Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much misinformation in this thread.

Maybe reading about this fire can help some of you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Fire

And if you think no one should live where there is a natural disaster what are you going to do with all the red states full of tornadoes and hurricanes? Plus, thanks to your fracking Oklahoma now has earthquakes? No place is safe from natural disasters. It’s amazing how when tragedy strikes in a red state you people are all “we’ve got to help these people!” And when it’s a blue state, you’re just full of hate and blame and absolutely stupid, uninformed takes about why things happen or how they should be handled.

I'm in Florida and see the opposite here constantly actually, even people actively wishing ill on Florida during hurricane season. So I think you are deeply mistaken. And anyone who actually lives in a natural disaster area has empathy and good thoughts only for CA residents dealing with fires right now, because we get how terrifying it is!

Please. There is so much nastiness and blame in this thread and all kinds of cries about how CA is being punished for SIN! all over MAGA sites.

I don't read MAGA sites, but this really isn't one...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s now a new fire above Altadena threatening Mount Wilson observatory. Wtf is going on? Just sprouted in last 30 minutes

30-40 mph winds in very dry conditions. (PP who cited climate change is correct)

Winds in some areas are near 100 mph

[Anonymous]

My daughter just posted the smoke in air (she lives between the 2 big fires). Horrifying!! The air quality is bad which also affects the populace. Thankful for the firefighters and the shelters.

[Anonymous]

If you’re whining about hydrants and water you are completely ignorant. Go look up slurry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t fire mitigation systems installed as part of the public works systems, developments or private homes? Large water guns to create a barrier or cover a neighborhood?

jfc. Can we all agree to ignore these posts? The stupidity is overwhelming.

Yeah it’s so stupid other countries use it.

https://www.wired.com/story/spanish-wildfire-defenses/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much misinformation in this thread.

Maybe reading about this fire can help some of you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Fire

And if you think no one should live where there is a natural disaster what are you going to do with all the red states full of tornadoes and hurricanes? Plus, thanks to your fracking Oklahoma now has earthquakes? No place is safe from natural disasters. It’s amazing how when tragedy strikes in a red state you people are all “we’ve got to help these people!” And when it’s a blue state, you’re just full of hate and blame and absolutely stupid, uninformed takes about why things happen or how they should be handled.

I'm in Florida and see the opposite here constantly actually, even people actively wishing ill on Florida during hurricane season. So I think you are deeply mistaken. And anyone who actually lives in a natural disaster area has empathy and good thoughts only for CA residents dealing with fires right now, because we get how terrifying it is!

Please. There is so much nastiness and blame in this thread and all kinds of cries about how CA is being punished for SIN! all over MAGA sites.

I don't read MAGA sites, but this really isn't one...

It’s leaning that way more and more

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t fire mitigation systems installed as part of the public works systems, developments or private homes? Large water guns to create a barrier or cover a neighborhood?

jfc. Can we all agree to ignore these posts? The stupidity is overwhelming.

Yeah it’s so stupid other countries use it.

https://www.wired.com/story/spanish-wildfire-defenses/

And here

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/on-your-side-home-sprinkler-system-offers-protection-from-wildfires/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t fire mitigation systems installed as part of the public works systems, developments or private homes? Large water guns to create a barrier or cover a neighborhood?

jfc. Can we all agree to ignore these posts? The stupidity is overwhelming.

Yeah it’s so stupid other countries use it.

https://www.wired.com/story/spanish-wildfire-defenses/

And here

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/on-your-side-home-sprinkler-system-offers-protection-from-wildfires/

Oh and recommend here
https://californiachaparral.org/fire/protecting-your-home/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t fire mitigation systems installed as part of the public works systems, developments or private homes? Large water guns to create a barrier or cover a neighborhood?

jfc. Can we all agree to ignore these posts? The stupidity is overwhelming.

How is this stupid? If wild fires are an inherent risk to the region why wouldn’t taking measures to mitigate damage be smart? These systems actually do exist, just because you don’t know about them doesn’t mean it’s some hairbrain idea. I don’t understand what your position is? Do you have any ideas? Controlled burns, fire barriers there are a plethora of options why can’t this also be one?

The issue is you. You think you are the smartest person here and that no one has ever thought about fire mitigation. Only you. No one else ever has or is. Only you. It's all about you. Go away and go learn before you come take over a discussion with your self centered idiocy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t fire mitigation systems installed as part of the public works systems, developments or private homes? Large water guns to create a barrier or cover a neighborhood?

jfc. Can we all agree to ignore these posts? The stupidity is overwhelming.

Yeah it’s so stupid other countries use it.

https://www.wired.com/story/spanish-wildfire-defenses/

Not sure it would be effective in the face of huge winds, and considering how many of these sprinklets LA would need since so much of the residential areas borders nature. You really cannot compare that to a tiny village's set up with 40 towers. LA would need thousands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sadly a major insurance carrier dropped all fire coverage in the area several months ago. Many of these folks are losing everything. It’s a real tragedy.

This!! MIL coverage dropped last month. She owns house outright but no fire coverage now and she’s in Ventura county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s now a new fire above Altadena threatening Mount Wilson observatory. Wtf is going on? Just sprouted in last 30 minutes

Hurricane force winds in a dry, desert like area. What is it that you do not get?

Do people not how drought and dry areas can create fires easily? We've been in drought in Loudoun for years. A home caught fire because of mulch stored under a deck. It was so hot, it caught fire. People died in a fire when someone threw a cigarette that hadn't been entirely extinguished into a mulch bed near a home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.

This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

No. They will remain single family homes. People rebuild. There’s no way pacific palisades, Malibu or anywhere near the Ocean front will be anything less than multimillion dollar property. This will not affect anything. These people love their lifestyle and paradise there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t fire mitigation systems installed as part of the public works systems, developments or private homes? Large water guns to create a barrier or cover a neighborhood?

jfc. Can we all agree to ignore these posts? The stupidity is overwhelming.

Yeah it’s so stupid other countries use it.

https://www.wired.com/story/spanish-wildfire-defenses/

Not sure it would be effective in the face of huge winds, and considering how many of these sprinklets LA would need since so much of the residential areas borders nature. You really cannot compare that to a tiny village's set up with 40 towers. LA would need thousands.

Damp surfaces put out the embers carried by wind, it’s not a wall of fire moving through the area. Water on roofs and yards would go a long way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the hydrants are dry and water bombing won't work due to winds (although I did see them scooping from the ocean yesterday), can they pump in water from the ocean? I mean it seems kind of wild that there is a lack of water when there is a literal ocean across the street. Maybe they don't have the tech now but seems like investing in some sort of emergency pump system directly from the ocean for firefighting might be something worth looking into.

At the very least I imagine they should be able to fill tanker trucks with ocean water?

Please go the f away. Go read and learn. You are seriously saying there is a "literal ocean across the street"? I hope you don't teach and no one has to work with you.

I am sorry I didn't mean to be offensive. I know that firefighting takes a number of factors and counter measures especially when this big. I don't see why it is that crazy to point out a large body of water so close to a massive fire and how it's frustrating that we can't find a way to more effectively fight a fire that has water so close. I am not saying this would solve all the problems. Anyway, apologies again. I didn't mean to make anyone upset. I have spent a lot of time in that area and truly love it so this is heart breaking.