UVA out of top 25

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The rankings will change a lot next year. The graduate school has been decimated by cuts in research funding, and there is no reliable data this year. So USNR decided to use last year’s graduate school data. That is why the rankings didn’t change much this year. But next year, research universities are likely to be affected by the rankings unless things turn around.

It will hurt publics the most.

Or USWNR could change their methodology to reduce the weight on graduate studies. The weight on Pell grant is way too high. Hopefully, they will adjust their methodology to a more relevant one .

[Anonymous]

The biggest drawback for UVa is its location. Engineering, STEM, Econ etc under grads and even MBAs and Law Students really have to reach out companies in NY, Boston, Bay Area to get job - and these companies have access to grads from higher ranked schools.

[Anonymous]

UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The biggest drawback for UVa is its location. Engineering, STEM, Econ etc under grads and even MBAs and Law Students really have to reach out companies in NY, Boston, Bay Area to get job - and these companies have access to grads from higher ranked schools.

As opposed to Michigan, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Duke, Dartmouth, etc?

Stupid take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? USNWR's methodology is suss and data is often inflated by schools.

Why are we looking to a magazine to tell us what to think?

UVA is a great school whether it's #23 or #26 on a silly ranking system.

Think for yourself people!

TBF, UVA has a serious antisemitism problem it refuses to address.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

UCLA and Berkeley (and other UCs) rose recently with the recent change in metodology. They have a relatively high percentage of Pell recipient (California has one of the highest poverty rates) and very high research. These replaced criteria where the UCs lagged like student faculty ratios and alumni giving rates. They have relatively high faculty salaries, but if you factor that the cost of living in California is 150% of the national average it is not as good, particularly for younger faculty.

[Anonymous]

Here is what I don't get about the fixation on the exact rank of any school (I do understand why people care about say top 100, 200, state flagship, Ivy+).
Say your senior has been accepted to a school ranked 52nd and one tied at 49th, do they and you really just pick the one ranked 49th so you can say T50? What happens if while they are in college it drops to 51st? Does DC transfer??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? USNWR's methodology is suss and data is often inflated by schools.

Why are we looking to a magazine to tell us what to think?

UVA is a great school whether it's #23 or #26 on a silly ranking system.

Think for yourself people!

TBF, UVA has a serious antisemitism problem it refuses to address.

You again. Also not true. It’s sad how much real estate UVA takes up in people’s minds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? USNWR's methodology is suss and data is often inflated by schools.

Why are we looking to a magazine to tell us what to think?

UVA is a great school whether it's #23 or #26 on a silly ranking system.

Think for yourself people!

TBF, UVA has a serious antisemitism problem it refuses to address.

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Not true, the Office of Civil Rights, US Department of Education closed its investigation last week.

You again. Also not true. It’s sad how much real estate UVA takes up in people’s minds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? USNWR's methodology is suss and data is often inflated by schools.

Why are we looking to a magazine to tell us what to think?

UVA is a great school whether it's #23 or #26 on a silly ranking system.

Think for yourself people!

TBF, UVA has a serious antisemitism problem it refuses to address.

No, it doesn’t. In fact, Acting President Paul Mahoney announced that the investigations into antisemitism brought by DOJ and the Office of Civil Rights, US Department of Education were both closed on September 12. https://president.virginia.edu/remarks-interim-uva-president-paul-mahoney-broad-of-visitors-meeting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

UCLA and Berkeley (and other UCs) rose recently with the recent change in metodology. They have a relatively high percentage of Pell recipient (California has one of the highest poverty rates) and very high research. These replaced criteria where the UCs lagged like student faculty ratios and alumni giving rates. They have relatively high faculty salaries, but if you factor that the cost of living in California is 150% of the national average it is not as good, particularly for younger faculty.

Sorry DP, but the UCs are just better. California has a much bigger pool of qualified in-state applicants (including some who also qualify for Pell), and there is proximity to the most innovative companies on the planet. UVA is a great state school, but Berkeley and UCLA are next level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

UCLA and Berkeley (and other UCs) rose recently with the recent change in metodology. They have a relatively high percentage of Pell recipient (California has one of the highest poverty rates) and very high research. These replaced criteria where the UCs lagged like student faculty ratios and alumni giving rates. They have relatively high faculty salaries, but if you factor that the cost of living in California is 150% of the national average it is not as good, particularly for younger faculty.

Sorry DP, but the UCs are just better. California has a much bigger pool of qualified in-state applicants (including some who also qualify for Pell), and there is proximity to the most innovative companies on the planet. UVA is a great state school, but Berkeley and UCLA are next level.

It depends on how you define “next level.” To me that means it’s worth paying OOS tuition to go to one instead of in state to go to the other. And that’s definitely not the case here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is what I don't get about the fixation on the exact rank of any school (I do understand why people care about say top 100, 200, state flagship, Ivy+).
Say your senior has been accepted to a school ranked 52nd and one tied at 49th, do they and you really just pick the one ranked 49th so you can say T50? What happens if while they are in college it drops to 51st? Does DC transfer??

My kid turned down a 6 and a 7 for one on the teens.

I agree. Dolts go by highest magazine ranking only.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

UCLA and Berkeley (and other UCs) rose recently with the recent change in metodology. They have a relatively high percentage of Pell recipient (California has one of the highest poverty rates) and very high research. These replaced criteria where the UCs lagged like student faculty ratios and alumni giving rates. They have relatively high faculty salaries, but if you factor that the cost of living in California is 150% of the national average it is not as good, particularly for younger faculty.

Sorry DP, but the UCs are just better. California has a much bigger pool of qualified in-state applicants (including some who also qualify for Pell), and there is proximity to the most innovative companies on the planet. UVA is a great state school, but Berkeley and UCLA are next level.

As a parent with a kid at UCLA and one at UVA I would disagree completely. UVA is the better undergraduate experience and school hands down. UCLA has better weather.