Why does cigar smoking seem way more socially acceptable than cigarette smoking

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

It's not really inhaling though. Let's face it, you're just pissed the men are out on the patio enjoying their cigars and you're left out . Maybe you'll even live a year or two longer, congrats.

Let's face it, you're a total imbecile. No one, and I mean no one is jealous of your disgusting habit. Go poison yourself all you want.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

Just getting angry that you're been proven wrong many times over.

Sure, go smoke up. As much as you can and as fast as you can. We will all be better off without you.

May everyone you pass by today blow smoke in your general direction. You will have the day you deserve.

No, smarter people than you have outlawed it a long time ago. I'll be just fine. You, however.....

I bet you smoke around your kids too, you POS.

Smoking a cigar is outlawed? Where do you live?

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

Just getting angry that you're been proven wrong many times over.

Sure, go smoke up. As much as you can and as fast as you can. We will all be better off without you.

May everyone you pass by today blow smoke in your general direction. You will have the day you deserve.

No, smarter people than you have outlawed it a long time ago. I'll be just fine. You, however.....

I bet you smoke around your kids too, you POS.

Smoking a cigar is outlawed? Where do you live?

It is in every space that I choose to spend time. Every restaurant, every office, you get the gist...

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

It's not really inhaling though. Let's face it, you're just pissed the men are out on the patio enjoying their cigars and you're left out . Maybe you'll even live a year or two longer, congrats.

Let's face it, you're a total imbecile. No one, and I mean no one is jealous of your disgusting habit. Go poison yourself all you want.

Thanks, I will. You do sound jealous though

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

Just getting angry that you're been proven wrong many times over.

Sure, go smoke up. As much as you can and as fast as you can. We will all be better off without you.

May everyone you pass by today blow smoke in your general direction. You will have the day you deserve.

No, smarter people than you have outlawed it a long time ago. I'll be just fine. You, however.....

I bet you smoke around your kids too, you POS.

Smoking a cigar is outlawed? Where do you live?

It is in every space that I choose to spend time. Every restaurant, every office, you get the gist...

The smell of cigar smoke offends some people. I get that. Women or wimpy men like the OP. But they're not going to live any longer for having avoided cigars.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

It's not really inhaling though. Let's face it, you're just pissed the men are out on the patio enjoying their cigars and you're left out . Maybe you'll even live a year or two longer, congrats.

Let's face it, you're a total imbecile. No one, and I mean no one is jealous of your disgusting habit. Go poison yourself all you want.

Thanks, I will. You do sound jealous though

Whatever you need to tell yourself, dear.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

Just getting angry that you're been proven wrong many times over.

Sure, go smoke up. As much as you can and as fast as you can. We will all be better off without you.

May everyone you pass by today blow smoke in your general direction. You will have the day you deserve.

No, smarter people than you have outlawed it a long time ago. I'll be just fine. You, however.....

I bet you smoke around your kids too, you POS.

Smoking a cigar is outlawed? Where do you live?

It is in every space that I choose to spend time. Every restaurant, every office, you get the gist...

So you don't spend any time outdoors? Not very good for your health, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

Just getting angry that you're been proven wrong many times over.

Sure, go smoke up. As much as you can and as fast as you can. We will all be better off without you.

May everyone you pass by today blow smoke in your general direction. You will have the day you deserve.

No, smarter people than you have outlawed it a long time ago. I'll be just fine. You, however.....

I bet you smoke around your kids too, you POS.

Smoking a cigar is outlawed? Where do you live?

It is in every space that I choose to spend time. Every restaurant, every office, you get the gist...

The smell of cigar smoke offends some people. I get that. Women or wimpy men like the OP. But they're not going to live any longer for having avoided cigars.

hahahahaha maybe if I get hit by a car first.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

Just getting angry that you're been proven wrong many times over.

Sure, go smoke up. As much as you can and as fast as you can. We will all be better off without you.

May everyone you pass by today blow smoke in your general direction. You will have the day you deserve.

No, smarter people than you have outlawed it a long time ago. I'll be just fine. You, however.....

I bet you smoke around your kids too, you POS.

Smoking a cigar is outlawed? Where do you live?

It is in every space that I choose to spend time. Every restaurant, every office, you get the gist...

The smell of cigar smoke offends some people. I get that. Women or wimpy men like the OP. But they're not going to live any longer for having avoided cigars.

Cigars helped George Burns live to 100.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

Just getting angry that you're been proven wrong many times over.

Sure, go smoke up. As much as you can and as fast as you can. We will all be better off without you.

May everyone you pass by today blow smoke in your general direction. You will have the day you deserve.

No, smarter people than you have outlawed it a long time ago. I'll be just fine. You, however.....

I bet you smoke around your kids too, you POS.

Smoking a cigar is outlawed? Where do you live?

It is in every space that I choose to spend time. Every restaurant, every office, you get the gist...

So you don't spend any time outdoors? Not very good for your health, PP.

Not around smokers. You're trying way too hard dude.

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Dumb thead

Winston Churchill lived to 90 and smoked cigars constantly all his life. One was even named after him
Fidel Castro live to be 90. He smoked Cuban cigars daily

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing.

In the first place, there is a clear health difference between smoking 3 versus 15 cigarettes a day. In general, doctors measure cigarette usage by the 20 pack-year metric standard, which is equivalent to a pack a day over 20 years or the equivalent, which can half a pack a day over 40 years and so forth. It is when you have had a 20 pack year history that they recommend screening for cancer. Plenty of smokers never smoked a pack a day or even half a pack a day. It's a pretty well studied field.

Second, the casual cigar smokers aren't inhaling. They just puff and exhale. Cigars aren't meant to be smoked like cigarettes. Do some still inhale? Absolutely. But those young men puffing on cigars probably aren't.

I don't like either cigars or cigarettes but people have become extremists about them. The occasional casual usage is no big deal.

I love how you claim to be so knowledgeable and then post ignorant stuff like this.

Did you even bother looking up the pack day metric used by doctors for screening smokers, current or former? Somehow I don't think so. Because it wouldn't fit the narrative you are somehow desperate to believe, that somehow a cigar or a cigarette is going to doom you forever to cancer.

Just like there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional glass of wine and being a raging alcoholic, there is a massive difference between enjoying the occasional cigar or cigarette and having a three pack a day habit. You seem to have trouble grasping this.

Prove that an occasional cigarette or cigar will not doom you to cancer. You can't. There is no study that would confirm that.

Prove to us that even occasional smoking (in moderation) is approved or okayed by any health professional. You're so desperate to smoke that you can't see straight.

People believe what they want to believe in order to soothe their fears. You're exhibit number 1.

You can't prove one cigar does any permanent damage so what different does it make? Your mental health seems to be taking a hit by continuing to argue with strangers but you don't seem to care much about that. Why should others care about a lone cigar?

Awww, so typical, when you have nothing left in your arsenal, resort to personal insults.

We CAN prove that smoking causes cancer, you absolute imbecile. We have been able to prove that for decades. So much so, they put it on every pack of cigarettes. Cigar smoking is smoking!!!! It's tobacco. You smoke it. I'm sure you think that your expensive cigar is no big deal because you're an absolute dipshit. See, we can both throw out insults.

Just getting angry that you're been proven wrong many times over.

Sure, go smoke up. As much as you can and as fast as you can. We will all be better off without you.

May everyone you pass by today blow smoke in your general direction. You will have the day you deserve.

No, smarter people than you have outlawed it a long time ago. I'll be just fine. You, however.....

I bet you smoke around your kids too, you POS.

Smoking a cigar is outlawed? Where do you live?

It is in every space that I choose to spend time. Every restaurant, every office, you get the gist...

The smell of cigar smoke offends some people. I get that. Women or wimpy men like the OP. But they're not going to live any longer for having avoided cigars.

Cigars helped George Burns live to 100.

Good point. I saw his interview on Johnny Carson where he said he had more than 10 a day

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Being a cigarette smoke suggests a lack of self control in a way that being a cigar smoker does not.

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Winston Churchill lived to 90 and smoked cigars constantly all his life. One was even named after him
Fidel Castro live to be 90. He smoked Cuban cigars daily

You've hereby lost the right to call anyting dumb, ever.

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Anonymous wrote:Dumb thead

Winston Churchill lived to 90 and smoked cigars constantly all his life. One was even named after him
Fidel Castro live to be 90. He smoked Cuban cigars daily

You've hereby lost the right to call anyting dumb, ever.

it's really dumb to call cigar smoking "poison." Was that you?