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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anybody looking at these numbers for more than 10 min with a critical thinking hat on should know these are just the number of SS accounts currently active. But Elon misrepresents this as the number of people in each age bracket who are currently receiving payments, so everyone in the comments and even Faux News is OMG there's massive fraud!

However, OIG already did a report on this several years ago in which [b]they concluded the cost associated with marking the dead people as dead was cost prohibitive[/b] as only a few age 100+ were actually receiving any benefits. The people in question either died decades ago and were not reported, or had been issued multiple SS numbers and only one was marked as deceased.

https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf[/quote]Wait, what? The cost of correcting a DATA TABLE is 'cost prohibitive'? What kind of Rube Goldberg machine are they running over there!

I'm beginning to understand the other thing Musk tweeted:

"The logic flow diagram for the Social Security system looks INSANE. No one person actually knows how it works. The payment files that move between Social Security and Treasury have significant inconsistencies that are not reconciled. It’s wild," Musk declared in a post on X.
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I don't work there but my impression from the OIG report was that people would have to go in individually to each file to mark someone dead. That pulls that person off other projects and costs money to pay them. Like others have said, Elon should probably take a moment to learn how the system operates before declaring mass fraud. [/quote]

I hate Elon, but why is this though? I read the report and drew the same conclusion, but it just seems odd that they cannot do a blanket code fix. I am not a programmer though. [/quote]

The problem is that you can’t just write a script to fix code,  you need to validate millions of pieces of underlying data, so you don’t mark Nana as dead when she is not. [/quote]

Yes, this would involved human verification for millions records. Easily thousands of employees if you want to do this over a short-time period. [/quote]

Every SS# with a dob >110 years old doesn't need to be validated, a blanket code fix can remove all these people. The 25 vampires who are still alive can file a claim. 15+ million records corrected. Problem partially solved.  Bonus - people illegally using SS#s identified.[/quote]

Doesn't understand archaic computer code. Sad.[/quote]

Do tell[/quote]

DP - I don’t personally understand but posters on Reddit are saying they don’t know how to set up the queries in COBOL correctly.

Also read that the OIG investigated this issue recently and confirmed that only 44K citizens over age 100 are currently receiving SS payments, which is in line with expectations. [/quote]

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