$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

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Anonymous wrote:Best news of the day. Invest, educate,and train Americans.


I would like to share my personal experience.   I have been developing software since 1982.

In 1980s and 1990s software development was a great career. I was trained in fortran. I was a business major but a company took a chance on me and trained me to do software development.

In 1990's I hired many folks with 2 year associate degrees and trained them to be developers.  I hired African Americans and Hispanics from Strayer university. Folks that did not have parents to drive their middle school and high school studies. That is unheard of today.  Training budgets have been mostly eliminated for software developers.  and the reason is simple, supply and demand.

the 1990 Bush Immigration bill for H1B and the executive order in 2007 for OPT unleashed a huge migration of cheap temporary "guest" workers. There became a huge supply of cheap disposable workers, and companies took advantage of that.

stop the overwhelming supply and the market will adjust.

call your senators and congressman. repeal or pause the H1B and OPT visas. There is no worker shortage. this is government manipulation of the labor market to benefit big companies on the backs of US workers. 

stop falling for republican propaganda.
Anonymous
The H1b program was supposed to be a temporary visa—i.e., they leave after max 6 years—but that was changed in 2000. It needs to be eliminated entirely, along with the L1.
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Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/


the problem is lack of residency programs.

every year 10,000 US citizens, trained to be doctors but unable to find residency programs given to foreign H1Bs.

sorry, I would rather support my fellow citizens instead of supporting India.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12256077/


I am a doctor. The residency slots that go to H1B foreign medical grads are those that no US trained doctor will take. Programs would much rather take a US trained doctor than sponsor a visa, which is a hassle. It’s going to hurt the rural areas where no one wants to practice the most.


There's only one profession in which students who graduate from an advanced learning program and who pass all the required exams are barred from employment due to bureaucratic red tape and predatory immigration policies. That profession is medical doctor.

The New York Times estimated that there were over 10,000 qualified doctors who effectively can't practice medicine in America. U.S. citizens graduating from international medical schools are faced with even steeper odds: Only 67.6 percent matched in 2023.


Ironically, the number of foreign born doctors that the U.S. is importing—who are getting U.S. taxpayer-funded residencies—is on the rise. Since 2011, the number has risen from 2,721 to 5,032. So while American doctors languish without work, we are giving away good residencies and good jobs to foreigners.
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Anonymous wrote:A handful of large consulting companies, who specialize in outsourcing, are unhappy with this fee. Be prepared for a tidal wave of fearmongering from their minions.


Accenture and Deloitte?

Deloitte: nah, they just set up shop in India but don’t bring them over here in large numbers.


The data disagrees with you. Deloitte is right up there.

https://www.careernomics.com/candidates/masters-h1b-employers-ranking.php


EY had 10,120 H1B applications last year according to this data. Do the math 10,120 x $100,000 is a lot of money. Consulting firms will fight hard and I hope the administration stands firm.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you supporters care about the impact this will have on American achievement, on innovation, on talent?

Why do you all think that America is a leader in anything?? We have been able to attract top global talent for years! We *used to* want to be leaders in every industry?

You all are happy to give away the competitive edge everywhere?

Make it make sense.


hmm, H1B was created in 1990.

tell me how US created Silicon Valley and excelled in high tech in the 60's and 70's and 80's without cheap disposable temporary workers?

are you really that naive or are you a Big tech bot?


You are the one who has a totally naive and simplistic view. The tech ecosystem today is totally different from the Silicon Valley of the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You think changing one thing is going to bring everything back to the way it was? There are so many factors I don't even know where to start. ... But for starters, the major universities like Stanford and MIT were key players back then and with the Trump administration $hitting all over higher education, how is this going to work.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it can be underestimated how much this is going to devastate the south Asian communities in places like Northern Virginia, New Jersey, and the Bay Area.



If they are that important, a $100,000 fee is worth it.

If someone has skills that are so rare that they cannot be found in a nation of over 300,000,000 people, they should be getting paid millions of dollars.


or found in the 3.3 million new college graduates we produce EVERY YEAR!

and yet fools still believe Zuckerberg when he claims he can not find enough programmers, from 3.3 million new college grads.

where do all these naive people come from?
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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you supporters care about the impact this will have on American achievement, on innovation, on talent?

Why do you all think that America is a leader in anything?? We have been able to attract top global talent for years! We *used to* want to be leaders in every industry?

You all are happy to give away the competitive edge everywhere?

Make it make sense.


hmm, H1B was created in 1990.

tell me how US created Silicon Valley and excelled in high tech in the 60's and 70's and 80's without cheap disposable temporary workers?

are you really that naive or are you a Big tech bot?


You are the one who has a totally naive and simplistic view. The tech ecosystem today is totally different from the Silicon Valley of the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You think changing one thing is going to bring everything back to the way it was? There are so many factors I don't even know where to start. ... But for starters, the major universities like Stanford and MIT were key players back then and with the Trump administration $hitting all over higher education, how is this going to work.


you are advocating for a program that Big Tech uses to replace US citizens with cheap foreign labor.

What do you think of Microsoft laying off US workers and replacing them with temporary H1B visa workers?

Microsoft recently laid off approximately 9,000 employees, representing around 4% of its workforce, as part of broader restructuring efforts this year, a total of more than 15,000 positions have been cut in 2025.

These cuts coincided with a surge in H1B visa petitions. The company filed thousands of applications in the months leading up to the layoffs, reportedly totaling 4,776 labor condition applications between September and March 2025, indicating up to 14,181 positions supported via H1B contracts.

Obviously Microsoft shareholders benefit from reduced labor costs and workers that will put up with more mistreatment by their employer. Is it good for the US to have more people earning less money and more unemployed competing for the same amount of resources?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/


the problem is lack of residency programs.

every year 10,000 US citizens, trained to be doctors but unable to find residency programs given to foreign H1Bs.

sorry, I would rather support my fellow citizens instead of supporting India.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12256077/


I am a doctor. The residency slots that go to H1B foreign medical grads are those that no US trained doctor will take. Programs would much rather take a US trained doctor than sponsor a visa, which is a hassle. It’s going to hurt the rural areas where no one wants to practice the most.


There's only one profession in which students who graduate from an advanced learning program and who pass all the required exams are barred from employment due to bureaucratic red tape and predatory immigration policies. That profession is medical doctor.

The New York Times estimated that there were over 10,000 qualified doctors who effectively can't practice medicine in America. U.S. citizens graduating from international medical schools are faced with even steeper odds: Only 67.6 percent matched in 2023.


Ironically, the number of foreign born doctors that the U.S. is importing—who are getting U.S. taxpayer-funded residencies—is on the rise. Since 2011, the number has risen from 2,721 to 5,032. So while American doctors languish without work, we are giving away good residencies and good jobs to foreigners.


According to the AAMC there is a shortage of doctors that is predicted to get worse.

https://www.aamc.org/news/press-releases/new-aamc-report-shows-continuing-projected-physician-shortage
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/


the problem is lack of residency programs.

every year 10,000 US citizens, trained to be doctors but unable to find residency programs given to foreign H1Bs.

sorry, I would rather support my fellow citizens instead of supporting India.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12256077/


I am a doctor. The residency slots that go to H1B foreign medical grads are those that no US trained doctor will take. Programs would much rather take a US trained doctor than sponsor a visa, which is a hassle. It’s going to hurt the rural areas where no one wants to practice the most.


Is there some mechanism where foreigners only take the unwanted medical positions. I don't think there is. I think they take the urban jobs where there are Asian communities and what not and Americans still don't want those jobs.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/


the problem is lack of residency programs.

every year 10,000 US citizens, trained to be doctors but unable to find residency programs given to foreign H1Bs.

sorry, I would rather support my fellow citizens instead of supporting India.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12256077/


I am a doctor. The residency slots that go to H1B foreign medical grads are those that no US trained doctor will take. Programs would much rather take a US trained doctor than sponsor a visa, which is a hassle. It’s going to hurt the rural areas where no one wants to practice the most.


There's only one profession in which students who graduate from an advanced learning program and who pass all the required exams are barred from employment due to bureaucratic red tape and predatory immigration policies. That profession is medical doctor.

The New York Times estimated that there were over 10,000 qualified doctors who effectively can't practice medicine in America. U.S. citizens graduating from international medical schools are faced with even steeper odds: Only 67.6 percent matched in 2023.


Ironically, the number of foreign born doctors that the U.S. is importing—who are getting U.S. taxpayer-funded residencies—is on the rise. Since 2011, the number has risen from 2,721 to 5,032. So while American doctors languish without work, we are giving away good residencies and good jobs to foreigners.


According to the AAMC there is a shortage of doctors that is predicted to get worse.

https://www.aamc.org/news/press-releases/new-aamc-report-shows-continuing-projected-physician-shortage


I consider labor shortages wonderful. I have never known anything bad to come from a labor shortage, and what we are doing with our immigration policy is keeping the labor market in constant surplus.

Vernon Briggs
Cornell Labor Economist

The underlying truth about the immigration battle is that is is fundamentally between those with an insatiable appetite for more cheap, disposable, foreign workers, and those who embrace the social good of tight labor markets.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you supporters care about the impact this will have on American achievement, on innovation, on talent?

Why do you all think that America is a leader in anything?? We have been able to attract top global talent for years! We *used to* want to be leaders in every industry?

You all are happy to give away the competitive edge everywhere?

Make it make sense.


hmm, H1B was created in 1990.

tell me how US created Silicon Valley and excelled in high tech in the 60's and 70's and 80's without cheap disposable temporary workers?

are you really that naive or are you a Big tech bot?


You are the one who has a totally naive and simplistic view. The tech ecosystem today is totally different from the Silicon Valley of the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You think changing one thing is going to bring everything back to the way it was? There are so many factors I don't even know where to start. ... But for starters, the major universities like Stanford and MIT were key players back then and with the Trump administration $hitting all over higher education, how is this going to work.


you are advocating for a program that Big Tech uses to replace US citizens with cheap foreign labor.

What do you think of Microsoft laying off US workers and replacing them with temporary H1B visa workers?

Microsoft recently laid off approximately 9,000 employees, representing around 4% of its workforce, as part of broader restructuring efforts this year, a total of more than 15,000 positions have been cut in 2025.

These cuts coincided with a surge in H1B visa petitions. The company filed thousands of applications in the months leading up to the layoffs, reportedly totaling 4,776 labor condition applications between September and March 2025, indicating up to 14,181 positions supported via H1B contracts.

Obviously Microsoft shareholders benefit from reduced labor costs and workers that will put up with more mistreatment by their employer. Is it good for the US to have more people earning less money and more unemployed competing for the same amount of resources?


Again with the ridiculously simplistic analysis.

There are so many reasons Microsoft has laid off workers: post-pandemic correction of tech companies everywhere; the super shitty economic outlook; and especially >>> the move to AI!

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't you supporters care about the impact this will have on American achievement, on innovation, on talent?

Why do you all think that America is a leader in anything?? We have been able to attract top global talent for years! We *used to* want to be leaders in every industry?

You all are happy to give away the competitive edge everywhere?

Make it make sense.


hmm, H1B was created in 1990.

tell me how US created Silicon Valley and excelled in high tech in the 60's and 70's and 80's without cheap disposable temporary workers?

are you really that naive or are you a Big tech bot?


You are the one who has a totally naive and simplistic view. The tech ecosystem today is totally different from the Silicon Valley of the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You think changing one thing is going to bring everything back to the way it was? There are so many factors I don't even know where to start. ... But for starters, the major universities like Stanford and MIT were key players back then and with the Trump administration $hitting all over higher education, how is this going to work.


you are advocating for a program that Big Tech uses to replace US citizens with cheap foreign labor.

What do you think of Microsoft laying off US workers and replacing them with temporary H1B visa workers?

Microsoft recently laid off approximately 9,000 employees, representing around 4% of its workforce, as part of broader restructuring efforts this year, a total of more than 15,000 positions have been cut in 2025.

These cuts coincided with a surge in H1B visa petitions. The company filed thousands of applications in the months leading up to the layoffs, reportedly totaling 4,776 labor condition applications between September and March 2025, indicating up to 14,181 positions supported via H1B contracts.

Obviously Microsoft shareholders benefit from reduced labor costs and workers that will put up with more mistreatment by their employer. Is it good for the US to have more people earning less money and more unemployed competing for the same amount of resources?


Again with the ridiculously simplistic analysis.

There are so many reasons Microsoft has laid off workers: post-pandemic correction of tech companies everywhere; the super shitty economic outlook; and especially >>> the move to AI!



ah yes, debating facts is tough. just label them simplistic.

next you will yell RACIST!

facts are that H1B is about entry level cheap workers. if they are highly skilled let the companies pay the fee , they would be glad to because they can't find the skills in the US. so we will see if H1B is about cheap labor or highly skilled labor.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/


Oh god. I didn’t think about that. Ugh


Med schools are going to have to start training Americans. Hospitals are going to have to open more residency slots.

I know, the horror. Investing in our own people. Terrible.


Had the opportunity to spend months in 3 area hospitals. I found it interesting that I ran into maybe 3 homegrown doctors, even the nurses and PAs. Are hospitals using visas for the others as well?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't you supporters care about the impact this will have on American achievement, on innovation, on talent?

Why do you all think that America is a leader in anything?? We have been able to attract top global talent for years! We *used to* want to be leaders in every industry?

You all are happy to give away the competitive edge everywhere?

Make it make sense.


hmm, H1B was created in 1990.

tell me how US created Silicon Valley and excelled in high tech in the 60's and 70's and 80's without cheap disposable temporary workers?

are you really that naive or are you a Big tech bot?


You are the one who has a totally naive and simplistic view. The tech ecosystem today is totally different from the Silicon Valley of the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You think changing one thing is going to bring everything back to the way it was? There are so many factors I don't even know where to start. ... But for starters, the major universities like Stanford and MIT were key players back then and with the Trump administration $hitting all over higher education, how is this going to work.


you are advocating for a program that Big Tech uses to replace US citizens with cheap foreign labor.

What do you think of Microsoft laying off US workers and replacing them with temporary H1B visa workers?

Microsoft recently laid off approximately 9,000 employees, representing around 4% of its workforce, as part of broader restructuring efforts this year, a total of more than 15,000 positions have been cut in 2025.

These cuts coincided with a surge in H1B visa petitions. The company filed thousands of applications in the months leading up to the layoffs, reportedly totaling 4,776 labor condition applications between September and March 2025, indicating up to 14,181 positions supported via H1B contracts.

Obviously Microsoft shareholders benefit from reduced labor costs and workers that will put up with more mistreatment by their employer. Is it good for the US to have more people earning less money and more unemployed competing for the same amount of resources?


Again with the ridiculously simplistic analysis.

There are so many reasons Microsoft has laid off workers: post-pandemic correction of tech companies everywhere; the super shitty economic outlook; and especially >>> the move to AI!



ah yes, debating facts is tough. just label them simplistic.

next you will yell RACIST!

facts are that H1B is about entry level cheap workers. if they are highly skilled let the companies pay the fee , they would be glad to because they can't find the skills in the US. so we will see if H1B is about cheap labor or highly skilled labor.


ha. Debating the facts is tough, isn't it? Just ignore my argument.

I gave you multiple counter-facts to argue that there are many more factors, angles, and nuances tot he story. Your response, just repeat the one reductionist argument.
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Anonymous wrote:I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.


from reading the comments, it appears that most of DCUM have no clue what H1B is and how it has been used to screw US workers for 35 years.

how do we have a skills shortage for 35 years?


Husband was laid off and had to take a 50k pay cut through an Indian contractor firm. Maybe now he can get properly hired.
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