USN&WR high school ranking are out!

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there's lots of WOTP mommies on this thread who are unhappy to learn that the best high schools in the city are not...west of the park.


Yeah this has devolved basically into a thread of people unhappy their kid didn't get into Walls and that Black kids may be getting an ok education without their saviorism.


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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


Sure made a lot of 5th grade offers this year....


Can anyone fill me in on why BASIS makes so many more 5th grade lottery offers than Latin does? Thanks.


Because most parents don't want to send their kids to a pressure cooker school with no library or gym?


Library dude is back! I missed this crackpot. Welcome back my friend.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


Sure made a lot of 5th grade offers this year....


Can anyone fill me in on why BASIS makes so many more 5th grade lottery offers than Latin does? Thanks.


Because most parents don't want to send their kids to a pressure cooker school with no library or gym?


Library dude is back! I missed this crackpot. Welcome back my friend.


I'm not library dude. And don't care about BASIS. But my kid's favorite place to hang in his high school is the library, so I'm glad he has one. Which is why I mentioned it.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.


What on earth is this. Here are a few ways BASIS helps struggling students:

Every teacher has office hours once a week after school and kids can come and get one:one help. I know many kids who did this and raised Cs to As.

Georgetown students are there after school and provide free tutoring.

It is an advanced curriculum that is probably not appropriate for many students, so they leave. But it's absolutely not true that BASIS doesn't try to help struggling students who want to try.


(I realize that any positive fact revealed about BASIS is seen as "boosterism." So I'm going to stick with correcting incorrect facts.)
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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.


What on earth is this. Here are a few ways BASIS helps struggling students:

Every teacher has office hours once a week after school and kids can come and get one:one help. I know many kids who did this and raised Cs to As.

Georgetown students are there after school and provide free tutoring.

It is an advanced curriculum that is probably not appropriate for many students, so they leave. But it's absolutely not true that BASIS doesn't try to help struggling students who want to try.


(I realize that any positive fact revealed about BASIS is seen as "boosterism." So I'm going to stick with correcting incorrect facts.)


"So they leave", as if the threat of retention has nothing to do with it.

BASIS curates its 7th-12th grades using testing. That's the bottom line here. It's selective.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.


What on earth is this. Here are a few ways BASIS helps struggling students:

Every teacher has office hours once a week after school and kids can come and get one:one help. I know many kids who did this and raised Cs to As.

Georgetown students are there after school and provide free tutoring.

It is an advanced curriculum that is probably not appropriate for many students, so they leave. But it's absolutely not true that BASIS doesn't try to help struggling students who want to try.


(I realize that any positive fact revealed about BASIS is seen as "boosterism." So I'm going to stick with correcting incorrect facts.)


"So they leave", as if the threat of retention has nothing to do with it.

BASIS curates its 7th-12th grades using testing. That's the bottom line here. It's selective.


You want us to be mad because BASIS doesn't do social promotion? It's literally impossible to flunk at my neighborhood high school.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.


What on earth is this. Here are a few ways BASIS helps struggling students:

Every teacher has office hours once a week after school and kids can come and get one:one help. I know many kids who did this and raised Cs to As.

Georgetown students are there after school and provide free tutoring.

It is an advanced curriculum that is probably not appropriate for many students, so they leave. But it's absolutely not true that BASIS doesn't try to help struggling students who want to try.


(I realize that any positive fact revealed about BASIS is seen as "boosterism." So I'm going to stick with correcting incorrect facts.)


"So they leave", as if the threat of retention has nothing to do with it.

BASIS curates its 7th-12th grades using testing. That's the bottom line here. It's selective.


You want us to be mad because BASIS doesn't do social promotion? It's literally impossible to flunk at my neighborhood high school.



NP. No PP is not mad but when you do comparisons, it is a “selective” school in this sense because it seeds out these kids.

Bottom line, don’t boost the school, admit it is selective, and stop saying it’s so great compared to other schools that are not selective.

It is not rocket science but point above has to be made every time .
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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.


What on earth is this. Here are a few ways BASIS helps struggling students:

Every teacher has office hours once a week after school and kids can come and get one:one help. I know many kids who did this and raised Cs to As.

Georgetown students are there after school and provide free tutoring.

It is an advanced curriculum that is probably not appropriate for many students, so they leave. But it's absolutely not true that BASIS doesn't try to help struggling students who want to try.


(I realize that any positive fact revealed about BASIS is seen as "boosterism." So I'm going to stick with correcting incorrect facts.)


"So they leave", as if the threat of retention has nothing to do with it.

BASIS curates its 7th-12th grades using testing. That's the bottom line here. It's selective.


You want us to be mad because BASIS doesn't do social promotion? It's literally impossible to flunk at my neighborhood high school.



NP. No PP is not mad but when you do comparisons, it is a “selective” school in this sense because it seeds out these kids.

Bottom line, don’t boost the school, admit it is selective, and stop saying it’s so great compared to other schools that are not selective.

It is not rocket science but point above has to be made every time .


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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.


What on earth is this. Here are a few ways BASIS helps struggling students:

Every teacher has office hours once a week after school and kids can come and get one:one help. I know many kids who did this and raised Cs to As.

Georgetown students are there after school and provide free tutoring.

It is an advanced curriculum that is probably not appropriate for many students, so they leave. But it's absolutely not true that BASIS doesn't try to help struggling students who want to try.


(I realize that any positive fact revealed about BASIS is seen as "boosterism." So I'm going to stick with correcting incorrect facts.)


"So they leave", as if the threat of retention has nothing to do with it.

BASIS curates its 7th-12th grades using testing. That's the bottom line here. It's selective.


You want us to be mad because BASIS doesn't do social promotion? It's literally impossible to flunk at my neighborhood high school.



NP. No PP is not mad but when you do comparisons, it is a “selective” school in this sense because it seeds out these kids.

Bottom line, don’t boost the school, admit it is selective, and stop saying it’s so great compared to other schools that are not selective.

It is not rocket science but point above has to be made every time .


You have a curious fixation about this. I don't think anyone else cares whether it could be considered selective.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.


What on earth is this. Here are a few ways BASIS helps struggling students:

Every teacher has office hours once a week after school and kids can come and get one:one help. I know many kids who did this and raised Cs to As.

Georgetown students are there after school and provide free tutoring.

It is an advanced curriculum that is probably not appropriate for many students, so they leave. But it's absolutely not true that BASIS doesn't try to help struggling students who want to try.


(I realize that any positive fact revealed about BASIS is seen as "boosterism." So I'm going to stick with correcting incorrect facts.)


"So they leave", as if the threat of retention has nothing to do with it.

BASIS curates its 7th-12th grades using testing. That's the bottom line here. It's selective.


You want us to be mad because BASIS doesn't do social promotion? It's literally impossible to flunk at my neighborhood high school.



NP. No PP is not mad but when you do comparisons, it is a “selective” school in this sense because it seeds out these kids.

Bottom line, don’t boost the school, admit it is selective, and stop saying it’s so great compared to other schools that are not selective.

It is not rocket science but point above has to be made every time .


You have a curious fixation about this. I don't think anyone else cares whether it could be considered selective.


Yeah, I feel this says more about how normalized social promotion is in DC. Not doing it feels worth noting.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.


What on earth is this. Here are a few ways BASIS helps struggling students:

Every teacher has office hours once a week after school and kids can come and get one:one help. I know many kids who did this and raised Cs to As.

Georgetown students are there after school and provide free tutoring.

It is an advanced curriculum that is probably not appropriate for many students, so they leave. But it's absolutely not true that BASIS doesn't try to help struggling students who want to try.


(I realize that any positive fact revealed about BASIS is seen as "boosterism." So I'm going to stick with correcting incorrect facts.)


"So they leave", as if the threat of retention has nothing to do with it.

BASIS curates its 7th-12th grades using testing. That's the bottom line here. It's selective.


You want us to be mad because BASIS doesn't do social promotion? It's literally impossible to flunk at my neighborhood high school.


I want you to acknowledge that it is in fact a selective school in grades 7-12, and stop making disingenuous comparisons to schools that are not selective.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.


That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.


Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.


Really? Name one.


Every bilingual school in the city?


What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.


No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.


You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.


It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.


No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.


Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.


Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.


Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.


You first


I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.


Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?


Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.


It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.


It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?


A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.


Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.


Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.


Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.


Is being 17 in the 6th grade age appropriate? Because that's what BASIS is offering to some students. And that's why people leave.


lol.

Uh, no, that doesn’t happen.


So now Basis is engaged in social promotion?

The only reason Basis doesn’t have 17 year olds in 6th grade is that when Basis fails to educate its own students, it then sends them away for some other school to deal with. Standing on its own, the Basis model calls for 17 year olds in 6th grade.


Ok, so you're admitting that you were lying. Got it.


I’m a DP. And the PP didn’t say Basis has 17 year olds in 6th grade. The PP said that being 17 in 6th grade is “what Basis is offering to some students.” And that’s true. Basis has no plan to actually teach struggling students. The Basis model is, struggling students shall repeat 6th grade until they are so old that DC won’t pay for them to attend any more. Of course no parent would actually put a child through that, and what happens in reality is that the children leave for other schools. Which is to say that the Basis model is parasitic upon the very same schools that its boosters deride.


What on earth is this. Here are a few ways BASIS helps struggling students:

Every teacher has office hours once a week after school and kids can come and get one:one help. I know many kids who did this and raised Cs to As.

Georgetown students are there after school and provide free tutoring.

It is an advanced curriculum that is probably not appropriate for many students, so they leave. But it's absolutely not true that BASIS doesn't try to help struggling students who want to try.


(I realize that any positive fact revealed about BASIS is seen as "boosterism." So I'm going to stick with correcting incorrect facts.)


"So they leave", as if the threat of retention has nothing to do with it.

BASIS curates its 7th-12th grades using testing. That's the bottom line here. It's selective.


You want us to be mad because BASIS doesn't do social promotion? It's literally impossible to flunk at my neighborhood high school.



NP. No PP is not mad but when you do comparisons, it is a “selective” school in this sense because it seeds out these kids.

Bottom line, don’t boost the school, admit it is selective, and stop saying it’s so great compared to other schools that are not selective.

It is not rocket science but point above has to be made every time .


You have a curious fixation about this. I don't think anyone else cares whether it could be considered selective.


BASIS boosters care about it. They don't want to acknowledge it because then they'd have to admit that BASIS isn't actually as high performing as they'd like people to believe.
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So tired of hearing about Basis. Just stop, Basis people.
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i have to think an advanced track and a regular track with ability to move between them might be kinder to students
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