Elon is coming for social security

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody looking at these numbers for more than 10 min with a critical thinking hat on should know these are just the number of SS accounts currently active. But Elon misrepresents this as the number of people in each age bracket who are currently receiving payments, so everyone in the comments and even Faux News is OMG there's massive fraud!

However, OIG already did a report on this several years ago in which they concluded the cost associated with marking the dead people as dead was cost prohibitive as only a few age 100+ were actually receiving any benefits. The people in question either died decades ago and were not reported, or had been issued multiple SS numbers and only one was marked as deceased.

https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf

Wait, what? The cost of correcting a DATA TABLE is 'cost prohibitive'? What kind of Rube Goldberg machine are they running over there!

I'm beginning to understand the other thing Musk tweeted:

"The logic flow diagram for the Social Security system looks INSANE. No one person actually knows how it works. The payment files that move between Social Security and Treasury have significant inconsistencies that are not reconciled. It’s wild," Musk declared in a post on X.

I don't work there but my impression from the OIG report was that people would have to go in individually to each file to mark someone dead. That pulls that person off other projects and costs money to pay them. Like others have said, Elon should probably take a moment to learn how the system operates before declaring mass fraud.

I hate Elon, but why is this though? I read the report and drew the same conclusion, but it just seems odd that they cannot do a blanket code fix. I am not a programmer though.

The problem is that you can’t just write a script to fix code, you need to validate millions of pieces of underlying data, so you don’t mark Nana as dead when she is not.

Yes, this would involved human verification for millions records. Easily thousands of employees if you want to do this over a short-time period.

Every SS# with a dob >110 years old doesn't need to be validated, a blanket code fix can remove all these people. The 25 vampires who are still alive can file a claim. 15+ million records corrected. Problem partially solved. Bonus - people illegally using SS#s identified.

Doesn't understand archaic computer code. Sad.

Do tell

DP - I don’t personally understand but posters on Reddit are saying they don’t know how to set up the queries in COBOL correctly.

Also read that the OIG investigated this issue recently and confirmed that only 44K citizens over age 100 are currently receiving SS payments, which is in line with expectations.

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There are about 101,000 people in the US 100 years old and over.

In December 2024, 89,106 people 99 and older received Social Security benefits.

There's no massive fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:There are about 101,000 people in the US 100 years old and over.

In December 2024, 89,106 people 99 and older received Social Security benefits.

There's no massive fraud.

Leon lies about everything.

[Anonymous]

Yes, he's lying, but why? either he think we all incredibly stupid, or he playing to a crowd he knows is incredibly stupid enough to believe him. Then what? they need this gang to back them up for the things they are planning to do, for that they need to keep fueling the fire. The country be damned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s laying the groundwork to halt social security checks with a new conspiracy that tens of millions of beneficiaries are actually dead:

Hey Boomer -- Social Security uses direct deposit, not checks. Do keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, he's lying, but why? either he think we all incredibly stupid, or he playing to a crowd he knows is incredibly stupid enough to believe him. Then what? they need this gang to back them up for the things they are planning to do, for that they need to keep fueling the fire. The country be damned.

It's entirely designed to rile low information voters. And get them to keep believing the lies, so they move fast and break things.

Hopefully Elon is rational enough to be honest when he finds out all this money he's looking for just isn't there.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s laying the groundwork to halt social security checks with a new conspiracy that tens of millions of beneficiaries are actually dead:

Hey Boomer -- Social Security uses direct deposit, not checks. Do keep up.

Which is even scarier - the government can and will claw it back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, he's lying, but why? either he think we all incredibly stupid, or he playing to a crowd he knows is incredibly stupid enough to believe him. Then what? they need this gang to back them up for the things they are planning to do, for that they need to keep fueling the fire. The country be damned.

the bolded, so the rubes get angry at the "libs" calling out elon and the white house for these unprecedented actions. They are destroying what makes our country great under the cloak of lies.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, he's lying, but why? either he think we all incredibly stupid, or he playing to a crowd he knows is incredibly stupid enough to believe him. Then what? they need this gang to back them up for the things they are planning to do, for that they need to keep fueling the fire. The country be damned.

It's entirely designed to rile low information voters. And get them to keep believing the lies, so they move fast and break things.

Hopefully Elon is rational enough to be honest when he finds out all this money he's looking for just isn't there.

LOL, they will never admit their lies, be real.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, he's lying, but why? either he think we all incredibly stupid, or he playing to a crowd he knows is incredibly stupid enough to believe him. Then what? they need this gang to back them up for the things they are planning to do, for that they need to keep fueling the fire. The country be damned.

Ever see a matador work a bull?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, he's lying, but why? either he think we all incredibly stupid, or he playing to a crowd he knows is incredibly stupid enough to believe him. Then what? they need this gang to back them up for the things they are planning to do, for that they need to keep fueling the fire. The country be damned.

Ever see a matador work a bull?

I smile a bit when the matador gets gored.

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All I know is that Trump sent my dead mother two stimulus payments. We didn’t try to cash them but I bet some people did.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent! Turn off the spigot for all those Boomers that voted this insanity into office! By all means, give them what they voted for.

You can F*** right off. I paid into SS my whole adult life and I DID NOT vote for Trump/Elon.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent! Turn off the spigot for all those Boomers that voted this insanity into office! By all means, give them what they voted for.

You can F*** right off. I paid into SS my whole adult life and I DID NOT vote for Trump/Elon.

DP...the only way this gets turned around is if Elon oversteps and people revolt.

[Anonymous]

I cant think of a bigger issue that screwed Ds than illegals. If D's had enough money to buy their traditional voters, then allowing the 8-10 million illegals may have worked well for them - give handouts to those voters amd buy them too. But instead the illegals took resources from the groups D's used to buy and D's said for awhile, who cares and by the time they realized they were about to lose the support of those voters they thought they could count on it was too late.