Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

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Anonymous wrote:Shows how privileged people are today. I was a full time employee at MasterCard in College. Did full time work while living at home took me five years to graduate. But job hunting is a funny thing. As my commuter school of blue collar people we all had jobs already. It was just a matter of getting a better job once you had a degree.

Your experience a million years ago in a different town/city is irrelevant for today. Boomers could pay for school with a summer job but no one can do that now. Nice that you feel morally superior due to totally different circumstances. Such an a$$hol€ reply, pp.

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As a technical manager for a major federal contractor in the DMV, I am seeing first hand the challenges in the current entry-level
job market. We recently listed two cybersecurity positions with a salary of $105K/yr and received over 5,000 applications. The pool included a overwhelming number of highly qualified candidates from prestigious institutions such as UVA, Duke, UNC, CMU, UPenn, Michigan, and Northwestern.

Unfortunately, the final hiring decisions were made by internal referrals and connections. One candidate from GMU was hired because
a federal government director knows her father, and another from UNC was selected because the EVP of the company know his father.

This highlights a difficult reality for new graduates. My niece, who graduated last year with a Computer Science degree from UVA's
School of Engineering and Applied Science, remains unemployed.

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Anonymous wrote:Shows how privileged people are today. I was a full time employee at MasterCard in College. Did full time work while living at home took me five years to graduate. But job hunting is a funny thing. As my commuter school of blue collar people we all had jobs already. It was just a matter of getting a better job once you had a degree.

Your experience a million years ago in a different town/city is irrelevant for today. Boomers could pay for school with a summer job but no one can do that now. Nice that you feel morally superior due to totally different circumstances. Such an a$$hol€ reply, pp.

+1 my parents bought a new house in 1974 in the Bay Area as a teacher and non-degree blue collar worker at AGE 26! They paid ~$40K. It’s now $1.9M!!! It’s not even a top school district either.

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I know it's a typo, but can confirm: the Jon market is 2-point-shite these days. Real talk.

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Neighbor's son graduated from Duke LAST YEAR with an economics degree and he still doesn't have a job. Only time we see him leave the house is to cart his younger sibling to school a few days a week or grab fast food.

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Anonymous wrote:We’re a normal family with normal kids that go to normal schools. It’s a tough market and many people are struggling to find a job. DS is an engineering major and is still looking for a position after to applying to 100+ places. Carnegie Mellon CS grads aren’t an honest reflection of the economy.

Indeed, I’m the PP with the kid working at Whole Foods. My kid went to a good school, but not an amazing school and did internships but not at the kind of places where you really need to know someone important. That said, my kid also has a really great attitude about the whole situation because most of their friends are in the same boat. They’re all working in jobs that get their bills paid while they look for the jobs they want, and they’re not just sitting around waiting for life to hand them something.

Holy cow. What college did your kid go to? This is why I'm always confused as to why non-1% families (or families that don't have a lot of generational wealth or a trust fund set up for their kids) let their children burn $200k on an English degree from Vassar (to take an example from my next door neighbor). Like seriously, what is even going through your head? Your kid would've been WAY better off doing engineering at VA Tech.

Also, major YIKES at the fact that most of your kid's college friends are just "working in jobs that get their bills paid while they look for the jobs they want, and they’re not just sitting around waiting for life to hand them something" -- is this what really happens when you major in the humanities at a SLAC? Ridiculous. At least if your kid was an English major at a school like Stanford, they'd be able to leverage that into a consulting gig at BCG or whatnot.

English at Vassar to engineering at VT is a ridiculous jump. They probably would end up doing English at VT and have similar if not worse outcomes.

Holy smokes. What a stupid post. People who do English at Vassar likely end up making way more than people who do engineering at VT. Law school, anyone? I did English at a SLAC and the. Law school and I have consistently made over $1M per year for about 15 years. Take that Mr engineer.

dp.. you just said that an English major from a SLAC, probably an expensive school, needed to spend more money to go to law school to get a good paying job. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's son graduated from Duke LAST YEAR with an economics degree and he still doesn't have a job. Only time we see him leave the house is to cart his younger sibling to school a few days a week or grab fast food.

Coddled young men are addicted to porn, video games, gambling, and often weed. A prestige degree means jack squat anymore. Anyone can sleep through a bachelor's degree, especially if you don't care about your GPA.

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My sophomore art major DD couldn't find a job in her college town, so started selling her art at markets and fairs on the weekend. With consistent profits all year long, she got a business license and expanded her sales online. She can't keep up with sales, so either has to up her prices or hire help. So maybe not finding a job is a blessing for now...it certainly gives her time to grow her own business.

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Anonymous wrote:My son just started a new job at Palantir. GA Tech 2025 Grad with a degree in CS. Excellent pay and benefits.

Gross.

DP but really? Are you jealous or simply a disgusting person? People on DCUM are even more toxic than I realized. Someone shares good news about their kid’s hard work paying off, and your reaction is “gross”? That says more about you than about them.

Jealous? No. I would be embarrassed if my boys took a job there and wouldn’t broadcast it. You know what’s more toxic than my post: Palantir. Big balls. Tech bros with God complexes. Spying on Americans. Corruption.

You’re disgusting just as i suspected. Such a scum bag.

In the scope of things, I’m not, no matter what you say. If she can’t take the heat that her DS is helping to unleash a genie in a bottle against the American public by a power-hungry billionaire, then she needs to get out of the kitchen. I’m saying what a lot of her friends are thinking.

You need to keep that BS to yourself cuz you’re wrong.

Your angry response says I’m not.

I’m not angry, just pointing out your BS and you’re a disgusting person.

I’m less disgusting than anyone who works here 😘:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/technology/trump-palantir-data-americans.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/30/peter-thiel-palantir-threat-to-americans

You’re a mental case.

LOL. I’m the opposite of a mental case because I don’t want my government to track me. I lived in China as an expat. You might be more worried. I’m sure you’ll want the last word here, so you can have it. 😘

Looky loo, a day after I posted this. A massive demonstration against Palantir in Georgetown. Your friends ARE saying the same thing I did.

https://www.threads.com/@nirvana_tylerrr/post/DNtyUUUZGGk?xmt=AQF01f9DyRcLupWRh8Xwih4BFe-oGbPlVW010MuE7dxUmA&slof=1

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Anonymous wrote:My niece, who graduated last year with a Computer Science degree from UVA's
School of Engineering and Applied Science, remains unemployed.

I know of several DoD sites in metro DC that have multiple BSCS openings they are trying to fill. They are taking the resumes sent to the civil service folks, filtering for candidates with relevant skills, then using body shop contractors to hire people (due to the civil service hiring freeze). I would suggest sending an unsolicited resume and cover letter to any such sites within your commute radius.

I also know of tech companies (outside govt sector) along Silver Line that are actively hiring new CS grads.

For different reasons, both of those groups of employers' first cut filters usually include whether the resume explicitly says "US Citizen". If anyone looking for work is a US Citizen and their resume does not say that, I would go edit the resume now. Putting it at the end of the resume is fine, but be explicit about this.

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Anonymous wrote:My niece, who graduated last year with a Computer Science degree from UVA's
School of Engineering and Applied Science, remains unemployed.

I know of several DoD sites in metro DC that have multiple BSCS openings they are trying to fill. They are taking the resumes sent to the civil service folks, filtering for candidates with relevant skills, then using body shop contractors to hire people (due to the civil service hiring freeze). I would suggest sending an unsolicited resume and cover letter to any such sites within your commute radius.

I also know of tech companies (outside govt sector) along Silver Line that are actively hiring new CS grads.

For different reasons, both of those groups of employers' first cut filters usually include whether the resume explicitly says "US Citizen". If anyone looking for work is a US Citizen and their resume does not say that, I would go edit the resume now. Putting it at the end of the resume is fine, but be explicit about this.

PP. Yes, the resume explicitly stated "US Citizen" in the first line of the resume.

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If people are venting, this thread maybe helps.

If people want job finding advice, then posting some specifics (in a new thread) in the Jobs forum might get more specific advice.

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Anonymous wrote:As a technical manager for a major federal contractor in the DMV, I am seeing first hand the challenges in the current entry-level
job market. We recently listed two cybersecurity positions with a salary of $105K/yr and received over 5,000 applications. The pool included a overwhelming number of highly qualified candidates from prestigious institutions such as UVA, Duke, UNC, CMU, UPenn, Michigan, and Northwestern.

Unfortunately, the final hiring decisions were made by internal referrals and connections. One candidate from GMU was hired because
a federal government director knows her father, and another from UNC was selected because the EVP of the company know his father.

This highlights a difficult reality for new graduates. My niece, who graduated last year with a Computer Science degree from UVA's
School of Engineering and Applied Science, remains unemployed.

Why could you not help your niece get one of those jobs? Did she not want that kind of CS work?

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Anonymous wrote:We’re a normal family with normal kids that go to normal schools. It’s a tough market and many people are struggling to find a job. DS is an engineering major and is still looking for a position after to applying to 100+ places. Carnegie Mellon CS grads aren’t an honest reflection of the economy.

Indeed, I’m the PP with the kid working at Whole Foods. My kid went to a good school, but not an amazing school and did internships but not at the kind of places where you really need to know someone important. That said, my kid also has a really great attitude about the whole situation because most of their friends are in the same boat. They’re all working in jobs that get their bills paid while they look for the jobs they want, and they’re not just sitting around waiting for life to hand them something.

Holy cow. What college did your kid go to? This is why I'm always confused as to why non-1% families (or families that don't have a lot of generational wealth or a trust fund set up for their kids) let their children burn $200k on an English degree from Vassar (to take an example from my next door neighbor). Like seriously, what is even going through your head? Your kid would've been WAY better off doing engineering at VA Tech.

Also, major YIKES at the fact that most of your kid's college friends are just "working in jobs that get their bills paid while they look for the jobs they want, and they’re not just sitting around waiting for life to hand them something" -- is this what really happens when you major in the humanities at a SLAC? Ridiculous. At least if your kid was an English major at a school like Stanford, they'd be able to leverage that into a consulting gig at BCG or whatnot.

English at Vassar to engineering at VT is a ridiculous jump. They probably would end up doing English at VT and have similar if not worse outcomes.

Holy smokes. What a stupid post. People who do English at Vassar likely end up making way more than people who do engineering at VT. Law school, anyone? I did English at a SLAC and the. Law school and I have consistently made over $1M per year for about 15 years. Take that Mr engineer.

According to Forbes, Average alumni salary at VT is higher than Vassar 10 years post grad; and VT is disadvantaged by being a much larger school.

It actually doesn’t track that the more prestigious your degree the more you get paid. Your major has a much more massive impact on lifetime earnings.

Not an apples to apples compare. Vassar has generational wealth - so many who graduate do not NEED high paying jobs - or jobs at all. I have met many stay at home parents who went to Vassar.