Why block snap benefits?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democrat. However I said on day 1 of the shutdown Schumer went into this against an administration that breaks the law and he probably had no plan for an off ramp. He is not going to get what he wants for all the pain it is causing. That's the sad truth. You can't win a staring contest against people who want to destroy the government. It's time to vote to open the government.

COURTS have orderd the administration to pay SNAP and they are refuseng to do it. It has nothing tp do with the shut down. SNAP benefits were never cut off in a shut down before. Until this one.

Where exactly should the $8 billion come from?

The general fund is up and running. Tax money is still rolling in.

There is not legislation that specifically sets aside money for SNAP. There is no legal reason to withhold the funds. Everything from this admin is lies.

That isn’t how it works.

Just because taxes are being collected doesn’t mean the money can be spent at the executive’s discretion.

The money must be appropriated by Congress.

Otherwise there is nothing to stop the executive from spending money on whatever they feel is a priority. (Something you likely wouldn’t end up supporting.)

And then there's Trump, who just does whatever he wants because nobody stops him. He could pay SNAP if he wanted. But we all know what kind of guy he really is.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democrat. However I said on day 1 of the shutdown Schumer went into this against an administration that breaks the law and he probably had no plan for an off ramp. He is not going to get what he wants for all the pain it is causing. That's the sad truth. You can't win a staring contest against people who want to destroy the government. It's time to vote to open the government.

COURTS have orderd the administration to pay SNAP and they are refuseng to do it. It has nothing tp do with the shut down. SNAP benefits were never cut off in a shut down before. Until this one.

Where exactly should the $8 billion come from?

The general fund is up and running. Tax money is still rolling in.

There is not legislation that specifically sets aside money for SNAP. There is no legal reason to withhold the funds. Everything from this admin is lies.

That isn’t how it works.

Just because taxes are being collected doesn’t mean the money can be spent at the executive’s discretion.

The money must be appropriated by Congress.

Otherwise there is nothing to stop the executive from spending money on whatever they feel is a priority. (Something you likely wouldn’t end up supporting.)

And then there's Trump, who just does whatever he wants because nobody stops him. He could pay SNAP if he wanted. But we all know what kind of guy he really is.

+1. Republicans need to ask themselves how/why Trump was able to send $40 billion in American tax dollars in a failed attempt to prop up the currency in Argentina for his buddies there yet hasn’t prioritized paying poor Americans their food stamps.

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Anonymous wrote:I no longer understand anything that is happening. I used to think I had figured some of it out and knew some of the whys and hows -even if I disagreed - I could still figure out motives and reasoning.

None of this makes sense to me.

This doesn’t make sense because our government has reached a severe point of dysfunction. If this was a parliamentary system they would be calling a new election right now. It’s really bad.

And Trump would be booted out.

OUR only option is impeachment.

And the puppets the Republicans put in office won’t do their jobs (of honoring the Constitution). They literally have not reported to work for 8 weeks—though they are collecting paychecks.

The Democrats stand ready to negotiate. The Republicans won’t even show up in DC.

What’s there to negotiate?

Pay attention.
Schumer just made an offer to the Republicans.

Thune called it a nonstarter. Johnson won’t even let his caucus come to work.

That is one side trying to negotiate and the other stonewalling.

The House passed a bill to reopen the government. The Republican majority in the Senate is likewise happy to reopen the government.

It is the Democrat minority in the Senate that is blocking funding to the entire government because they want to demand changes they don’t have the votes for. What they are doing is fundamentally undemocratic.

If the majorities of the House and Senate give in to this type of tactic will the minority party shut down the entire government every time they want something they don’t have the votes for?

It seems the Republicans also don't have the votes for what they want. Why is your position that democrats must capitulate and not Republicans? Or better yet, compromise? Why is it undemocratic for Democrats to vote in a way that reflects the citizens that voted them in?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democrat. However I said on day 1 of the shutdown Schumer went into this against an administration that breaks the law and he probably had no plan for an off ramp. He is not going to get what he wants for all the pain it is causing. That's the sad truth. You can't win a staring contest against people who want to destroy the government. It's time to vote to open the government.

COURTS have orderd the administration to pay SNAP and they are refuseng to do it. It has nothing tp do with the shut down. SNAP benefits were never cut off in a shut down before. Until this one.

Where exactly should the $8 billion come from?

The general fund is up and running. Tax money is still rolling in.

There is not legislation that specifically sets aside money for SNAP. There is no legal reason to withhold the funds. Everything from this admin is lies.

That isn’t how it works.

Just because taxes are being collected doesn’t mean the money can be spent at the executive’s discretion.

The money must be appropriated by Congress.

Otherwise there is nothing to stop the executive from spending money on whatever they feel is a priority. (Something you likely wouldn’t end up supporting.)

And then there's Trump, who just does whatever he wants because nobody stops him. He could pay SNAP if he wanted. But we all know what kind of guy he really is.

+1. Republicans need to ask themselves how/why Trump was able to send $40 billion in American tax dollars in a failed attempt to prop up the currency in Argentina for his buddies there yet hasn’t prioritized paying poor Americans their food stamps.

I want red state voters voters to ask themselves this question. Red state users of SNAP should think long and hard about this. Imagine going to the SCOTUS to refuse to feed hungry Americans while giving $40 billion to another country that has universal healthcare. I want American cattle farmers to reflect on why he would prefer to import Argentinian beef that his own administration has said is infected with foot and mouth disease. American soy bean farmers reflect on that deal that their Argentinian counterparts just cut with China.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democrat. However I said on day 1 of the shutdown Schumer went into this against an administration that breaks the law and he probably had no plan for an off ramp. He is not going to get what he wants for all the pain it is causing. That's the sad truth. You can't win a staring contest against people who want to destroy the government. It's time to vote to open the government.

COURTS have orderd the administration to pay SNAP and they are refuseng to do it. It has nothing tp do with the shut down. SNAP benefits were never cut off in a shut down before. Until this one.

Where exactly should the $8 billion come from?

The general fund is up and running. Tax money is still rolling in.

There is not legislation that specifically sets aside money for SNAP. There is no legal reason to withhold the funds. Everything from this admin is lies.

That isn’t how it works.

Just because taxes are being collected doesn’t mean the money can be spent at the executive’s discretion.

The money must be appropriated by Congress.

Otherwise there is nothing to stop the executive from spending money on whatever they feel is a priority. (Something you likely wouldn’t end up supporting.)

And then there's Trump, who just does whatever he wants because nobody stops him. He could pay SNAP if he wanted. But we all know what kind of guy he really is.

+1. Republicans need to ask themselves how/why Trump was able to send $40 billion in American tax dollars in a failed attempt to prop up the currency in Argentina for his buddies there yet hasn’t prioritized paying poor Americans their food stamps.

I want red state voters voters to ask themselves this question. Red state users of SNAP should think long and hard about this. Imagine going to the SCOTUS to refuse to feed hungry Americans while giving $40 billion to another country that has universal healthcare. I want American cattle farmers to reflect on why he would prefer to import Argentinian beef that his own administration has said is infected with foot and mouth disease. American soy bean farmers reflect on that deal that their Argentinian counterparts just cut with China.

Based on the recent election shifts, I think that a lot of them are asking themselves that question (and others like it). However, we might be almost down to the masochist core of maga voters that can’t be swayed no matter how hard he steps on their necks.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democrat. However I said on day 1 of the shutdown Schumer went into this against an administration that breaks the law and he probably had no plan for an off ramp. He is not going to get what he wants for all the pain it is causing. That's the sad truth. You can't win a staring contest against people who want to destroy the government. It's time to vote to open the government.

COURTS have orderd the administration to pay SNAP and they are refuseng to do it. It has nothing tp do with the shut down. SNAP benefits were never cut off in a shut down before. Until this one.

Where exactly should the $8 billion come from?

The general fund is up and running. Tax money is still rolling in.

There is not legislation that specifically sets aside money for SNAP. There is no legal reason to withhold the funds. Everything from this admin is lies.

That isn’t how it works.

Just because taxes are being collected doesn’t mean the money can be spent at the executive’s discretion.

The money must be appropriated by Congress.

Otherwise there is nothing to stop the executive from spending money on whatever they feel is a priority. (Something you likely wouldn’t end up supporting.)

And then there's Trump, who just does whatever he wants because nobody stops him. He could pay SNAP if he wanted. But we all know what kind of guy he really is.

+1. Republicans need to ask themselves how/why Trump was able to send $40 billion in American tax dollars in a failed attempt to prop up the currency in Argentina for his buddies there yet hasn’t prioritized paying poor Americans their food stamps.

I want red state voters voters to ask themselves this question. Red state users of SNAP should think long and hard about this. Imagine going to the SCOTUS to refuse to feed hungry Americans while giving $40 billion to another country that has universal healthcare. I want American cattle farmers to reflect on why he would prefer to import Argentinian beef that his own administration has said is infected with foot and mouth disease. American soy bean farmers reflect on that deal that their Argentinian counterparts just cut with China.

Based on the recent election shifts, I think that a lot of them are asking themselves that question (and others like it). However, we might be almost down to the masochist core of maga voters that can’t be swayed no matter how hard he steps on their necks.

Listening to red state voters call into Washington Journal on CSPAN yesterday, I'm not so sure. Anecdotally they are hanging on tight and praying while their EBT cards remain empty.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democrat. However I said on day 1 of the shutdown Schumer went into this against an administration that breaks the law and he probably had no plan for an off ramp. He is not going to get what he wants for all the pain it is causing. That's the sad truth. You can't win a staring contest against people who want to destroy the government. It's time to vote to open the government.

COURTS have orderd the administration to pay SNAP and they are refuseng to do it. It has nothing tp do with the shut down. SNAP benefits were never cut off in a shut down before. Until this one.

Where exactly should the $8 billion come from?

The general fund is up and running. Tax money is still rolling in.

There is not legislation that specifically sets aside money for SNAP. There is no legal reason to withhold the funds. Everything from this admin is lies.

That isn’t how it works.

Just because taxes are being collected doesn’t mean the money can be spent at the executive’s discretion.

The money must be appropriated by Congress.

Otherwise there is nothing to stop the executive from spending money on whatever they feel is a priority. (Something you likely wouldn’t end up supporting.)

OK, show us the appropriations that cover Argentina please, as well as East Wing construction.

SNAP has actually been approved in law, unlike those two instances of, as you aptly put it, the executive spending money on whatever he feels is a priority.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump could give people their SNAP benefits. He is choosing not too. There is emergency funding. No president has ever denied this funding. He is doing this on purpose.

Not enough for the month of November.

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Because the money is gone. That’s why they made it easier for Trump to move money around. He stole it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democrat. However I said on day 1 of the shutdown Schumer went into this against an administration that breaks the law and he probably had no plan for an off ramp. He is not going to get what he wants for all the pain it is causing. That's the sad truth. You can't win a staring contest against people who want to destroy the government. It's time to vote to open the government.

COURTS have orderd the administration to pay SNAP and they are refuseng to do it. It has nothing tp do with the shut down. SNAP benefits were never cut off in a shut down before. Until this one.

Where exactly should the $8 billion come from?

The general fund is up and running. Tax money is still rolling in.

There is not legislation that specifically sets aside money for SNAP. There is no legal reason to withhold the funds. Everything from this admin is lies.

That isn’t how it works.

Just because taxes are being collected doesn’t mean the money can be spent at the executive’s discretion.

The money must be appropriated by Congress.

Otherwise there is nothing to stop the executive from spending money on whatever they feel is a priority. (Something you likely wouldn’t end up supporting.)

There is over $40 billion currently available to fund SNAP.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe you absolute morons are arguing about who “should” and “should not” receive SNAP while the billionaires are picking your pockets. Fools, all of you.

It’s because they run into the snap recipient on a regular basis.

The billionaire at best is a mythical creature that can give them money.

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Anonymous wrote:I no longer understand anything that is happening. I used to think I had figured some of it out and knew some of the whys and hows -even if I disagreed - I could still figure out motives and reasoning.

None of this makes sense to me.

This doesn’t make sense because our government has reached a severe point of dysfunction. If this was a parliamentary system they would be calling a new election right now. It’s really bad.

And Trump would be booted out.

OUR only option is impeachment.

And the puppets the Republicans put in office won’t do their jobs (of honoring the Constitution). They literally have not reported to work for 8 weeks—though they are collecting paychecks.

The Democrats stand ready to negotiate. The Republicans won’t even show up in DC.

What’s there to negotiate?

Pay attention.
Schumer just made an offer to the Republicans.

Thune called it a nonstarter. Johnson won’t even let his caucus come to work.

That is one side trying to negotiate and the other stonewalling.

The House passed a bill to reopen the government. The Republican majority in the Senate is likewise happy to reopen the government.

It is the Democrat minority in the Senate that is blocking funding to the entire government because they want to demand changes they don’t have the votes for. What they are doing is fundamentally undemocratic.

If the majorities of the House and Senate give in to this type of tactic will the minority party shut down the entire government every time they want something they don’t have the votes for?

Like super delegates in 2016 and lack of primary in 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democrat. However I said on day 1 of the shutdown Schumer went into this against an administration that breaks the law and he probably had no plan for an off ramp. He is not going to get what he wants for all the pain it is causing. That's the sad truth. You can't win a staring contest against people who want to destroy the government. It's time to vote to open the government.

COURTS have orderd the administration to pay SNAP and they are refuseng to do it. It has nothing tp do with the shut down. SNAP benefits were never cut off in a shut down before. Until this one.

Where exactly should the $8 billion come from?

The general fund is up and running. Tax money is still rolling in.

There is not legislation that specifically sets aside money for SNAP. There is no legal reason to withhold the funds. Everything from this admin is lies.

That isn’t how it works.

Just because taxes are being collected doesn’t mean the money can be spent at the executive’s discretion.

The money must be appropriated by Congress.

Otherwise there is nothing to stop the executive from spending money on whatever they feel is a priority. (Something you likely wouldn’t end up supporting.)

OK, show us the appropriations that cover Argentina please, as well as East Wing construction.

SNAP has actually been approved in law, unlike those two instances of, as you aptly put it, the executive spending money on whatever he feels is a priority.

What makes you think I support either?

Congress should assert its prerogatives across the board lest the executive continue to appropriate authority it shouldn’t have… but that is obviously impossible while Congress is paralyzed.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe you absolute morons are arguing about who “should” and “should not” receive SNAP while the billionaires are picking your pockets. Fools, all of you.

It’s because they run into the snap recipient on a regular basis.

The billionaire at best is a mythical creature that can give them money.

US born citizens are entitled to SNAP and should get it.

Not expecting both immigrants and billionaires to not rely on middle class to fund their lifestyles is reasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:I no longer understand anything that is happening. I used to think I had figured some of it out and knew some of the whys and hows -even if I disagreed - I could still figure out motives and reasoning.

None of this makes sense to me.

This doesn’t make sense because our government has reached a severe point of dysfunction. If this was a parliamentary system they would be calling a new election right now. It’s really bad.

And Trump would be booted out.

OUR only option is impeachment.

And the puppets the Republicans put in office won’t do their jobs (of honoring the Constitution). They literally have not reported to work for 8 weeks—though they are collecting paychecks.

The Democrats stand ready to negotiate. The Republicans won’t even show up in DC.

What’s there to negotiate?

Pay attention.
Schumer just made an offer to the Republicans.

Thune called it a nonstarter. Johnson won’t even let his caucus come to work.

That is one side trying to negotiate and the other stonewalling.

The House passed a bill to reopen the government. The Republican majority in the Senate is likewise happy to reopen the government.

It is the Democrat minority in the Senate that is blocking funding to the entire government because they want to demand changes they don’t have the votes for. What they are doing is fundamentally undemocratic.

If the majorities of the House and Senate give in to this type of tactic will the minority party shut down the entire government every time they want something they don’t have the votes for?

It seems the Republicans also don't have the votes for what they want. Why is your position that democrats must capitulate and not Republicans? Or better yet, compromise? Why is it undemocratic for Democrats to vote in a way that reflects the citizens that voted them in?

Because Democrats are keeping the government closed for reasons unrelated to the FY26 budget process. The Republicans voted 13 times to keep the government open during Biden’s term. Democrats have an amazing capacity to conflate issues.