Why does cigar smoking seem way more socially acceptable than cigarette smoking

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

DP. None of that actually addresses whether or not you get exposed to less of the harmful substances by smoking the occasional cigar vs daily cigarette usage. That doesn't address the effect of the dosage at all, which obviously matters.

This tells me you didn't actually read the articles, so there is not sense in going back and forth.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

I don't think you know how to read. It clearly says that cigar smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking. Quantities do not matter. I'm not sure why you're confused, honestly.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

I don't think you know how to read. It clearly says that cigar smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking. Quantities do not matter. I'm not sure why you're confused, honestly.

Nobody said one was safer. And it discusses usage, if you bothered to read. Heavy or regular usage. What is heavy or regular cigar smoking? Why don't you tell us?

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

I don't think you know how to read. It clearly says that cigar smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking. Quantities do not matter. I'm not sure why you're confused, honestly.

Nobody said one was safer. And it discusses usage, if you bothered to read. Heavy or regular usage. What is heavy or regular cigar smoking? Why don't you tell us?

Again, you did! You can try to backtrack now, but you clearly seemed to think that smoking cigarettes regularly is less safe than smoking an occasional cigar. It's just not true.

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/low-intensity-smoking-risk

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

DP. None of that actually addresses whether or not you get exposed to less of the harmful substances by smoking the occasional cigar vs daily cigarette usage. That doesn't address the effect of the dosage at all, which obviously matters.

This tells me you didn't actually read the articles, so there is not sense in going back and forth.

I read them. You're just not intelligent enough the question being asked I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

DP. None of that actually addresses whether or not you get exposed to less of the harmful substances by smoking the occasional cigar vs daily cigarette usage. That doesn't address the effect of the dosage at all, which obviously matters.

This tells me you didn't actually read the articles, so there is not sense in going back and forth.

I read them. You're just not intelligent enough the question being asked I guess.

sure https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/low-intensity-smoking-risk

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

I don't think you know how to read. It clearly says that cigar smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking. Quantities do not matter. I'm not sure why you're confused, honestly.

Nobody said one was safer. And it discusses usage, if you bothered to read. Heavy or regular usage. What is heavy or regular cigar smoking? Why don't you tell us?

Again, you did! You can try to backtrack now, but you clearly seemed to think that smoking cigarettes regularly is less safe than smoking an occasional cigar. It's just not true.

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/low-intensity-smoking-risk

"People who consistently smoked an average of less than one cigarette per day over their lifetimes had a 64 percent higher risk of earlier death than never smokers, and those who smoked between one and 10 cigarettes a day had an 87 percent higher risk of earlier death than never smokers,"

That shows that smoking cigarettes infrequently is safer than smoking them frequently. The question then is whether or not cigars are different enough that smoking them infrequently is as unsafe as smoking cigarettes regularly.

NP.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

I don't think you know how to read. It clearly says that cigar smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking. Quantities do not matter. I'm not sure why you're confused, honestly.

Nobody said one was safer. And it discusses usage, if you bothered to read. Heavy or regular usage. What is heavy or regular cigar smoking? Why don't you tell us?

Again, you did! You can try to backtrack now, but you clearly seemed to think that smoking cigarettes regularly is less safe than smoking an occasional cigar. It's just not true.

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/low-intensity-smoking-risk

Realize that there is more than 1 poster here. And you're still not making sense. Of course never smoking is best but the PP's point still hasn't been refuted by you. We're comparing chronic smokers to occasional cigar smokers. You want to just argue that all smoking is bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

I don't think you know how to read. It clearly says that cigar smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking. Quantities do not matter. I'm not sure why you're confused, honestly.

Nobody said one was safer. And it discusses usage, if you bothered to read. Heavy or regular usage. What is heavy or regular cigar smoking? Why don't you tell us?

Again, you did! You can try to backtrack now, but you clearly seemed to think that smoking cigarettes regularly is less safe than smoking an occasional cigar. It's just not true.

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/low-intensity-smoking-risk

Realize that there is more than 1 poster here. And you're still not making sense. Of course never smoking is best but the PP's point still hasn't been refuted by you. We're comparing chronic smokers to occasional cigar smokers. You want to just argue that all smoking is bad.

Because it is. You can try to spin it a 100 ways to Sunday, but the evidence is clear. It's ok, I know drinking is bad for me, but I still like it and do it. Smoke your nasty cigars, but just know you're not any safer than a person sucking on cigarettes. And don't even get me started on the secondhand smoke you're creating.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

I don't think you know how to read. It clearly says that cigar smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking. Quantities do not matter. I'm not sure why you're confused, honestly.

Nobody said one was safer. And it discusses usage, if you bothered to read. Heavy or regular usage. What is heavy or regular cigar smoking? Why don't you tell us?

Again, you did! You can try to backtrack now, but you clearly seemed to think that smoking cigarettes regularly is less safe than smoking an occasional cigar. It's just not true.

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/low-intensity-smoking-risk

NP. In your link, the *lowest* level of smoking they studied was daily cigarette smoking. I’m sure even you understand that the occasional cigar, let’s say once a month or less often, is not going to cause the same damage as daily smoking of either cigarettes or cigars.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

I don't think you know how to read. It clearly says that cigar smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking. Quantities do not matter. I'm not sure why you're confused, honestly.

Nobody said one was safer. And it discusses usage, if you bothered to read. Heavy or regular usage. What is heavy or regular cigar smoking? Why don't you tell us?

Again, you did! You can try to backtrack now, but you clearly seemed to think that smoking cigarettes regularly is less safe than smoking an occasional cigar. It's just not true.

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/low-intensity-smoking-risk

NP. In your link, the *lowest* level of smoking they studied was daily cigarette smoking. I’m sure even you understand that the occasional cigar, let’s say once a month or less often, is not going to cause the same damage as daily smoking of either cigarettes or cigars.

OK please post a study that confirms what you said.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's not very frequent. Cigarette smokers smoke a pack a day, all throughout the day.

Cigar smokers may have 1 cigar every 2 weeks.

Health wise, it's about the same, though. Cigar smokers are just kidding themselves.

Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit.

Here you go. Not safer at all.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/expert-answers/cigar-smoking/faq-20057787

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/cigars.html#:~:text=Fact,1

This is a 1:1 comparison. It says the more cigars the higher the risk. We're talking about an occasional cigar, not smoking a pack a days worth of cigars.

No, it's not, because that would be impossible to do. No one smokes 10-20 cigars per day. It is to inform people like you who fool themselves into thinking that just because you don't smoke a cigar every day, it's safer than cigarettes. There is also virtually no difference between those who smoke 3 cigarettes per day vs. those who smoke 15.

Then why don't you find a study that says what you want it to say instead of the one you posted? Nobody but you said it was "safer" so not even sure what point you're making.

Really? Could have fooled me with this statement, "Is it though? I would seem that an occasional cigar is not the same as a pack a day habit."

You article does not say an occasional cigar = a pack a day.

I don't think you know how to read. It clearly says that cigar smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking. Quantities do not matter. I'm not sure why you're confused, honestly.

Nobody said one was safer. And it discusses usage, if you bothered to read. Heavy or regular usage. What is heavy or regular cigar smoking? Why don't you tell us?

Again, you did! You can try to backtrack now, but you clearly seemed to think that smoking cigarettes regularly is less safe than smoking an occasional cigar. It's just not true.

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/low-intensity-smoking-risk

Realize that there is more than 1 poster here. And you're still not making sense. Of course never smoking is best but the PP's point still hasn't been refuted by you. We're comparing chronic smokers to occasional cigar smokers. You want to just argue that all smoking is bad.

Because it is. You can try to spin it a 100 ways to Sunday, but the evidence is clear. It's ok, I know drinking is bad for me, but I still like it and do it. Smoke your nasty cigars, but just know you're not any safer than a person sucking on cigarettes. And don't even get me started on the secondhand smoke you're creating.

Ok. You said safe, nobody else did and you're arguing with yourself at this point. Your own article that you don't bother to read again states "The health effects of consistent low-intensity smoking, however, have not been well studied and many smokers believe that low-intensity smoking does not affect their health." low intensity is 10 or fewer a day. Still nothing approaching an occasional cigar.