Is silver spring a decent place to live?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people keep bringing up an unsolved murder from SS that happened TWO YEARS AGO? Or, more likely, it's just one person on this board who is fixated on it. I live within a five-minute walk of that garage, and it's practically full all the time, so evidently most people have gotten over it. Probably hundreds of thousands of people have used that garage safely since then.

There are tons of unsolved murders everywhere in this region, including this one:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/02/20/four-years-after-unsolved-ballston-murder-no-new-details-from-police/

I have lived in Arlington and I have lived in Silver Spring. To not acknowledge that Downtown Silver Spring has not dramatically slid downhill over the past 10-15 years while places like Ballston Quarter and Crystal City have evolved into much nicer places than they were 10-15 years ago is just delusional. No objective person would say otherwise. Electing politicians who create a business and regulatory climate like there is in MoCo has consequences. And places like Downtown Silver Spring are emblematic of these choices.

Don’t believe me? Walk around the “mall” in Downtown Silver Spring and then go walk around Ballston Quarter. Ballston Quarter feels like Dubai by comparison. The mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole.

This! Peak Downton Silver Spring was when Ray’s The Classics opened. It’s been downhill ever since. Weed smoke, teenagers walking around in pajamas and ski masks, and a general “we give up” vibe. Everyone looks unhealthy or depressed compared to a places in Arlington like Clarendon or Ballston where every other person is 20-35 and healthy / fit.

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Anonymous wrote:How’s Rockville for house appreciation prospects? I feel like some areas like Twinbrook are really cheap and prime for value add/gentrification

Not good. No one moves to Rockville and everyone on DCUM makes fun of it for being the last stop on the red line.

Shady grove is.

Twinbrook, Rockville, and Shady Grove are super high crime with declining home values and bad schools. If you park your car in any of those areas it will be broken into. Don’t buy at the end of the red line, it’s super unsafe.

You must be thinking of the other side of the red line, with Glenmont and Wheaton. The eastern side of Rockville like Aspen Hill, touching the silver spring border is the more working class segment. Twinbrook is kinda sleepy and Rockville town center is very safe. Shady grove (and Derwood by extension) is very sleepy, not much happening. It gets “sketch” around Montgomery Village, which is much north of shady grove station.

In fact, most of the “action” has actually happened by pike and rose, where’s there’s lot of foot traffic

No one wants to live in Rockville. Definitely stay away. Definitely live in Bethesda.

I didn’t ask if people “want” to live in Rockville. I asked about price appreciation. If people can’t afford Bethesda, where are they naturally going to look? My first thought was a couple stops up the red line

It’s a bad area, tons of crime. If you buy there you’ll lose money. Don’t look there.

At least it's not the crime-ridden area known as Clarendon in Arlington:

“A bunch of fights with arrests. This was 1:45 a.m. EMS was called & at least one taken away by police from a scuffle on the sidewalk in the area of Clarendon Ballroom & Spider Kelly’s… At 3:00 police found a ‘man down’ at Clarendon & Garfield. And at 3:15 police went into the residential neighborhood to track down people involved in a fight at Big Tony’s Pizza. Just your typical night in Clarendon.”

https://x.com/STATter911/status/1860753354051490032

It is delusional hubris to compare Rockville to Arlington. Arlington used to be part of DC, Rockville is a 30 minute train ride from Metro Center. If you’re going to compare Rockville to something compare it to Fair Oaks, Vienna, Fairfax City or another place that’s a sleepy burb far away from the action. You don’t want to compare it to these places though because it’s behind by any metric: schools, crime, home appreciation, economic growth, new business openings, etc.

If we’re being honest, besides Bethesda there is no place in MoCo that has residential and retail as nice as Tysons, Clarendon, Crystal City, Old Town, Del Ray, Vienna, Falls Church City, Fairfax City, Mosaic. I could go on. There’s a reason it’s so expensive to live in VA now and you can’t a SFH fixer upper in any of the areas I listed for less than $800,000.

Is that a joke? Tysons? Crystal city? Clarendon?
We are talking about the concrete jungle known as NoVa, right?

Compared to the bucolic, green spaces that are Twinbrook, Downtown Rockville, and Silver Spring? The difference is that Crystal City, Tysons, and Clarendon have younger populations, less crime, more high end retail options and are just more desirable in general. You don’t have to take my word for it, compare real estate prices in any of these areas (Tysons, Mosaic, Clarendon, Crystal City, Ballston, Falls Church City, Old Town, Vienna, and Del Ray) to any area surrounding commercial centers in MoCo besides Bethesda. The market has spoken.

The real estate prices is because of the jobs there, but they are still ugly, concrete jungles with no charm and aesthetics

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people keep bringing up an unsolved murder from SS that happened TWO YEARS AGO? Or, more likely, it's just one person on this board who is fixated on it. I live within a five-minute walk of that garage, and it's practically full all the time, so evidently most people have gotten over it. Probably hundreds of thousands of people have used that garage safely since then.

There are tons of unsolved murders everywhere in this region, including this one:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/02/20/four-years-after-unsolved-ballston-murder-no-new-details-from-police/

I have lived in Arlington and I have lived in Silver Spring. To not acknowledge that Downtown Silver Spring has not dramatically slid downhill over the past 10-15 years while places like Ballston Quarter and Crystal City have evolved into much nicer places than they were 10-15 years ago is just delusional. No objective person would say otherwise. Electing politicians who create a business and regulatory climate like there is in MoCo has consequences. And places like Downtown Silver Spring are emblematic of these choices.

Don’t believe me? Walk around the “mall” in Downtown Silver Spring and then go walk around Ballston Quarter. Ballston Quarter feels like Dubai by comparison. The mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole.

Put down that pipe. It's making you delusional

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For those delusional MoCo boosters that latch on to every instance of crimes in NoVA they can find to try and paint VA as dangerous. Some hard stats:

MoCo murders in 2023: 28
Population: 1.04M

Arlington murders in 2023: 2
Population: 230,000

Fairfax murders in 2023: 17
Population: 1.1M

Alexandria murders in 2023: 4
Alexandria population: 155,000

I can’t find Loudoun County murder stats, but I’d be willing to bet that even if you added them to the totals of Arlington, Alexandria and Fairfax the total would still be even or less than MoCo’s murder totals alone.

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Anonymous wrote:For those delusional MoCo boosters that latch on to every instance of crimes in NoVA they can find to try and paint VA as dangerous. Some hard stats:

MoCo murders in 2023: 28
Population: 1.04M

Arlington murders in 2023: 2
Population: 230,000

Fairfax murders in 2023: 17
Population: 1.1M

Alexandria murders in 2023: 4
Alexandria population: 155,000

I can’t find Loudoun County murder stats, but I’d be willing to bet that even if you added them to the totals of Arlington, Alexandria and Fairfax the total would still be even or less than MoCo’s murder totals alone.

And MD boosters aren’t going to like the murder rate data comparing PG County and Prince William County either. The exurbs of VA (Loudoun, Faquier) are far safer than places like Anne Arundel and Howard County as well.

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Anonymous wrote:For those delusional MoCo boosters that latch on to every instance of crimes in NoVA they can find to try and paint VA as dangerous. Some hard stats:

MoCo murders in 2023: 28
Population: 1.04M

Arlington murders in 2023: 2
Population: 230,000

Fairfax murders in 2023: 17
Population: 1.1M

Alexandria murders in 2023: 4
Alexandria population: 155,000

I can’t find Loudoun County murder stats, but I’d be willing to bet that even if you added them to the totals of Arlington, Alexandria and Fairfax the total would still be even or less than MoCo’s murder totals alone.

That seems pretty similar when you add up the Virginia numbers unless you want to compare Bethesda to Arlington instead of MoCo to Arlington. Next you can compare Arlington murders to those in my back yard. Zero. Looks like my yard is safer than Arlington.

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Anonymous wrote:For those delusional MoCo boosters that latch on to every instance of crimes in NoVA they can find to try and paint VA as dangerous. Some hard stats:

MoCo murders in 2023: 28
Population: 1.04M

Arlington murders in 2023: 2
Population: 230,000

Fairfax murders in 2023: 17
Population: 1.1M

Alexandria murders in 2023: 4
Alexandria population: 155,000

I can’t find Loudoun County murder stats, but I’d be willing to bet that even if you added them to the totals of Arlington, Alexandria and Fairfax the total would still be even or less than MoCo’s murder totals alone.

And MD boosters aren’t going to like the murder rate data comparing PG County and Prince William County either. The exurbs of VA (Loudoun, Faquier) are far safer than places like Anne Arundel and Howard County as well.

The murders just make it more authentic and vibrant.

[Anonymous]

OP, Silver spring is a 💩 place to live generally speaking. Hope that's helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:For those delusional MoCo boosters that latch on to every instance of crimes in NoVA they can find to try and paint VA as dangerous. Some hard stats:

MoCo murders in 2023: 28
Population: 1.04M

Arlington murders in 2023: 2
Population: 230,000

Fairfax murders in 2023: 17
Population: 1.1M

Alexandria murders in 2023: 4
Alexandria population: 155,000

I can’t find Loudoun County murder stats, but I’d be willing to bet that even if you added them to the totals of Arlington, Alexandria and Fairfax the total would still be even or less than MoCo’s murder totals alone.

City of Alexandria is at least 7-8 this year so far. They're hiding a lot of it out of the media. You have to look very closely and see the stories before they disappear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people keep bringing up an unsolved murder from SS that happened TWO YEARS AGO? Or, more likely, it's just one person on this board who is fixated on it. I live within a five-minute walk of that garage, and it's practically full all the time, so evidently most people have gotten over it. Probably hundreds of thousands of people have used that garage safely since then.

There are tons of unsolved murders everywhere in this region, including this one:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/02/20/four-years-after-unsolved-ballston-murder-no-new-details-from-police/

I have lived in Arlington and I have lived in Silver Spring. To not acknowledge that Downtown Silver Spring has not dramatically slid downhill over the past 10-15 years while places like Ballston Quarter and Crystal City have evolved into much nicer places than they were 10-15 years ago is just delusional. No objective person would say otherwise. Electing politicians who create a business and regulatory climate like there is in MoCo has consequences. And places like Downtown Silver Spring are emblematic of these choices.

Don’t believe me? Walk around the “mall” in Downtown Silver Spring and then go walk around Ballston Quarter. Ballston Quarter feels like Dubai by comparison. The mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole.

Newsflash: nobody shops at the mall in Downtown Silver Spring. There are some good restaurants in the streets around the mall, but nobody ever goes inside unless they're desperate for super-cheap shoes. Plus, most Silver Spring housing is somewhat distant from the mall. So your comparison isn't relevant.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people keep bringing up an unsolved murder from SS that happened TWO YEARS AGO? Or, more likely, it's just one person on this board who is fixated on it. I live within a five-minute walk of that garage, and it's practically full all the time, so evidently most people have gotten over it. Probably hundreds of thousands of people have used that garage safely since then.

There are tons of unsolved murders everywhere in this region, including this one:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/02/20/four-years-after-unsolved-ballston-murder-no-new-details-from-police/

I have lived in Arlington and I have lived in Silver Spring. To not acknowledge that Downtown Silver Spring has not dramatically slid downhill over the past 10-15 years while places like Ballston Quarter and Crystal City have evolved into much nicer places than they were 10-15 years ago is just delusional. No objective person would say otherwise. Electing politicians who create a business and regulatory climate like there is in MoCo has consequences. And places like Downtown Silver Spring are emblematic of these choices.

Don’t believe me? Walk around the “mall” in Downtown Silver Spring and then go walk around Ballston Quarter. Ballston Quarter feels like Dubai by comparison. The mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole.

Newsflash: nobody shops at the mall in Downtown Silver Spring. There are some good restaurants in the streets around the mall, but nobody ever goes inside unless they're desperate for super-cheap shoes. Plus, most Silver Spring housing is somewhat distant from the mall. So your comparison isn't relevant.

So no one goes there is a defense of it being okay? “The only indoor mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole but it’s okay because no one goes there.” Okay…

Ballston used to be a depressing wasteland but Ballston Quarter is now much nicer than any mall in MD besides Montgomery Mall. Same with Springfield Mall. The reason is that VA is growing every year while MD is slowly decaying and its boosters are pretending it’s still 2010.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:10 people are murdered daily in silver springs. Rockvilles has 15 murdered a day. Buy in Virginia.

Is this true?

No, it's not true.

County of a million people and there were 28 homicides last year for all of Montgomery County MD, including Rockville and Silver Spring.

I'm from a southern city where someone gets murdered almost every night, so Silver Spring has been great.

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Anonymous wrote:10 people are murdered daily in silver springs. Rockvilles has 15 murdered a day. Buy in Virginia.

Is this true?

No, it's not true.

[/b]County of a million people and there were 28 homicides last year for all of Montgomery County MD, including Rockville and Silver Spring.

I'm from a southern city where someone gets murdered almost every night, so Silver Spring has been great[b].

This is not a flex for a suburb that you think it is.

[Anonymous]

As a 32-year resident of Silver Spring 20902, I find all this very entertaining. The only thing you may need to worry about is navigating your way through the thousands of families walking their dog every day.

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Anonymous wrote:As a 32-year resident of Silver Spring 20902, I find all this very entertaining. The only thing you may need to worry about is navigating your way through the thousands of families walking their dog every day.

Thousands of families sharing the same dog must be hard.