Is silver spring a decent place to live?

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You are talking complete nonsense. Rockville is one of the safest areas in MoCo.

ya, keep on telling yourself that.

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Anonymous wrote:Many nice neighborhoods have been mentioned in this string. As for DTSS? Nope. Not nearby or an amenity IMO.

My son and I used to eat in DTSS nearly every weekend for years. We always parked in this garage. No more. Have not been back since.

Family Pleads for Answers as Man's Killing in Silver Spring Parking Garage Goes Unsolved.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/family-pleads-for-answers-as-mans-killing-in-silver-spring-parking-garage-goes-unsolved/3340528/

And then the shootout in DT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtRESki13YY

On the other hand, I see that robbers were in the Bethesda Target recently, so there's that.
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=46205

If you're so obsessed with unsolved murders, then I'm sure this one in Arlington will be of interest to you also. (Or maybe not, since you only care about trashing Silver Spring): https://www.arlnow.com/2024/02/20/four-years-after-unsolved-ballston-murder-no-new-details-from-police/

And in terms of shootouts, how about three teens being shot on Halloween, again in Arlington: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/3-shot-on-columbia-pike-in-arlington-on-halloween-night/3756138/

And armed robberies, well those are sadly common throughout the DMV. Here's one in Arlington where one person was shot and a bystander just missed getting shot: https://wjla.com/news/local/person-shot-robbed-suspects-run-off-bystander-survived-coffee-shop-ballston-arlington-county-police-department-investigation-gun-violence-gunshot-wounds-dmv-crime

I really have no idea why people on here are so obsessed about trashing SS and acting like they live in areas that are free of crime. My theory is that people just want to defend having paid so much money to live in their high-priced areas that are not any safer than SS.

Don’t act like SS isn’t far shittier than Arlington and then turn around and say that other postere are defensive. Makes it impossible to take you seriously.

Just because you dislike SS and insist on making every crime in SS worthy of ten posts on DCUM, that does not make your dislike justified, especially as you ignore all the comparable crime happening elsewhere. I hope you've found what you're looking for in NoVA, but for anyone who wants a safe area that is full of great people and wonderful neighborhoods, SS is an excellent choice.

I don’t live in NoVa — I’m a city guy, so I couldn’t live in NoVA or MoCo given the choice. I’m very happy in DC.

That being said — I enjoy real estate and I try to see the world for what it is. The reality is SS, and MoCo broadly speaking, is on a bad trajectory. NoVa is far nicer, and more dynamic. MoCo doesn’t really have job centers, and the activity that brings such as young people and financial growth. NoVa has tysons, pentagon city, and clarendon — massive growth in all three. The closest thing MoCo has is Bethesda — a bedroom community with no jobs except for a few names such as Mariott, no young people or night life, etc.

Silver Spring is nothing like Bethesda. It is a mess — read this article:

https://www.bisnow.com/washington-dc/news/office/nobody-there-how-silver-springs-downtown-district-has-become-stuck-in-the-past-125071

Arlington is a complete disaster right now:
-- Arlington has abandoned or delayed most of HQ2
-- Boeing is in the midst of massive layoffs
-- Office vacancies are at historic highs (https://www.arlingtonmagazine.com/office-vacancy-crisis-taxes-arlington-virginia/) -- this is creating a revenue crisis that will force unprecedented tax increases in the years to come
-- As noted above, Arlington's own police departments has acknowledged that Arlington crime is getting worse and that Arlington is on a negative trajectory with respect to crime
-- Arlington's apartment vacancies are rising, such that Arlington is planning to give illegal immigrants free housing (https://www.arlnow.com/2024/03/04/arlington-considers-removing-immigration-status-requirements-for-low-income-housing-grants/)

If you're not familiar with MoCo job centers, it's because you're not paying attention. Moco has tons of pharmaceutical companies (it's in the top 3 in the nation for pharma), as well as lots of tech companies. You can start educating yourself here:
https://thinkmoco.com/key-industries/
https://mocoshow.com/2024/08/18/maryland-has-116-companies-on-national-2024-inc-5000-list/

This is very true. Moved out of SS a while back and in Fairfax now. You get what you pay for.

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You are talking complete nonsense. Rockville is one of the safest areas in MoCo.

This is true. I leave my door unlocked when I go run errands and at night when I go to sleep sometimes. I simply forget. My neighbors will leave their door literally open lol

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You are talking complete nonsense. Rockville is one of the safest areas in MoCo.

ya, keep on telling yourself that.

You’re just looking more foolish with each post.

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You must be thinking of the other side of the red line, with Glenmont and Wheaton. The eastern side of Rockville like Aspen Hill, touching the silver spring border is the more working class segment. Twinbrook is kinda sleepy and Rockville town center is very safe. Shady grove (and Derwood by extension) is very sleepy, not much happening. It gets “sketch” around Montgomery Village, which is much north of shady grove station.

In fact, most of the “action” has actually happened by pike and rose, where’s there’s lot of foot traffic

No one wants to live in Rockville. Definitely stay away. Definitely live in Bethesda.

I’ve always liked Rockville. Especially those houses around the courthouse area that look like the same style of houses in a lot of Takoma park, Victorian I guess? Anyway a lot of Rockville is also walkable and SS is more walkable than anywhere in DC I’ve lived except Columbia Heights which though walkable I wouldn’t do it at night no matter how gentrified it is

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You are talking complete nonsense. Rockville is one of the safest areas in MoCo.

This is true. I leave my door unlocked when I go run errands and at night when I go to sleep sometimes. I simply forget. My neighbors will leave their door literally open lol

No one should be looking at homes in the Rockville area. They’ll lose all their money when their house value falls to zero because of how unsafe it is.

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You must be thinking of the other side of the red line, with Glenmont and Wheaton. The eastern side of Rockville like Aspen Hill, touching the silver spring border is the more working class segment. Twinbrook is kinda sleepy and Rockville town center is very safe. Shady grove (and Derwood by extension) is very sleepy, not much happening. It gets “sketch” around Montgomery Village, which is much north of shady grove station.

In fact, most of the “action” has actually happened by pike and rose, where’s there’s lot of foot traffic

No one wants to live in Rockville. Definitely stay away. Definitely live in Bethesda.

I’ve always liked Rockville. Especially those houses around the courthouse area that look like the same style of houses in a lot of Takoma park, Victorian I guess? Anyway a lot of Rockville is also walkable and SS is more walkable than anywhere in DC I’ve lived except Columbia Heights which though walkable I wouldn’t do it at night no matter how gentrified it is

Around the courthouse is full of crime. Don’t buy a house there.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know too much about MD but wondering if you all have some insight on sliver spring and if its a nice place to live (clean and low crime).

RUN. Run fast, and run far.

Silver Spring is a hotbed for crime, litter, and general crumminess. DH and I thought Maryland was just in general a scuzzy place to live until we ventured out of the Silver Spring areas and found the nicer areas (Potomac, North Bethesda, North Potomac, Frederick County etc). Even much of Gaithersburg/Germantown is way nicer.

“Silver Spring” does encompass a large area, however pretty much all of the areas it covers are high crime and gritty. Aspen Hill and the surrounding area is gritty. White Oak is gritty. Downtown Silver Spring has seen many homicides in the past few years - there was a famous one recently about a guy getting shot in a parking garage while minding his own business, so it’s not limited to gang related violence. The Wheaton/Glenmont area is a gross mess. I’ve lived in all these places except downtown Silver Spring, and they are awful. Even whenever DH’s family came to help us move they always commented on how the area was a trash hole. Truthfully, we only lived in these areas to save up for a house, and moving out was the biggest breath of fresh air ever.

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You must be thinking of the other side of the red line, with Glenmont and Wheaton. The eastern side of Rockville like Aspen Hill, touching the silver spring border is the more working class segment. Twinbrook is kinda sleepy and Rockville town center is very safe. Shady grove (and Derwood by extension) is very sleepy, not much happening. It gets “sketch” around Montgomery Village, which is much north of shady grove station.

In fact, most of the “action” has actually happened by pike and rose, where’s there’s lot of foot traffic

No one wants to live in Rockville. Definitely stay away. Definitely live in Bethesda.

I didn’t ask if people “want” to live in Rockville. I asked about price appreciation. If people can’t afford Bethesda, where are they naturally going to look? My first thought was a couple stops up the red line

It’s a bad area, tons of crime. If you buy there you’ll lose money. Don’t look there.

At least it's not the crime-ridden area known as Clarendon in Arlington:

“A bunch of fights with arrests. This was 1:45 a.m. EMS was called & at least one taken away by police from a scuffle on the sidewalk in the area of Clarendon Ballroom & Spider Kelly’s… At 3:00 police found a ‘man down’ at Clarendon & Garfield. And at 3:15 police went into the residential neighborhood to track down people involved in a fight at Big Tony’s Pizza. Just your typical night in Clarendon.”

https://x.com/STATter911/status/1860753354051490032

It is delusional hubris to compare Rockville to Arlington. Arlington used to be part of DC, Rockville is a 30 minute train ride from Metro Center. If you’re going to compare Rockville to something compare it to Fair Oaks, Vienna, Fairfax City or another place that’s a sleepy burb far away from the action. You don’t want to compare it to these places though because it’s behind by any metric: schools, crime, home appreciation, economic growth, new business openings, etc.

If we’re being honest, besides Bethesda there is no place in MoCo that has residential and retail as nice as Tysons, Clarendon, Crystal City, Old Town, Del Ray, Vienna, Falls Church City, Fairfax City, Mosaic. I could go on. There’s a reason it’s so expensive to live in VA now and you can’t a SFH fixer upper in any of the areas I listed for less than $800,000.

Is that a joke? Tysons? Crystal city? Clarendon?
We are talking about the concrete jungle known as NoVa, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know too much about MD but wondering if you all have some insight on sliver spring and if its a nice place to live (clean and low crime).

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/maryland-city-best-place-families-live-america-fortune-magazine

Best place for families.

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I gotta say, I am cracking up at this anti-Rockville troll that hates on it and proceeds to give Zero evidence as to why they feel that way.

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Why do people keep bringing up an unsolved murder from SS that happened TWO YEARS AGO? Or, more likely, it's just one person on this board who is fixated on it. I live within a five-minute walk of that garage, and it's practically full all the time, so evidently most people have gotten over it. Probably hundreds of thousands of people have used that garage safely since then.

There are tons of unsolved murders everywhere in this region, including this one:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/02/20/four-years-after-unsolved-ballston-murder-no-new-details-from-police/

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You are talking complete nonsense. Rockville is one of the safest areas in MoCo.

This is true. I leave my door unlocked when I go run errands and at night when I go to sleep sometimes. I simply forget. My neighbors will leave their door literally open lol

No one should be looking at homes in the Rockville area. They’ll lose all their money when their house value falls to zero because of how unsafe it is.

Is this sarcasm?

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You must be thinking of the other side of the red line, with Glenmont and Wheaton. The eastern side of Rockville like Aspen Hill, touching the silver spring border is the more working class segment. Twinbrook is kinda sleepy and Rockville town center is very safe. Shady grove (and Derwood by extension) is very sleepy, not much happening. It gets “sketch” around Montgomery Village, which is much north of shady grove station.

In fact, most of the “action” has actually happened by pike and rose, where’s there’s lot of foot traffic

No one wants to live in Rockville. Definitely stay away. Definitely live in Bethesda.

I didn’t ask if people “want” to live in Rockville. I asked about price appreciation. If people can’t afford Bethesda, where are they naturally going to look? My first thought was a couple stops up the red line

It’s a bad area, tons of crime. If you buy there you’ll lose money. Don’t look there.

At least it's not the crime-ridden area known as Clarendon in Arlington:

“A bunch of fights with arrests. This was 1:45 a.m. EMS was called & at least one taken away by police from a scuffle on the sidewalk in the area of Clarendon Ballroom & Spider Kelly’s… At 3:00 police found a ‘man down’ at Clarendon & Garfield. And at 3:15 police went into the residential neighborhood to track down people involved in a fight at Big Tony’s Pizza. Just your typical night in Clarendon.”

https://x.com/STATter911/status/1860753354051490032

It is delusional hubris to compare Rockville to Arlington. Arlington used to be part of DC, Rockville is a 30 minute train ride from Metro Center. If you’re going to compare Rockville to something compare it to Fair Oaks, Vienna, Fairfax City or another place that’s a sleepy burb far away from the action. You don’t want to compare it to these places though because it’s behind by any metric: schools, crime, home appreciation, economic growth, new business openings, etc.

If we’re being honest, besides Bethesda there is no place in MoCo that has residential and retail as nice as Tysons, Clarendon, Crystal City, Old Town, Del Ray, Vienna, Falls Church City, Fairfax City, Mosaic. I could go on. There’s a reason it’s so expensive to live in VA now and you can’t a SFH fixer upper in any of the areas I listed for less than $800,000.

Is that a joke? Tysons? Crystal city? Clarendon?
We are talking about the concrete jungle known as NoVa, right?

Compared to the bucolic, green spaces that are Twinbrook, Downtown Rockville, and Silver Spring? The difference is that Crystal City, Tysons, and Clarendon have younger populations, less crime, more high end retail options and are just more desirable in general. You don’t have to take my word for it, compare real estate prices in any of these areas (Tysons, Mosaic, Clarendon, Crystal City, Ballston, Falls Church City, Old Town, Vienna, and Del Ray) to any area surrounding commercial centers in MoCo besides Bethesda. The market has spoken.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people keep bringing up an unsolved murder from SS that happened TWO YEARS AGO? Or, more likely, it's just one person on this board who is fixated on it. I live within a five-minute walk of that garage, and it's practically full all the time, so evidently most people have gotten over it. Probably hundreds of thousands of people have used that garage safely since then.

There are tons of unsolved murders everywhere in this region, including this one:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/02/20/four-years-after-unsolved-ballston-murder-no-new-details-from-police/

I have lived in Arlington and I have lived in Silver Spring. To not acknowledge that Downtown Silver Spring has not dramatically slid downhill over the past 10-15 years while places like Ballston Quarter and Crystal City have evolved into much nicer places than they were 10-15 years ago is just delusional. No objective person would say otherwise. Electing politicians who create a business and regulatory climate like there is in MoCo has consequences. And places like Downtown Silver Spring are emblematic of these choices.

Don’t believe me? Walk around the “mall” in Downtown Silver Spring and then go walk around Ballston Quarter. Ballston Quarter feels like Dubai by comparison. The mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole.