Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job
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Anonymous
It’s not the Buckner effect, it’s being a lax bro that helps. |
Anonymous
Make sure they are prepared, go to the career workshops before the career fairs, have resumes done and have appropriate Clothing to wear. They should also reach target employers so they have something to discuss with recruiters. |
Anonymous
Holy smokes. What a stupid post. People who do English at Vassar likely end up making way more than people who do engineering at VT. Law school, anyone? I did English at a SLAC and the. Law school and I have consistently made over $1M per year for about 15 years. Take that Mr engineer. |
Anonymous
According to Forbes, Average alumni salary at VT is higher than Vassar 10 years post grad; and VT is disadvantaged by being a much larger school. It actually doesn’t track that the more prestigious your degree the more you get paid. Your major has a much more massive impact on lifetime earnings. |
Anonymous
I’ve mentioned all of the above. He’s very relaxed and not stressed and it’s frustrating truthfully. But he knows what the economy is like so maybe he’ll step up into the game. I told him to treat his internship applications like a class this semester; sit down a few times a week and just do it. |
Anonymous
and your own government is pushing programs that help corporations hire cheap foreign labor instead of US grads. time to repeal the OPT program. call your political representatives. The troubling fact is that the OPT program was created entirely through regulation with no authorization from Congress whatsoever. It has been going on for so long, that many people assume that Congress authorized OPT when in fact, Congress has explicitly changed the law to prohibit it. Here is a history of how OPT came about. In reading this history, keep in mind that the regulations described here employ the euphemism "practical training" to refer to work. In 2007, Microsoft concocted a scheme to use OPT as a means to circumvent the H-1B quotas. Microsoft's plan was to extend the duration of OPT from a year to 29-months, so that the duration would be sufficient to serve as a guestworker program, rather than just an internship-type program. Microsoft proposed this scheme to the Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff at a dinner party at the home of the owner of the Washington Nationals baseball team. (See pp. 229-230 in the book Sold Out.) From there, DHS worked in absolute secrecy with industry lobbyists to craft regulations implementing Microsoft's plan. In a classic example of Washington cronyism, the first notice that DHS was even considering such regulations came when they were promulgated as a fait accompli, without notice and comment, on April 8, 2008 (73 Fed. Reg. 18,944). These regulations made three major expansions to OPT. First, they allowed aliens to remain in student visa status while they were unemployed so they could look for work. Second, they allowed aliens working under OPT to remain in student visa status from the time an H-1B petition was filed on their behalf until a final decision was made on the petition or the start date. This adds a maximum of 6 months to the OPT duration. Finally, they authorized a 17-month work period for aliens with degrees in fields DHS designates at Science/Technology/Engineering/Mathematics (STEM). This gave a maximum OPT duration of 35 months. The OPT program has been the subject of continuous litigation since then where, after nearly a decade, the federal courts have been unable to come to a decision on whether it is lawful. However in 2015, the D.C. District Court held that the 2008 OPT regulations had been promulgated unlawfully without notice and comment. In response to this opinion, DHS promulgated new regulations that did the same as the old regulations except that they expanded the STEM work period from 17 months to 24 months, giving a maximum OPT work period of 42 months (24+12+6). OPT is an example of the administrative state run amok. Instead of law coming from Congress, we have law coming from bureaucrats working hand-in-hand with lobbyists. OPT also illustrates the slippery-slope problem of regulation. Work on student visas started innocently as an integral part of a course of study to give foreign students an experience not available in their home country, but eventually was transformed into a full-blown guestworker program whose stated purpose is to provide labor to American business. https://cis.org/Report/History-Optional-Practical-Training-Guestworker-Program |
Anonymous
not AI, it is H1B and OPT destroying CS jobs for US graduates. |
Anonymous
| 2025 grad parent here. Kid graduated with a BS in accounting from a state school most on here would turn there noses up at. They hustled for an internship last year and got a full time offer upon graduation. They are paying for them to study for CPA exam (just sat for the first exam this week.) Also have a 2023 engineering grad who has been fully employed since graduation. Jobs are out there. |
Anonymous
Yup. And outsourcing entry level jobs. |
Anonymous
Glad to hear this! |
Anonymous
My kid is “third year” now, and declared the same major/minor combo. Also a foreign language major. They better get their rear in gear to land an internship this summer. Did your kid do any ECs while on campus/grounds? |
Anonymous
Title rich. Same as Banking that has a bunch of VP’s that in other companies might be Lead or Manager. Folks know about this. |
Anonymous
Yep. I’m concerned for my kid majoring in psychology. So far everyone who has responded with a successes had kids who majored in accounting, comp sci, or engineering. |
Anonymous
Interesting. Is this because of all the cuts in medical research grants from the federal government |
Anonymous
Why did you add this nonsense to your post? I posted upthread that DS has a job, but I know he’s terribly lucky because the rate of GenZ unemployment is double the national average, including young men who have college degrees. We can’t be blind to this. |