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I would like to share my personal experience. I have been developing software since 1982. In 1980s and 1990s software development was a great career. I was trained in fortran. I was a business major but a company took a chance on me and trained me to do software development. In 1990's I hired many folks with 2 year associate degrees and trained them to be developers. I hired African Americans and Hispanics from Strayer university. Folks that did not have parents to drive their middle school and high school studies. That is unheard of today. Training budgets have been mostly eliminated for software developers. and the reason is simple, supply and demand. the 1990 Bush Immigration bill for H1B and the executive order in 2007 for OPT unleashed a huge migration of cheap temporary "guest" workers. There became a huge supply of cheap disposable workers, and companies took advantage of that. stop the overwhelming supply and the market will adjust. call your senators and congressman. repeal or pause the H1B and OPT visas. There is no worker shortage. this is government manipulation of the labor market to benefit big companies on the backs of US workers. stop falling for republican propaganda. |
| The H1b program was supposed to be a temporary visa—i.e., they leave after max 6 years—but that was changed in 2000. It needs to be eliminated entirely, along with the L1. |
There's only one profession in which students who graduate from an advanced learning program and who pass all the required exams are barred from employment due to bureaucratic red tape and predatory immigration policies. That profession is medical doctor. The New York Times estimated that there were over 10,000 qualified doctors who effectively can't practice medicine in America. U.S. citizens graduating from international medical schools are faced with even steeper odds: Only 67.6 percent matched in 2023. Ironically, the number of foreign born doctors that the U.S. is importing—who are getting U.S. taxpayer-funded residencies—is on the rise. Since 2011, the number has risen from 2,721 to 5,032. So while American doctors languish without work, we are giving away good residencies and good jobs to foreigners. |
EY had 10,120 H1B applications last year according to this data. Do the math 10,120 x $100,000 is a lot of money. Consulting firms will fight hard and I hope the administration stands firm. |
You are the one who has a totally naive and simplistic view. The tech ecosystem today is totally different from the Silicon Valley of the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You think changing one thing is going to bring everything back to the way it was? There are so many factors I don't even know where to start. ... But for starters, the major universities like Stanford and MIT were key players back then and with the Trump administration $hitting all over higher education, how is this going to work. |
or found in the 3.3 million new college graduates we produce EVERY YEAR! and yet fools still believe Zuckerberg when he claims he can not find enough programmers, from 3.3 million new college grads. where do all these naive people come from? |
you are advocating for a program that Big Tech uses to replace US citizens with cheap foreign labor. What do you think of Microsoft laying off US workers and replacing them with temporary H1B visa workers? Microsoft recently laid off approximately 9,000 employees, representing around 4% of its workforce, as part of broader restructuring efforts this year, a total of more than 15,000 positions have been cut in 2025. These cuts coincided with a surge in H1B visa petitions. The company filed thousands of applications in the months leading up to the layoffs, reportedly totaling 4,776 labor condition applications between September and March 2025, indicating up to 14,181 positions supported via H1B contracts. Obviously Microsoft shareholders benefit from reduced labor costs and workers that will put up with more mistreatment by their employer. Is it good for the US to have more people earning less money and more unemployed competing for the same amount of resources? |
According to the AAMC there is a shortage of doctors that is predicted to get worse. https://www.aamc.org/news/press-releases/new-aamc-report-shows-continuing-projected-physician-shortage |
Is there some mechanism where foreigners only take the unwanted medical positions. I don't think there is. I think they take the urban jobs where there are Asian communities and what not and Americans still don't want those jobs. |
I consider labor shortages wonderful. I have never known anything bad to come from a labor shortage, and what we are doing with our immigration policy is keeping the labor market in constant surplus. Vernon Briggs Cornell Labor Economist The underlying truth about the immigration battle is that is is fundamentally between those with an insatiable appetite for more cheap, disposable, foreign workers, and those who embrace the social good of tight labor markets. |
Again with the ridiculously simplistic analysis. There are so many reasons Microsoft has laid off workers: post-pandemic correction of tech companies everywhere; the super shitty economic outlook; and especially >>> the move to AI! |
ah yes, debating facts is tough. just label them simplistic. next you will yell RACIST! facts are that H1B is about entry level cheap workers. if they are highly skilled let the companies pay the fee , they would be glad to because they can't find the skills in the US. so we will see if H1B is about cheap labor or highly skilled labor. |
Had the opportunity to spend months in 3 area hospitals. I found it interesting that I ran into maybe 3 homegrown doctors, even the nurses and PAs. Are hospitals using visas for the others as well? |
ha. Debating the facts is tough, isn't it? Just ignore my argument. I gave you multiple counter-facts to argue that there are many more factors, angles, and nuances tot he story. Your response, just repeat the one reductionist argument. |
Husband was laid off and had to take a 50k pay cut through an Indian contractor firm. Maybe now he can get properly hired. |