Harvard slashing PhD programs + layoffs

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Anonymous wrote:So you want the American taxpayer to subsidize Harvard to import foreign talent and not educate/ train American Citizens for high paying jobs. Have more faith in your fellow citizens.

That awful foreign talent. Like Einstein and the like.

Not at all, but why not put focus on brilliant Americans?

Well, the most brilliant Americans will flee elsewhere. But you seem focused on being anti-foreign, so don't you worry, because the real foreign talent only moves to and contributes to societies that are free and hospitable to science. So they're probably not going to be knocking on US doors in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Harvard has billions upon billions in its endowment, yet it can't pay for its PhD candidates? Why is it so reliant on the American taxpayer?

Seriously??? Is this a serious question??

This post shows an astounding lack of critical thinking, logical thinking, and creative thinking.

This mentality is apparently prevalent in our country and is causing the unfortunate downfall of the U.S.

Some of you are acting as if Harvard is a god to whom we should bow down and send federal dollars, regardless of what they do.. It's not, and its administrators and leaders need to change their attitude.

This is crazy talk. The scientists want to do science, like treating cancer. The engineers want to be inventing new things. They have to justify every dollar they get in a grant through an extremely competitive proposal and review process, wherein they have to explain how the project would be a benefit. There is no "attitude" other than complete dismay at grant funding that had already been awarded being ripped away so they can't pay for supplies and equipment already ordered or pay their students and post docs.

The attitude you're hearing is all made up by the radical right who are doing their best to create a political foe out of science and engineering because they're too stupid to understand the research.

+1. If anything, the laser focus on Harvard is a success of right wing propaganda. Trump is cutting research funding across the board. All of the people saying "send it to the public universities!" are either uninformed or lying, because we were already funding research at public universities and that's being cut too.

It is seriously depressing how well these talking points work on people.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Harvard can come clean and self fund. Total disgrace. Ga Tech could do a better job and be more cost efective. Disperse the money to NC State, Purdue, Ohio State etc. Harvard margins and overhead way too high.

Trump is cutting funding for science research. Not redistributing it. Harvard’s webpage details the amazing science research they do and Trump is killing that. Shameful but just one of the many shameful things Trump does each day.

People also miss that Saudi Arabia, Dubai, China and other countries are giving large research grants to US labs to export the US scientific advantage to their country. My PhD science lab at a large state school got the majority of its funding from China and the Saudis. We also had a small amount of DARPA (US defense grants) but those came with tons of strings, paperwork and restrictions. NSF, NIH, and EPA funding was there, but also restricted. The foreign funding was far more useful and flexible for us to follow discoveries. For the foreign funds, our PI (a Nobel Prize recipient) had to spend a chunk of time every year teaching in their country and had to take students and post docs from their country to train them. But that was more manageable for him than writing a million grant request and reports for paltry amounts from US funding agencies.

The US needs to fund science or it will end up owned abroad with talented scientists working in antagonist countries. The middle eastern countries all know the oil is going to dry up someday and they are using that cash to buy themselves a spot as a scientific leader. And China plans to dominate the planet. It's huge a national security risk to kill US science and engineering funding in the way the Trump administration has done.

If the US has research funding, most of that foreign talent really does choose to stay in the US. We want those folks to stay. Many are brilliant. We literally won the atomic bomb race because of immigrants and many other discoveries come from foreign born, US-developed talent.

The US is a failed state. I'd rather have scientists go to countries that believe in science, than stay here.

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$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

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Focus on training US citizens and giving rural and city kids a chance. The US imports way too much foreign talent.

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

The research itself may not be political, but they use the freed up cash to political stuff and become entitled to it. So now they need to lose the entitlement and fund their own research.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

And again... If you don't like the science research being conducted at Harvard, then send your kid to a different institution to learn about science.

If you want to eat barbecued ribs, don't go to a pizzeria, go to a barbecued rib place. You're walking into the barbecued rib place and trying to force them to make pizza, which is a waste of your time and energy and you're not even going to get good pizza.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

The research itself may not be political, but they use the freed up cash to political stuff and become entitled to it. So now they need to lose the entitlement and fund their own research.

It's not their own research. It belongs to the funders. And lots of other institutions do taxpayer-funded research.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

The research itself may not be political, but they use the freed up cash to political stuff and become entitled to it. So now they need to lose the entitlement and fund their own research.

It's not their own research. It belongs to the funders. And lots of other institutions do taxpayer-funded research.

Then what are you complaining about? The research owners want to stop hiring them to do this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

The research itself may not be political, but they use the freed up cash to political stuff and become entitled to it. So now they need to lose the entitlement and fund their own research.

It's not their own research. It belongs to the funders. And lots of other institutions do taxpayer-funded research.

The decision was made decades ago to have various academic institutions perform research for the government, rather than building more and more National labs.

As many have mentioned, NSF, NIH, DOD, National labs etc keep tight reins on the research. There is collaboration with the National labs but this is a way to expand and multiply scientific research.

Is that what you would prefer? More government labs? Or just let our leading position go in scientific research?

Science is an engine not an anchor and if we don’t feed it with PhD candidates it will slowly grind to a halt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

The research itself may not be political, but they use the freed up cash to political stuff and become entitled to it. So now they need to lose the entitlement and fund their own research.

It's not their own research. It belongs to the funders. And lots of other institutions do taxpayer-funded research.

The decision was made decades ago to have various academic institutions perform research for the government, rather than building more and more National labs.

As many have mentioned, NSF, NIH, DOD, National labs etc keep tight reins on the research. There is collaboration with the National labs but this is a way to expand and multiply scientific research.

Is that what you would prefer? More government labs? Or just let our leading position go in scientific research?

Science is an engine not an anchor and if we don’t feed it with PhD candidates it will slowly grind to a halt.

What if your contractor/employee has been plotting to go against your very own interest or promoting something you believe is a total BS? Cut the ties of course.

[Anonymous]

Conservatives 100% believe in DEI. Just look up EPSCoR.