ECNL vs GA

[Anonymous]

This debate is only good for the entertainment value, but there are people that really believe this stuff. What's going on in your area and even at your age group in that area are really all that should matter to you. Things are always changing and the impending school year change is going to shift things again. Arlington boys joining MLS Next is also going to change things by sending their girls elsewhere. Sorry I couldn't help myself

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. An both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.

There are differences. Significant differences.

There are also ECNL-RL teams that can (and have) beaten GA teams. But I will not argue ECNL-RL is somehow equal to GA. ECNL-RL teams also get invited to ECNL showcases. But I will not argue ECNL-RL has equal exposure to GA. Stop putting out false narratives. ECNL and GA's exposure to college recruitment are not equal and not even close. Not yet.

I am one of those people who believes GA will overtake ECNL for girls. GA's affiliation to MLSN gives it that advantage. But this will not happen until the future, and none of us know how far in the future. Nor do we know if we are even correct in our prediction at all.

The last sentence (re-focus on your own player) I do agree with.

You can also state there are ECNL RL teams who beat ECNL teams, but ECNL hats are unwilling to share for self preservation reasons.

Top ECNL-RL teams frequently beat bottom ECNL teams. The parent who referenced GA teams that can beat ECNL teams probably also left out the details about top GA teams beating bottom ECNL teams.

“You can also state there are ECNL RL teams who beat ECNL teams”

Maybe nationally but not in this area.

it only occurs in showcases.. and yes local RL teams gave beaten ECNL teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This debate is only good for the entertainment value, but there are people that really believe this stuff. What's going on in your area and even at your age group in that area are really all that should matter to you. Things are always changing and the impending school year change is going to shift things again. Arlington boys joining MLS Next is also going to change things by sending their girls elsewhere. Sorry I couldn't help myself

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This debate is only good for the entertainment value, but there are people that really believe this stuff. What's going on in your area and even at your age group in that area are really all that should matter to you. Things are always changing and the impending school year change is going to shift things again. Arlington boys joining MLS Next is also going to change things by sending their girls elsewhere. Sorry I couldn't help myself

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This is not going to happen. It can't. They would lose almost all of their girls.

[Anonymous]

Why wouldn’t it happen? Arlington is here to turn a profit before anything else. Those girls leaving would quickly be replaced. The allure of parents being able to tell other adults that their DD plays for a major platform would be too much to resist. These same parents neither know nor do they care that Arlington doesn’t do well when it comes to developing kids.

Platform Platform Platform. That’s it! That’s all they want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This debate is only good for the entertainment value, but there are people that really believe this stuff. What's going on in your area and even at your age group in that area are really all that should matter to you. Things are always changing and the impending school year change is going to shift things again. Arlington boys joining MLS Next is also going to change things by sending their girls elsewhere. Sorry I couldn't help myself

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This is not going to happen. It can't. They would lose almost all of their girls.

No they wouldnt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This debate is only good for the entertainment value, but there are people that really believe this stuff. What's going on in your area and even at your age group in that area are really all that should matter to you. Things are always changing and the impending school year change is going to shift things again. Arlington boys joining MLS Next is also going to change things by sending their girls elsewhere. Sorry I couldn't help myself

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This is not going to happen. It can't. They would lose almost all of their girls.

its a half joke because folks thought it was going to get announced next season. It will just in 2 yrs instead of one. Arlington is bleeding boy players right now to MLSN and Academy. And no when there are no ECNL options it will have no impacts on girls side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The OP was asking about a U13 player. Like most have said, go with a club that is going to help her develop and love the game, and a club where she will want to continue to play soccer when she gets older. Worry about exposure, etc. (assuming that’s what she even wants to do and play for) when she’s U15and up. If you pick the wrong club and environment now, there could possibly be no U15 to worry about. Also, when you start to look into the leagues, look into the leadership and what the league stands for. There are a lot of good resource out there, including podcasts, where you can get a feel for what each prioritizes. But again, your focus should be on the club and coach, not the league.

Problem with today's soccer. Want the results now vs. when it matters. Teams next year for U15 have a pretty good surge of players that have been off the radar due to teams they have played for and are taken over positions on starting teams. The players who thought they had position locked now have parents scrambling to get them on another team.

There are some teams like Rochester who will only take new players to sit on the bench, so the girls who have been with the club a long time get to start and play most of the games it happened this year. New girls joined, and took starters spots. That didn’t last for long. Parents went to the director, and complained that they have been with the club for many years, and their kids deserved to start. Guess what, the next week, and rest of the season those kids were starting again, and getting most of the play time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The OP was asking about a U13 player. Like most have said, go with a club that is going to help her develop and love the game, and a club where she will want to continue to play soccer when she gets older. Worry about exposure, etc. (assuming that’s what she even wants to do and play for) when she’s U15and up. If you pick the wrong club and environment now, there could possibly be no U15 to worry about. Also, when you start to look into the leagues, look into the leadership and what the league stands for. There are a lot of good resource out there, including podcasts, where you can get a feel for what each prioritizes. But again, your focus should be on the club and coach, not the league.

Problem with today's soccer. Want the results now vs. when it matters. Teams next year for U15 have a pretty good surge of players that have been off the radar due to teams they have played for and are taken over positions on starting teams. The players who thought they had position locked now have parents scrambling to get them on another team.

There are some teams like Rochester who will only take new players to sit on the bench, so the girls who have been with the club a long time get to start and play most of the games it happened this year. New girls joined, and took starters spots. That didn’t last for long. Parents went to the director, and complained that they have been with the club for many years, and their kids deserved to start. Guess what, the next week, and rest of the season those kids were starting again, and getting most of the play time

Go cry about Rochester on the New York forums. Nobody cares about Rochester. They stink anyways.

[Anonymous]

Booms from NY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This debate is only good for the entertainment value, but there are people that really believe this stuff. What's going on in your area and even at your age group in that area are really all that should matter to you. Things are always changing and the impending school year change is going to shift things again. Arlington boys joining MLS Next is also going to change things by sending their girls elsewhere. Sorry I couldn't help myself

???

This is not going to happen. It can't. They would lose almost all of their girls.

its a half joke because folks thought it was going to get announced next season. It will just in 2 yrs instead of one. Arlington is bleeding boy players right now to MLSN and Academy. And no when there are no ECNL options it will have no impacts on girls side.

What a weird take - girls pay the same amount as boys, so if Arlington keeps ECNL and can field two ECNL teams, then you get even more girls ... who pay the same as boys.

So either it's all about the money, in which case Arlington to will do just fine because there are more girls wanting to play ECNL, or it's not about the money ad you just think boys are somehow more important than girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The OP was asking about a U13 player. Like most have said, go with a club that is going to help her develop and love the game, and a club where she will want to continue to play soccer when she gets older. Worry about exposure, etc. (assuming that’s what she even wants to do and play for) when she’s U15and up. If you pick the wrong club and environment now, there could possibly be no U15 to worry about. Also, when you start to look into the leagues, look into the leadership and what the league stands for. There are a lot of good resource out there, including podcasts, where you can get a feel for what each prioritizes. But again, your focus should be on the club and coach, not the league.

Problem with today's soccer. Want the results now vs. when it matters. Teams next year for U15 have a pretty good surge of players that have been off the radar due to teams they have played for and are taken over positions on starting teams. The players who thought they had position locked now have parents scrambling to get them on another team.

There are some teams like Rochester who will only take new players to sit on the bench, so the girls who have been with the club a long time get to start and play most of the games it happened this year. New girls joined, and took starters spots. That didn’t last for long. Parents went to the director, and complained that they have been with the club for many years, and their kids deserved to start. Guess what, the next week, and rest of the season those kids were starting again, and getting most of the play time

Go cry about Rochester on the New York forums. Nobody cares about Rochester. They stink anyways.

probably the same poster in the other thread - ECNL and GA are national platforms. Hence, this is a NATIONAL discussion not a DC discussion. I'll call you out every time you post this gate keeping stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This debate is only good for the entertainment value, but there are people that really believe this stuff. What's going on in your area and even at your age group in that area are really all that should matter to you. Things are always changing and the impending school year change is going to shift things again. Arlington boys joining MLS Next is also going to change things by sending their girls elsewhere. Sorry I couldn't help myself

???

This is not going to happen. It can't. They would lose almost all of their girls.

its a half joke because folks thought it was going to get announced next season. It will just in 2 yrs instead of one. Arlington is bleeding boy players right now to MLSN and Academy. And no when there are no ECNL options it will have no impacts on girls side.

What a weird take - girls pay the same amount as boys, so if Arlington keeps ECNL and can field two ECNL teams, then you get even more girls ... who pay the same as boys.

So either it's all about the money, in which case Arlington to will do just fine because there are more girls wanting to play ECNL, or it's not about the money ad you just think boys are somehow more important than girls.

Nobody thinks this just look at the cost balance sheet at any socccer club in any state across the nation. Boys are more profitable so yes unfortunately boys are somehow more important than girls in the pay to play soccer landscape. Wake the F up! Arlington will sell out girls ECNL to acquire Boys MSLN and thus GA. Deal with it while waking the F up! Not mad just irritated at the stupidity that never ends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This debate is only good for the entertainment value, but there are people that really believe this stuff. What's going on in your area and even at your age group in that area are really all that should matter to you. Things are always changing and the impending school year change is going to shift things again. Arlington boys joining MLS Next is also going to change things by sending their girls elsewhere. Sorry I couldn't help myself

???

This is not going to happen. It can't. They would lose almost all of their girls.

its a half joke because folks thought it was going to get announced next season. It will just in 2 yrs instead of one. Arlington is bleeding boy players right now to MLSN and Academy. And no when there are no ECNL options it will have no impacts on girls side.

What a weird take - girls pay the same amount as boys, so if Arlington keeps ECNL and can field two ECNL teams, then you get even more girls ... who pay the same as boys.

So either it's all about the money, in which case Arlington to will do just fine because there are more girls wanting to play ECNL, or it's not about the money ad you just think boys are somehow more important than girls.

Nobody thinks this just look at the cost balance sheet at any socccer club in any state across the nation. Boys are more profitable so yes unfortunately boys are somehow more important than girls in the pay to play soccer landscape. Wake the F up! Arlington will sell out girls ECNL to acquire Boys MSLN and thus GA. Deal with it while waking the F up! Not mad just irritated at the stupidity that never ends.

I have heard this argument and at the surface it makes sense. But doesnt this need to be a margin point? For example, do you make more margin with MLS Next than ECNL? I dont know, just curious. If the margin is the same across all leagues and if you can field 5 boys teams under MLSN (floating down to other leagues) and 5 boys teams under ECNL (floating down to other leagues), then are you actually making more money? You still have the same number of players and the same margin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This debate is only good for the entertainment value, but there are people that really believe this stuff. What's going on in your area and even at your age group in that area are really all that should matter to you. Things are always changing and the impending school year change is going to shift things again. Arlington boys joining MLS Next is also going to change things by sending their girls elsewhere. Sorry I couldn't help myself

???

This is not going to happen. It can't. They would lose almost all of their girls.

its a half joke because folks thought it was going to get announced next season. It will just in 2 yrs instead of one. Arlington is bleeding boy players right now to MLSN and Academy. And no when there are no ECNL options it will have no impacts on girls side.

What a weird take - girls pay the same amount as boys, so if Arlington keeps ECNL and can field two ECNL teams, then you get even more girls ... who pay the same as boys.

So either it's all about the money, in which case Arlington to will do just fine because there are more girls wanting to play ECNL, or it's not about the money ad you just think boys are somehow more important than girls.

Nobody thinks this just look at the cost balance sheet at any socccer club in any state across the nation. Boys are more profitable so yes unfortunately boys are somehow more important than girls in the pay to play soccer landscape. Wake the F up! Arlington will sell out girls ECNL to acquire Boys MSLN and thus GA. Deal with it while waking the F up! Not mad just irritated at the stupidity that never ends.

The primary motivator for all of these clubs is their balance sheet?