Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh, this is making me upset that my kid wants to major in government or history. I don't know what he's going to do coming out of college.

Yep. I’m concerned for my kid majoring in psychology. So far everyone who has responded with a successes had kids who majored in accounting, comp sci, or engineering.

With that couldn’t they go to grad school to become a therapist or school counselor? I know it’s not always ideal to do more school but those are pretty stable jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:CS was so dumb to welcome AI, which ended up destroying them. At least law and medicine were, for a long time, highly regulated and created artificial scarcity.

My first job was 25 years ago, and i made $50k out of college WITH JUST AN ART DEGREE. My own child is terrified to graduate next year with an engineering degree from a top ten. They're looking at working abroad.

not AI, it is H1B and OPT destroying CS jobs for US graduates.

Same thing. Most foreign lawyers have to LLMs and still have to sit for the bar. CS never had a union to speak to stand up for it.

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Anonymous wrote:My 2024 grad got a job b4- accounting, interned summer of 2023 and got return offer. This summer the firm was much more selective with return offers. my 2026 grad just received a return offer from his summer internship, engineering major. Tell your college students to take the fall career fairs seriously! Both of my kids and most of their friends got their internships at college career fairs. The internship is the key to job offers.

My son is starting his junior year of college next week. I’ve given him this advice throughout the summer. 🤞

A lot depends on his resume to date: what did he do after sophomore summer? Most kids have career-related resume-building experiences during sophomore summer. Job at least tangentially related to career if not a real internship, research with a professor, even volunteering will work. Plus, what has he done during the semester? These days to be competitive for jobs they want to see the student has some leadership skills and/or research skills depending on the sector they want to go in to.

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Anonymous wrote:Math major from Williams. DS is making 110K in his first job out. Considering applying already, because he thinks he's underpaid. Everyone he knows has a job or is in grad school.

I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a job from a top tier school.

you're really annoying to make it sound like you know everything and everyone. I have a 2025 grad from a top school and he hasn't found a job yet. There, you know one. Oh and he has several friends and classmates that also do not. There you know more. So now stop trying to make everyone believe you are all knowing.

What do you consider a top school?

my unemployed kid went to a top 25 school and was a public policy/foreign affairs major. Tons of great internships and connections. No job yet.

My kid is “third year” now, and declared the same major/minor combo. Also a foreign language major. They better get their rear in gear to land an internship this summer. Did your kid do any ECs while on campus/grounds?

Yes he was in a club sport and part of a music group and in a fraternity, where he was on the executive board. He also had a summer internship that extended on a part time, remote basis for two years. He has the perfect resume for what he wants to do and he’s happy that he has gotten interviews where they told him he was one of 10 they are interviewing out of 1000+ applicants. It is an AWFUL time to be a grad with this major. He doesn’t want to go right to grad school as he wanted to work, earn money and decide what he’d want do to, masters or law school, but right now the options are getting limited. Hoping once the Congress is back in session, things will open up a bit.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh, this is making me upset that my kid wants to major in government or history. I don't know what he's going to do coming out of college.

Yep. I’m concerned for my kid majoring in psychology. So far everyone who has responded with a successes had kids who majored in accounting, comp sci, or engineering.

With that couldn’t they go to grad school to become a therapist or school counselor? I know it’s not always ideal to do more school but those are pretty stable jobs.

+1 psych majors need a masters for a stable job, unless at a T10/ivy where Psych majors can commonly roll into consulting jobs (though most are premeds). A psychology major needs to have a plan early to find a job and should be interning or doing research every summer of college to build the resume that is flexible for being hired in many sectors.
It used to be CS and engineers had it easy in the job search but now that is turning around and they have to hustle almost as much as psych majors. It will get worse for CS in particular for a while. Reports that Cornell CS/comp has 15% unemployed 6 mos out. Psych majors are not nearly that bad off.

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While not a permanent job, my rising junior CS major has submitted 12-15 applications thus far for summer 2026 internships. Fortunately he has 3 interviews during this inital run. For summer 2025, he submitted 190 applications to get 1 interview and offer.

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Anonymous wrote:DD hustled and got a post-graduation job. It is at a firm where half the posters would be impressed and the other half would say gross. A few years ago I naively was encouraging her to go for a fellowship, like a Fulbright, or honors program in a government agency. She was correct to hustle for the corporate job.

I will note that she works very hard and is grateful for the job. Her role isn’t STEM or finance so she isn’t paid as much as some are noting here. But she enjoys the work and her team and is getting great experience.

How exactly is having a moderately paid job in a company clearly better than spending the same year(s) being a Rhodes, Fulbright or Marshall fellow? I mean, good for her if that is her priority, but I'm not sure it's correct to extrapolate

Yeah I don’t get this one. If you’re in the humanities a Rhodes scholarship is the ticket to a successful career- you’re much more likely to get into a top PhD program or law school. Corporate work is great, but these are once in a lifetime opportunities.

Agree. That PP doesn't seem to actually know what these are.

+++++ they are almost a golden ticket for many top-tier goals.

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Anonymous wrote:CS was so dumb to welcome AI, which ended up destroying them. At least law and medicine were, for a long time, highly regulated and created artificial scarcity.

My first job was 25 years ago, and i made $50k out of college WITH JUST AN ART DEGREE. My own child is terrified to graduate next year with an engineering degree from a top ten. They're looking at working abroad.

not AI, it is H1B and OPT destroying CS jobs for US graduates.

Dont think 92-93% EMPLOYMENT rate for new CS graduates is destruction.

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Anonymous wrote:My 2024 grad got a job b4- accounting, interned summer of 2023 and got return offer. This summer the firm was much more selective with return offers. my 2026 grad just received a return offer from his summer internship, engineering major. Tell your college students to take the fall career fairs seriously! Both of my kids and most of their friends got their internships at college career fairs. The internship is the key to job offers.

My son is starting his junior year of college next week. I’ve given him this advice throughout the summer. 🤞

A lot depends on his resume to date: what did he do after sophomore summer? Most kids have career-related resume-building experiences during sophomore summer. Job at least tangentially related to career if not a real internship, research with a professor, even volunteering will work. Plus, what has he done during the semester? These days to be competitive for jobs they want to see the student has some leadership skills and/or research skills depending on the sector they want to go in to.

My kid applied for internships for the summer. He is going to be a junior. He had one interview which was good experience but no job. He worked on campus for event services instead. Nine of his friends got internships either and most had trouble even finding summer jobs.

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A devastating new report just dropped - and it’s EMBARRASSING for Trump: Exactly ZERO companies have moved all their manufacturing to the United States since Trump took office.


There will be no jobs!

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DS just finished his junior summer project management internship with a major general contractor. They made him a permanent offer. I’m really glad he chose to major in civil engineering. He decided not to get his master’s in structural and accept the job. He may want to get his MBA down the line as he wants to make a lot of money. How does a civil engineer make a lot of money? Become a property developer?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 2024 grad got a job b4- accounting, interned summer of 2023 and got return offer. This summer the firm was much more selective with return offers. my 2026 grad just received a return offer from his summer internship, engineering major. Tell your college students to take the fall career fairs seriously! Both of my kids and most of their friends got their internships at college career fairs. The internship is the key to job offers.

My son is starting his junior year of college next week. I’ve given him this advice throughout the summer. 🤞

A lot depends on his resume to date: what did he do after sophomore summer? Most kids have career-related resume-building experiences during sophomore summer. Job at least tangentially related to career if not a real internship, research with a professor, even volunteering will work. Plus, what has he done during the semester? These days to be competitive for jobs they want to see the student has some leadership skills and/or research skills depending on the sector they want to go in to.

My kid applied for internships for the summer. He is going to be a junior. He had one interview which was good experience but no job. He worked on campus for event services instead. Nine of his friends got internships either and most had trouble even finding summer jobs.

+ 1.

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Shows how privileged people are today. I was a full time employee at MasterCard in College. Did full time work while living at home took me five years to graduate. But job hunting is a funny thing. As my commuter school of blue collar people we all had jobs already. It was just a matter of getting a better job once you had a degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Shows how privileged people are today. I was a full time employee at MasterCard in College. Did full time work while living at home took me five years to graduate. But job hunting is a funny thing. As my commuter school of blue collar people we all had jobs already. It was just a matter of getting a better job once you had a degree.

“How privileged people are today.”

—Worked at a Fortune 500 company and the second or third largest payment card company in America at a time when you could do so without a college degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh, this is making me upset that my kid wants to major in government or history. I don't know what he's going to do coming out of college.

Yep. I’m concerned for my kid majoring in psychology. So far everyone who has responded with a successes had kids who majored in accounting, comp sci, or engineering.

Psychology majors must go to graduate school.