UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest drawback for UVa is its location. Engineering, STEM, Econ etc under grads and even MBAs and Law Students really have to reach out companies in NY, Boston, Bay Area to get job - and these companies have access to grads from higher ranked schools.

UVA Law grads have no problem getting jobs. Law firms come to C’ville in droves. It’s 2 hours from DC, plus firms fly in from all over.

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Anonymous wrote:UVa boosters made a thread to bash Emory, WashU and other schools yesterday. Calling them pseudo prestigious. Funny how things work out.

Yep

So let me get this straight: that US News moves UVA out of the 3 way tie for 24th and now says it’s 26th makes all the difference?

The people here are so stupid.

[Anonymous]

Question I have is how low will UVA fall? I can see into the 40s as likely. Some say lower than that given the data and trend.

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Anonymous wrote:Question I have is how low will UVA fall? I can see into the 40s as likely. Some say lower than that given the data and trend.

Yall are annoying with this. What 14 schools currently ranked below UVa could you make the argument are better than UVa? A school with a 14B endowment?

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Look at UVA world rankings. All that needs to be said.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

UCLA and Berkeley (and other UCs) rose recently with the recent change in metodology. They have a relatively high percentage of Pell recipient (California has one of the highest poverty rates) and very high research. These replaced criteria where the UCs lagged like student faculty ratios and alumni giving rates. They have relatively high faculty salaries, but if you factor that the cost of living in California is 150% of the national average it is not as good, particularly for younger faculty.

Sorry DP, but the UCs are just better. California has a much bigger pool of qualified in-state applicants (including some who also qualify for Pell), and there is proximity to the most innovative companies on the planet. UVA is a great state school, but Berkeley and UCLA are next level.

As a parent with a kid at UCLA and one at UVA I would disagree completely. UVA is the better undergraduate experience and school hands down. UCLA has better weather.

To each his own. My kid is having a fantastic experience at UCLA.

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No real change and still the 3rd best school in VA.

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Anonymous wrote:No real change and still the 3rd best school in VA.

After who?

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Anonymous wrote:No real change and still the 3rd best school in VA.

After who?

VT

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Anonymous wrote:Look at UVA world rankings. All that needs to be said.

Only important if you want to work overseas, which the majority of Americans don't.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at UVA world rankings. All that needs to be said.

Who cares about world rankings. Good Lord.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:No real change and still the 3rd best school in VA.

After who?

VT

PP said third. I am assuming W&M.

Either way to premise is absurd. Most VT students would not even be admitted to UVA or WM.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

UCLA and Berkeley (and other UCs) rose recently with the recent change in metodology. They have a relatively high percentage of Pell recipient (California has one of the highest poverty rates) and very high research. These replaced criteria where the UCs lagged like student faculty ratios and alumni giving rates. They have relatively high faculty salaries, but if you factor that the cost of living in California is 150% of the national average it is not as good, particularly for younger faculty.

Sorry DP, but the UCs are just better. [b]California has a much bigger pool of qualified in-state applicants (including some who also qualify for Pell), and there is proximity to the most innovative companies on the planet. UVA is a great state school, but Berkeley and UCLA are next level.

But it is almost impossible to get in from the east coast because UCLA takes only 11% out-of-state non resident domestic students and Cal even less. UVA takes 30% OOS. Then there are the housing problems and costs mentioned above. Then the sheer size. UVA is a small public. UCLA is a city.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.

UCLA and Berkeley (and other UCs) rose recently with the recent change in metodology. They have a relatively high percentage of Pell recipient (California has one of the highest poverty rates) and very high research. These replaced criteria where the UCs lagged like student faculty ratios and alumni giving rates. They have relatively high faculty salaries, but if you factor that the cost of living in California is 150% of the national average it is not as good, particularly for younger faculty.

Sorry DP, but the UCs are just better. California has a much bigger pool of qualified in-state applicants (including some who also qualify for Pell), and there is proximity to the most innovative companies on the planet. UVA is a great state school, but Berkeley and UCLA are next level.

As a parent with a kid at UCLA and one at UVA I would disagree completely. UVA is the better undergraduate experience and school hands down. UCLA has better weather.

+1. Even if you can get in OOS UCLA is $81k, $83K if living off campus. UVA ranges $30-$32k total for in-state