Harvard slashing PhD programs + layoffs

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard should live Within its means. Old fashioned word not familiar in Cambridge budget. Endowment is a Pool of thousands of restrictred funds but that frees up money for other areas that are not fully funded.

Science research grants are not charity. Grant money is exchanged for results.

But Harvard can free up cash to do propaganda and ideology stuff because the government pays for its research component. How is that hard to understand?

You need to read more than right wing propaganda.

And you need to quit thinking Harvard is the be all. It's not.

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

The research itself may not be political, but they use the freed up cash to political stuff and become entitled to it. So now they need to lose the entitlement and fund their own research.

It's not their own research. It belongs to the funders. And lots of other institutions do taxpayer-funded research.

The decision was made decades ago to have various academic institutions perform research for the government, rather than building more and more National labs.

As many have mentioned, NSF, NIH, DOD, National labs etc keep tight reins on the research. There is collaboration with the National labs but this is a way to expand and multiply scientific research.

Is that what you would prefer? More government labs? Or just let our leading position go in scientific research?

Science is an engine not an anchor and if we don’t feed it with PhD candidates it will slowly grind to a halt.

What if your contractor/employee has been plotting to go against your very own interest or promoting something you believe is a total BS? Cut the ties of course.

I see. This is where we are. I’m very sad for our country and for friends and family who were hopeful for new cures and treatments for various diseases like cancer. Major setback.

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Anonymous wrote:stay apolitical and non-racist

Assuming facts not in evidence.

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This kind of reminds me of the GOP efforts to end the Affordable Care Act. There is no replacement plan for scientific research either. It just ends.

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Anonymous wrote:stay apolitical and non-racist

Assuming facts not in evidence.

Only braindead libs don’t see facts. Cry me a river cuz 🤷

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard should live Within its means. Old fashioned word not familiar in Cambridge budget. Endowment is a Pool of thousands of restrictred funds but that frees up money for other areas that are not fully funded.

Science research grants are not charity. Grant money is exchanged for results.

But Harvard can free up cash to do propaganda and ideology stuff because the government pays for its research component. How is that hard to understand?

You need to read more than right wing propaganda.

And you need to quit thinking Harvard is the be all. It's not.

That's right. You really need to stop fixating on Harvard, because the administration's attack on science is hitting all over, including both public and private universities in the midwest, the south, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

When the federal government is cutting just a little bit of fat and it is sending your institution into a financial crisis, maybe you relied too much on the federal government teat...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

When the federal government is cutting just a little bit of fat and it is sending your institution into a financial crisis, maybe you relied too much on the federal government teat...

This is way more than cutting a little bit of fat. Cutting down through fat, through muscle to the bone and into the bone here.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard should live Within its means. Old fashioned word not familiar in Cambridge budget. Endowment is a Pool of thousands of restrictred funds but that frees up money for other areas that are not fully funded.

Science research grants are not charity. Grant money is exchanged for results.

But Harvard can free up cash to do propaganda and ideology stuff because the government pays for its research component. How is that hard to understand?

You need to read more than right wing propaganda.

And you need to quit thinking Harvard is the be all. It's not.

That's right. You really need to stop fixating on Harvard, because the administration's attack on science is hitting all over, including both public and private universities in the midwest, the south, etc.

This. Not sure why that poster has missed this crucial point. It’s not just about about Harvard. It’s about all science research that is being drastically cut. Not moved to other institutions.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard should live Within its means. Old fashioned word not familiar in Cambridge budget. Endowment is a Pool of thousands of restrictred funds but that frees up money for other areas that are not fully funded.

Science research grants are not charity. Grant money is exchanged for results.

But Harvard can free up cash to do propaganda and ideology stuff because the government pays for its research component. How is that hard to understand?

You need to read more than right wing propaganda.

And you need to quit thinking Harvard is the be all. It's not.

That's right. You really need to stop fixating on Harvard, because the administration's attack on science is hitting all over, including both public and private universities in the midwest, the south, etc.

This. Not sure why that poster has missed this crucial point. It’s not just about about Harvard. It’s about all science research that is being drastically cut. Not moved to other institutions.

I think it’s because scientists are by nature pretty introverted and not used to the type of PR needed to make Americans aware of what’s going on. Comms is not the strong point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

When the federal government is cutting just a little bit of fat and it is sending your institution into a financial crisis, maybe you relied too much on the federal government teat...

The fact that we send into the tens of billions of dollars to one foreign nation every year should be a much, much, much bigger problem and concern for citizens who claim to be “America First”.

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion endowment, enough.

^^^ doesn't know how endowments work

LOL just sit on the endowment and get federal money.

I am so freaking tired of this. Let’s say you were a millionaire (like Sam Walton). And I wanted to get some groceries from you because I wanted to feed my family. Should you just give me my groceries because I am so wealthy? Or do you think it’s reasonable for me to say, come to my store and buy what you want. This is how research works too. We (American people) decide research is important and a public good. We look for the best places to get it. The answer is universities (Harvard and Georgia Tech). We pay for it. We don’t get to say “use your own money to pay for this thing that I want”.

Great. Send more money to Ga Tech.

If they compete and are the best, sure. And they often are which is why Ga Tech so much federal funding.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly uplift our own citizens. How many American students get grants from China and India to study in their universities in science stem field. Probably could fit in a VW SUV because they won’t allow US cars into their closed markets. Enough!

I know for a fact China offers scholarships to Americans and other foreign nationals to study in their top universities.

As a scientist, I have been approached by China. I reported to my security manager as we have been trained to do. Have you heard of the 1000 talents program? It is entirely about poaching scientists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$57 billion says it all and don’t pay property taxes. Harvard’s got a great gig.

How does destroying Harvard help anyone? And the funding is cut across the board not just from Harvard.

Asking a federal funded institution to stay apolitical and non-racist is NOT destroying them!!!

It is not a federally funded institution. institutions compete for research grants and are awarded research grants based on the science, not based on some political ideology you're trying to impose. Or at least that's the way it should be. When you remove that, it is destructive.

The research itself may not be political, but they use the freed up cash to political stuff and become entitled to it. So now they need to lose the entitlement and fund their own research.

Ah so you are fine with the univ of Florida (say) being funded but not Harvard. Even if the UF prof is producing stuff at a lower quality level than the Harvard prof? You would be ok with your tax dollars undergoing some sort of political litmus test before you decide who to award? For the record, the UF professor often has a better proposal than the Harvard prof and is funded. But right now they win on merit and not some weird political scheme.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard should live Within its means. Old fashioned word not familiar in Cambridge budget. Endowment is a Pool of thousands of restrictred funds but that frees up money for other areas that are not fully funded.

Science research grants are not charity. Grant money is exchanged for results.

But Harvard can free up cash to do propaganda and ideology stuff because the government pays for its research component. How is that hard to understand?

You need to read more than right wing propaganda.

And you need to quit thinking Harvard is the be all. It's not.

That's right. You really need to stop fixating on Harvard, because the administration's attack on science is hitting all over, including both public and private universities in the midwest, the south, etc.

This. Not sure why that poster has missed this crucial point. It’s not just about about Harvard. It’s about all science research that is being drastically cut. Not moved to other institutions.

I think it’s because scientists are by nature pretty introverted and not used to the type of PR needed to make Americans aware of what’s going on. Comms is not the strong point.

Not only is comms not the strong point, but science communication can ruin your career. Many scientists don’t take science communication seriously and generally people are asked not to engage in it until they have tenure. It’s seen as a distraction from research, sadly.