Unvaxxed child in Texas just died of the measles

[Anonymous]

It’s amazing how many treasonous traitors there are and even more incredulous that they’re all in charge now. The worst is how so many people support them because they are traitors themselves too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Retired infectious disease doctor here, who has never personally seen a case of measles. The news of the measles outbreak and death of a child is a failure for public health. In 1983, measles was nearly eradicated, but due to funding cuts to immunization programs, it survived.

In 1991, the courts ordered the vaccination of children when their fundamentalist Christian parents refused during an outbreak in Philadelphia. In 2019, an outbreak in Brooklyn among a Hasidic Jewish community resulted in court orders. I doubt the same will happen this time.

If you are reading this thread, you have likely vaccinated your kids, but on the radar of yet another thing to worry about is polio. RFK Jr has spouted some nonsense about polio vaccines in the past. A person in NY got vaccine derived polio, which happens when an unvaccinated person picks up a harmless strain from the poop of a vaccinated person, and that harmless strain of polio bounces around from unvaccinated person to unvaccinated person until it mutates and can infect unvaccinated people. Even better, the original wild type polio is still infecting people in Afghanistan. I need a glass of wine. I think this administration will help unwind so many years of progress in immunizations in the U.S.

Everyone please update and don't get behind on your polio and measles vaccines please for your own good - before RFK Jr (the "junior" is key) takes it away in favor of wild boar pellets or some ineffective woo woo "apple cider vinegar netflix series" nonsense.

Take care and be safe out there.

Get behind? Isn't it just one vaccine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Retired infectious disease doctor here, who has never personally seen a case of measles. The news of the measles outbreak and death of a child is a failure for public health. In 1983, measles was nearly eradicated, but due to funding cuts to immunization programs, it survived.

In 1991, the courts ordered the vaccination of children when their fundamentalist Christian parents refused during an outbreak in Philadelphia. In 2019, an outbreak in Brooklyn among a Hasidic Jewish community resulted in court orders. I doubt the same will happen this time.

If you are reading this thread, you have likely vaccinated your kids, but on the radar of yet another thing to worry about is polio. RFK Jr has spouted some nonsense about polio vaccines in the past. A person in NY got vaccine derived polio, which happens when an unvaccinated person picks up a harmless strain from the poop of a vaccinated person, and that harmless strain of polio bounces around from unvaccinated person to unvaccinated person until it mutates and can infect unvaccinated people. Even better, the original wild type polio is still infecting people in Afghanistan. I need a glass of wine. I think this administration will help unwind so many years of progress in immunizations in the U.S.

Everyone please update and don't get behind on your polio and measles vaccines please for your own good - before RFK Jr (the "junior" is key) takes it away in favor of wild boar pellets or some ineffective woo woo "apple cider vinegar netflix series" nonsense.

Take care and be safe out there.

Get behind? Isn't it just one vaccine?

It’s now recommended that people born in the 50s and 60s who were vaccinated get a booster. Actual dates are earlier in the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:can we pass a personhood bill for children? Don't they deserve medical care?

Yes, if people don't get vaxxed, they should be ineligible for any insurance coverage. They're too much of a risk from communicable diseases in hospitals, schools, and doctor's offices. Sure, you can have the freedom not to vax. No one said you had an inalienable right to force a risk pool to cover your stupid choice though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

When I was a child (and I'm very old), everyone got the measles. I remember throwing up a lot, but it was over in a few days, just like any other virus. My kids got viruses like that, and they survived them.

I'm 58 and yes, kids got the measles. I don't think it was like a stomach bug though. Throwing up is really not a symptom. YOu might be remembering a different disease.

It was a high fever, rash, malaise, and sometimes pneumonia. Kids could get really sick and parents were thrilled when there was finally a vaccine. NOt every child ended up in the hospital of course, but many did.

Except measles can hide inside your brain, moron. If it does and come back when you're an adult, it is basically 100% fatal.

You are so stupid and don't even know it. Getti measles is never good and never just a case of a rash an unpleasantness. It can kill you years later with horrific neurodegeneration.

[Anonymous]

Kentucky confirms measles exposure at Planet Fitness in Frankfort.

An infected adult who recently traveled to a measles outbreak area visited the gym while contagious.

Measles will run roughshod through red areas where unvaccinated idiots rule the roost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Retired infectious disease doctor here, who has never personally seen a case of measles. The news of the measles outbreak and death of a child is a failure for public health. In 1983, measles was nearly eradicated, but due to funding cuts to immunization programs, it survived.

In 1991, the courts ordered the vaccination of children when their fundamentalist Christian parents refused during an outbreak in Philadelphia. In 2019, an outbreak in Brooklyn among a Hasidic Jewish community resulted in court orders. I doubt the same will happen this time.

If you are reading this thread, you have likely vaccinated your kids, but on the radar of yet another thing to worry about is polio. RFK Jr has spouted some nonsense about polio vaccines in the past. A person in NY got vaccine derived polio, which happens when an unvaccinated person picks up a harmless strain from the poop of a vaccinated person, and that harmless strain of polio bounces around from unvaccinated person to unvaccinated person until it mutates and can infect unvaccinated people. Even better, the original wild type polio is still infecting people in Afghanistan. I need a glass of wine. I think this administration will help unwind so many years of progress in immunizations in the U.S.

The largest outbreak of measles in the US in the recent past was in 2019 - 1249 cases - approximately 10% of the cases were in this who were vaccinated.

Many people over the age of 70 are not vaccinated bc it is believed they would have natural immunity at least that is what the CDC said - maybe they have changed their mind? And back in 2011 another year with large outbreaks , there were calls for adults to get a measles booster and it floated around again 2019 and no doubt will begin again.

Sad fact - last year the CDC stats show that approximately 30 people died of chicken pox. It wasn’t an anomaly. People die in the US each year of infectious diseases, it just doesn’t make the news.

PP. I’ve had that glass of wine. If you are curious about your measles status, you can get a titer drawn, as several PP’s have noted already. A titer was mandatory when I was in med school, and out of a class of 150+, we all passed, thanks to MMR.

Measles is the overachiever when it comes to Hollywood style infectiousness. The R0, or R not, is a measure of infectiousness, and tells you how many community infections will result from a single case. The common cold R0 is 2-3. Flu is 1-2. Covid is 2-4. Measles is 12-18. Norovirus is only around 3-4 or so, so that should tell you something about the contagious power of measles.

The only other disease that comes close is pertussis, or whooping cough, and no surprise, that is also starting to come back.

Now that the cdc is being muzzled, it is up to our excellent and hardworking local health departments of towns, counties, and states to pick up the slack. Thank you to all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kentucky confirms measles exposure at Planet Fitness in Frankfort.

An infected adult who recently traveled to a measles outbreak area visited the gym while contagious.

Measles will run roughshod through red areas where unvaccinated idiots rule the roost.

Remember when we were all scared that COVID virus could live on surfaces and we disinfected our groceries and wore gloves everywhere? Well, we found out it couldn't live on surfaces (or not for long enough to really be a risk) and then we felt sort of silly.

Guess what virus can live on surfaces and in the air for two hours?

Sigh, this is going to be a wild ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Retired infectious disease doctor here, who has never personally seen a case of measles. The news of the measles outbreak and death of a child is a failure for public health. In 1983, measles was nearly eradicated, but due to funding cuts to immunization programs, it survived.

In 1991, the courts ordered the vaccination of children when their fundamentalist Christian parents refused during an outbreak in Philadelphia. In 2019, an outbreak in Brooklyn among a Hasidic Jewish community resulted in court orders. I doubt the same will happen this time.

If you are reading this thread, you have likely vaccinated your kids, but on the radar of yet another thing to worry about is polio. RFK Jr has spouted some nonsense about polio vaccines in the past. A person in NY got vaccine derived polio, which happens when an unvaccinated person picks up a harmless strain from the poop of a vaccinated person, and that harmless strain of polio bounces around from unvaccinated person to unvaccinated person until it mutates and can infect unvaccinated people. Even better, the original wild type polio is still infecting people in Afghanistan. I need a glass of wine. I think this administration will help unwind so many years of progress in immunizations in the U.S.

The largest outbreak of measles in the US in the recent past was in 2019 - 1249 cases - approximately 10% of the cases were in this who were vaccinated.

Many people over the age of 70 are not vaccinated bc it is believed they would have natural immunity at least that is what the CDC said - maybe they have changed their mind? And back in 2011 another year with large outbreaks , there were calls for adults to get a measles booster and it floated around again 2019 and no doubt will begin again.

Sad fact - last year the CDC stats show that approximately 30 people died of chicken pox. It wasn’t an anomaly. People die in the US each year of infectious diseases, it just doesn’t make the news.

PP. I’ve had that glass of wine. If you are curious about your measles status, you can get a titer drawn, as several PP’s have noted already. A titer was mandatory when I was in med school, and out of a class of 150+, we all passed, thanks to MMR.

Measles is the overachiever when it comes to Hollywood style infectiousness. The R0, or R not, is a measure of infectiousness, and tells you how many community infections will result from a single case. The common cold R0 is 2-3. Flu is 1-2. Covid is 2-4. Measles is 12-18. Norovirus is only around 3-4 or so, so that should tell you something about the contagious power of measles.

The only other disease that comes close is pertussis, or whooping cough, and no surprise, that is also starting to come back.

Now that the cdc is being muzzled, it is up to our excellent and hardworking local health departments of towns, counties, and states to pick up the slack. Thank you to all of them.

It’s “r naught,” Doc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kentucky confirms measles exposure at Planet Fitness in Frankfort.

An infected adult who recently traveled to a measles outbreak area visited the gym while contagious.

Measles will run roughshod through red areas where unvaccinated idiots rule the roost.

Remember when we were all scared that COVID virus could live on surfaces and we disinfected our groceries and wore gloves everywhere? Well, we found out it couldn't live on surfaces (or not for long enough to really be a risk) and then we felt sort of silly.

Guess what virus can live on surfaces and in the air for two hours?

Sigh, this is going to be a wild ride.

This. Make sure your household is up to date on measles vaccines everybody..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kentucky confirms measles exposure at Planet Fitness in Frankfort.

An infected adult who recently traveled to a measles outbreak area visited the gym while contagious.

Measles will run roughshod through red areas where unvaccinated idiots rule the roost.

Remember when we were all scared that COVID virus could live on surfaces and we disinfected our groceries and wore gloves everywhere? Well, we found out it couldn't live on surfaces (or not for long enough to really be a risk) and then we felt sort of silly.

Guess what virus can live on surfaces and in the air for two hours?

Sigh, this is going to be a wild ride.

This. Make sure your household is up to date on measles vaccines everybody..

I got a booster today, mostly due to mumps risk which waves in most people by adulthood.
While I was waiting, I saw the news story about vax-resistant parents dragging their unvaccinated children in for vaccines. These diseases are frightening. It’s a terrible shame to let innocent children suffer.

[Anonymous]

I can’t get a MMR booster, and relying on those around me to be vaxxed is terrifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m furious at the brazenness of his dangerous lies.

In any other normal administration, the HHS secretary would have used this opportunity to stress that we have a safe and effective vaccine for measles and urge Americans to vaccinate. It boggles the mind that this ahole is like “totes normal, bygones” in addition to getting the basic information wrong. Almost makes me want to use the R word that the right wingers love so much.

[Anonymous]

Watch MAGA be proud when their skin is covered in a bright red rash, look it matches their hat!

[Anonymous]

This is sad. At the same time, this is what the parents wanted to have happen since they did not vaccinate their child.

They will probably say it was God's will. But God gave humans brains to invent and use vaccinations.

Why they won't use the brain God gave them is the real question.