Why didn’t Kamala go on the Joe Rogan podcast?

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA is desperate to live in the past. They are like small terriers who constantly nip at your pant leg because they’re desperate for legitimacy.

This. Thread. Needs. To. Die.

No. I’m a very angry Democrat. I knew we were going to lose, I posted here many times about it (as I did in 2016), and was routinely told that I was a MAGA for stating the blindingly obvious truth. I want the real Democratic Party back, not the one that cares only about tiny privileged subsets of the population that demand unquestioning allegiance to even the craziest tenets of what is obviously a new religion.

I am a pro-labor, pro-working class, anti-Cheney (wtf!?!), pro-military Democrat who thinks DEI is largely an anti-union movement. I listen to Rogan periodically. And I am not alone, there are a lot of us who are wholly alienated from the Democrats but do not trust the Republicans.

This thread and others like it need to continue because all you blue bubble elitists here need to understand how your elitist idiocy is going to hurt a lot of people. It’s people like me, who campaigned and voted for Harris even while knowing that she was going to lose, who will eventually save the party from lunatics like you, and yes, we are going to keep talking and you will have to deal with it. You had your turn and you failed miserably.

You actually sound like many of the mildly center-left people I know that voted Trump. They still call themselves Dems but were compelled to vote for Trump. I think people need to understand Trump grew the center and pushed the fringes on both sides further out. Seems Dems are to sanctimonious to accept that, so they resort to calling people names.

Yes, agreed. I am squarely center-left. I voted for Harris and even campaigned for her, but I know a lot of center left people who aren’t all that different from me who voted for Trump. And because I’m not a lunatic like the rabid blue posters here, these folks are still my friends and we talk about politics like normal people, so I know what drove their votes.

Dp. Sorry but elections do have consequences and your vote affects everyone so no we cannot be frienda if you voted for him.

+1. The guy is a criminal and liar. I can’t stand all this gaslighting justification for voting for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump shoots from the hip and his supporters have already said they don't care about his gaffes and lies and derogatory words. Kamala is someone who has a harder time speaking impromptu and she would be scrutinized relentlessly plus the audience would be mostly male and confrontational towards whatever she said.

Shouldn’t someone who wants to be President figure out how to take it and now cower in fear?

You ... you know the election is over, right?

You know Kamala lost right?

Yeah, it's over. Why is it living rent-free in your head?

Lol. Yes nobody is talking about it anymore.

Perhaps you should talk about it (I’m assuming you’re a Democrat) in order to learn from the mistakes of this campaign. An autopsy needs to be done. Democrats are so quick to discard someone as soon as one thing doesn’t go their way (just like they did to Biden) and that’s part of the problem.

Republicans will stick around and have stuck around with Trump for nine years around three different campaigns and it was the same deal with McCain and others. The problem with Democrats is they show no loyalty.

Look at how Obama and Nancy threw Biden under the bus and now Nancy is throwing Kamala under the bus. “This isn’t what we wanted”. Well, who cares about what Nancy wanted? Shouldn’t the candidate be whoever the American public selected?

Very true...when was the last time the Democrats allowed their voters to choose their presidential nominee? It's always backroom deals and strategic dropping out in order to get the anointed candidate. Meanwhile the GOP elites would have given their eye teeth to have a respectable Republican on the ticket but those pesky voters keep picking Trump!

2020 and 2024. We chose Biden and Harris. Are you saying if Trump lefy you wouldn't have chosen Vance?

Did you choose them?
2020 Iowa caucuses: In order of number of delegates: Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, Biden, Klobuchar
2020 New Hampshire primary: Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Warren, and Biden in last place
2020 Nevada caucus: Sanders won with more than twice the number of delegates as Biden who came in 2nd
2020 Colorado primary: Sanders won
2020 South Carolina primary: Biden won and this week all the candidates except Sanders drop out and endorse Biden just in time for the national panic to commence
June 2020: After the George Floyd insanity Biden announces he will be choosing a "woman of color" as his running mate
You don't find any of this ...off?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Being okay with Dick Cheney’s endorsement and campaigning with Liz Cheney, but not going on Rogan because of pushback from woke staff, is a perfect anecdote to why she lost this election and the Dems are in shambles.

Just think how backwards and nonsensical that is.

Saying she declined due to woke staff opposition sounds better than saying she declined because she can't do off-the-cuff interviews.

I was a big Harris fan but agree with PP. I don't think she's great in this type of setting (casual "shoot the sh*t" / quasi personal) and I can see why they'd be wary.

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Anonymous wrote:Being okay with Dick Cheney’s endorsement and campaigning with Liz Cheney, but not going on Rogan because of pushback from woke staff, is a perfect anecdote to why she lost this election and the Dems are in shambles.

Just think how backwards and nonsensical that is.

Saying she declined due to woke staff opposition sounds better than saying she declined because she can't do off-the-cuff interviews.

I was a big Harris fan but agree with PP. I don't think she's great in this type of setting (casual "shoot the sh*t" / quasi personal) and I can see why they'd be wary.

Come on! She was great with Charlamagne Tha God riffing about listening to Tupac and smoking weed while in college in 1986!

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Anonymous wrote:Being okay with Dick Cheney’s endorsement and campaigning with Liz Cheney, but not going on Rogan because of pushback from woke staff, is a perfect anecdote to why she lost this election and the Dems are in shambles.

Just think how backwards and nonsensical that is.

Saying she declined due to woke staff opposition sounds better than saying she declined because she can't do off-the-cuff interviews.

I mean it's easy these days to change the narrative, right? She refused to do a long-form interview and her team wanted to be able to do edits before it was published to YT.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA is desperate to live in the past. They are like small terriers who constantly nip at your pant leg because they’re desperate for legitimacy.

This. Thread. Needs. To. Die.

No. I’m a very angry Democrat. I knew we were going to lose, I posted here many times about it (as I did in 2016), and was routinely told that I was a MAGA for stating the blindingly obvious truth. I want the real Democratic Party back, not the one that cares only about tiny privileged subsets of the population that demand unquestioning allegiance to even the craziest tenets of what is obviously a new religion.

I am a pro-labor, pro-working class, anti-Cheney (wtf!?!), pro-military Democrat who thinks DEI is largely an anti-union movement. I listen to Rogan periodically. And I am not alone, there are a lot of us who are wholly alienated from the Democrats but do not trust the Republicans.

This thread and others like it need to continue because all you blue bubble elitists here need to understand how your elitist idiocy is going to hurt a lot of people. It’s people like me, who campaigned and voted for Harris even while knowing that she was going to lose, who will eventually save the party from lunatics like you, and yes, we are going to keep talking and you will have to deal with it. You had your turn and you failed miserably.

You actually sound like many of the mildly center-left people I know that voted Trump. They still call themselves Dems but were compelled to vote for Trump. I think people need to understand Trump grew the center and pushed the fringes on both sides further out. Seems Dems are to sanctimonious to accept that, so they resort to calling people names.

Yes, agreed. I am squarely center-left. I voted for Harris and even campaigned for her, but I know a lot of center left people who aren’t all that different from me who voted for Trump. And because I’m not a lunatic like the rabid blue posters here, these folks are still my friends and we talk about politics like normal people, so I know what drove their votes.

Dp. Sorry but elections do have consequences and your vote affects everyone so no we cannot be frienda if you voted for him.

+1. The guy is a criminal and liar. I can’t stand all this gaslighting justification for voting for him.

This. Trump is simply not fit. The GOP needs to do better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA is desperate to live in the past. They are like small terriers who constantly nip at your pant leg because they’re desperate for legitimacy.

This. Thread. Needs. To. Die.

No. I’m a very angry Democrat. I knew we were going to lose, I posted here many times about it (as I did in 2016), and was routinely told that I was a MAGA for stating the blindingly obvious truth. I want the real Democratic Party back, not the one that cares only about tiny privileged subsets of the population that demand unquestioning allegiance to even the craziest tenets of what is obviously a new religion.

I am a pro-labor, pro-working class, anti-Cheney (wtf!?!), pro-military Democrat who thinks DEI is largely an anti-union movement. I listen to Rogan periodically. And I am not alone, there are a lot of us who are wholly alienated from the Democrats but do not trust the Republicans.

This thread and others like it need to continue because all you blue bubble elitists here need to understand how your elitist idiocy is going to hurt a lot of people. It’s people like me, who campaigned and voted for Harris even while knowing that she was going to lose, who will eventually save the party from lunatics like you, and yes, we are going to keep talking and you will have to deal with it. You had your turn and you failed miserably.

You actually sound like many of the mildly center-left people I know that voted Trump. They still call themselves Dems but were compelled to vote for Trump. I think people need to understand Trump grew the center and pushed the fringes on both sides further out. Seems Dems are to sanctimonious to accept that, so they resort to calling people names.

Yes, agreed. I am squarely center-left. I voted for Harris and even campaigned for her, but I know a lot of center left people who aren’t all that different from me who voted for Trump. And because I’m not a lunatic like the rabid blue posters here, these folks are still my friends and we talk about politics like normal people, so I know what drove their votes.

Dp. Sorry but elections do have consequences and your vote affects everyone so no we cannot be frienda if you voted for him.

Luckily the rest of the country recognizes your crazy and stays far away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA is desperate to live in the past. They are like small terriers who constantly nip at your pant leg because they’re desperate for legitimacy.

This. Thread. Needs. To. Die.

No. I’m a very angry Democrat. I knew we were going to lose, I posted here many times about it (as I did in 2016), and was routinely told that I was a MAGA for stating the blindingly obvious truth. I want the real Democratic Party back, not the one that cares only about tiny privileged subsets of the population that demand unquestioning allegiance to even the craziest tenets of what is obviously a new religion.

I am a pro-labor, pro-working class, anti-Cheney (wtf!?!), pro-military Democrat who thinks DEI is largely an anti-union movement. I listen to Rogan periodically. And I am not alone, there are a lot of us who are wholly alienated from the Democrats but do not trust the Republicans.

This thread and others like it need to continue because all you blue bubble elitists here need to understand how your elitist idiocy is going to hurt a lot of people. It’s people like me, who campaigned and voted for Harris even while knowing that she was going to lose, who will eventually save the party from lunatics like you, and yes, we are going to keep talking and you will have to deal with it. You had your turn and you failed miserably.

You actually sound like many of the mildly center-left people I know that voted Trump. They still call themselves Dems but were compelled to vote for Trump. I think people need to understand Trump grew the center and pushed the fringes on both sides further out. Seems Dems are to sanctimonious to accept that, so they resort to calling people names.

Yes, agreed. I am squarely center-left. I voted for Harris and even campaigned for her, but I know a lot of center left people who aren’t all that different from me who voted for Trump. And because I’m not a lunatic like the rabid blue posters here, these folks are still my friends and we talk about politics like normal people, so I know what drove their votes.

Dp. Sorry but elections do have consequences and your vote affects everyone so no we cannot be frienda if you voted for him.

Luckily the rest of the country recognizes your crazy and stays far away.

True.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA is desperate to live in the past. They are like small terriers who constantly nip at your pant leg because they’re desperate for legitimacy.

This. Thread. Needs. To. Die.

No. I’m a very angry Democrat. I knew we were going to lose, I posted here many times about it (as I did in 2016), and was routinely told that I was a MAGA for stating the blindingly obvious truth. I want the real Democratic Party back, not the one that cares only about tiny privileged subsets of the population that demand unquestioning allegiance to even the craziest tenets of what is obviously a new religion.

I am a pro-labor, pro-working class, anti-Cheney (wtf!?!), pro-military Democrat who thinks DEI is largely an anti-union movement. I listen to Rogan periodically. And I am not alone, there are a lot of us who are wholly alienated from the Democrats but do not trust the Republicans.

This thread and others like it need to continue because all you blue bubble elitists here need to understand how your elitist idiocy is going to hurt a lot of people. It’s people like me, who campaigned and voted for Harris even while knowing that she was going to lose, who will eventually save the party from lunatics like you, and yes, we are going to keep talking and you will have to deal with it. You had your turn and you failed miserably.

You actually sound like many of the mildly center-left people I know that voted Trump. They still call themselves Dems but were compelled to vote for Trump. I think people need to understand Trump grew the center and pushed the fringes on both sides further out. Seems Dems are to sanctimonious to accept that, so they resort to calling people names.

Yes, agreed. I am squarely center-left. I voted for Harris and even campaigned for her, but I know a lot of center left people who aren’t all that different from me who voted for Trump. And because I’m not a lunatic like the rabid blue posters here, these folks are still my friends and we talk about politics like normal people, so I know what drove their votes.

It's kind of nice to be normal isn't it? Not be fueled by hate and anger. I personally can't see how you would vote or campaign for a candidate like her but respect it. Your side has a long hill to climb, this election was a zeitgeist and should give notice to the old establishment R's and the lunatics on the far-left. The fact Harris invited Cheney into her circle is telling.

Honestly, I didn’t like her. Not at all. I campaigned reluctantly, and actually stopped after the Cheney endorsement. But January 6th was a line in the sand for me, and what I was supporting was the idea that we should not have a president who encourages insurrection. Essentially I campaigned against Trump because of January 6th, not for Harris, who I knew would lose. I know it was a waste of time. I just felt that January 6th was a red line.

However, I accept that Jan 6th was not as big of a deal for other center left folks who voted for Trump. And I’m not devastated Trump won. There will be some good and needed changes that come out of a Trump presidency.

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Anonymous wrote:What went wrong? Their camps were in negotiations for weeks but Kamala didn’t want to go to Austin to do the show.

What’s her big problem with traveling? She also didn’t want to go travel to the studio for the Call her Daddy podcast.

Given she lost by very small margins in a few Blue Wall states, don’t you think a podcast with Joe would’ve helped her just a bit with young voters?

No, Joe wouldn’t allow her to go on his show.

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Anonymous wrote:What went wrong? Their camps were in negotiations for weeks but Kamala didn’t want to go to Austin to do the show.

What’s her big problem with traveling? She also didn’t want to go travel to the studio for the Call her Daddy podcast.

Given she lost by very small margins in a few Blue Wall states, don’t you think a podcast with Joe would’ve helped her just a bit with young voters?

No, Joe wouldn’t allow her to go on his show.

He wanted her on the show.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump shoots from the hip and his supporters have already said they don't care about his gaffes and lies and derogatory words. Kamala is someone who has a harder time speaking impromptu and she would be scrutinized relentlessly plus the audience would be mostly male and confrontational towards whatever she said.

Shouldn’t someone who wants to be President figure out how to take it and now cower in fear?

You ... you know the election is over, right?

You know Kamala lost right?

Yeah, it's over. Why is it living rent-free in your head?

Lol. Yes nobody is talking about it anymore.

Perhaps you should talk about it (I’m assuming you’re a Democrat) in order to learn from the mistakes of this campaign. An autopsy needs to be done. Democrats are so quick to discard someone as soon as one thing doesn’t go their way (just like they did to Biden) and that’s part of the problem.

Republicans will stick around and have stuck around with Trump for nine years around three different campaigns and it was the same deal with McCain and others. The problem with Democrats is they show no loyalty.

Look at how Obama and Nancy threw Biden under the bus and now Nancy is throwing Kamala under the bus. “This isn’t what we wanted”. Well, who cares about what Nancy wanted? Shouldn’t the candidate be whoever the American public selected?

Very true...when was the last time the Democrats allowed their voters to choose their presidential nominee? It's always backroom deals and strategic dropping out in order to get the anointed candidate. Meanwhile the GOP elites would have given their eye teeth to have a respectable Republican on the ticket but those pesky voters keep picking Trump!

2020 and 2024. We chose Biden and Harris. Are you saying if Trump lefy you wouldn't have chosen Vance?

Did you choose them?
2020 Iowa caucuses: In order of number of delegates: Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, Biden, Klobuchar
2020 New Hampshire primary: Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Warren, and Biden in last place
2020 Nevada caucus: Sanders won with more than twice the number of delegates as Biden who came in 2nd
2020 Colorado primary: Sanders won
2020 South Carolina primary: Biden won and this week all the candidates except Sanders drop out and endorse Biden just in time for the national panic to commence
June 2020: After the George Floyd insanity Biden announces he will be choosing a "woman of color" as his running mate
You don't find any of this ...off?

That was 84 year old Jim Clyburn delivering the southern black vote to Biden in 2020. It became impossible for other candidates after that. Democrats would be in a better position today if they had let the process play out in 2020. Sanders resonates much more strongly with the working class than Biden or Clinton. Instead, Democrats are now tagged as the party of urban elites, which is devastating for them politically.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is a buffoon, but he's much smarter than Kamala. [/b]She cannot do more than repeat clips and phrases she memorizes. She's an intellectual lightweight with no theory of the way the world works.

The only candidate with a brain this cycle was Vance.

"Yeah girl, lemme tell you I'm out in these streets. And these extremists? [b]They not like us."
Who did she have writing these phrases?

Kendrick Lamar I assume.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump shoots from the hip and his supporters have already said they don't care about his gaffes and lies and derogatory words. Kamala is someone who has a harder time speaking impromptu and she would be scrutinized relentlessly plus the audience would be mostly male and confrontational towards whatever she said.

Shouldn’t someone who wants to be President figure out how to take it and now cower in fear?

You ... you know the election is over, right?

You know Kamala lost right?

Yeah, it's over. Why is it living rent-free in your head?

Lol. Yes nobody is talking about it anymore.

Perhaps you should talk about it (I’m assuming you’re a Democrat) in order to learn from the mistakes of this campaign. An autopsy needs to be done. Democrats are so quick to discard someone as soon as one thing doesn’t go their way (just like they did to Biden) and that’s part of the problem.

Republicans will stick around and have stuck around with Trump for nine years around three different campaigns and it was the same deal with McCain and others. The problem with Democrats is they show no loyalty.

Look at how Obama and Nancy threw Biden under the bus and now Nancy is throwing Kamala under the bus. “This isn’t what we wanted”. Well, who cares about what Nancy wanted? Shouldn’t the candidate be whoever the American public selected?

Very true...when was the last time the Democrats allowed their voters to choose their presidential nominee? It's always backroom deals and strategic dropping out in order to get the anointed candidate. Meanwhile the GOP elites would have given their eye teeth to have a respectable Republican on the ticket but those pesky voters keep picking Trump!

2020 and 2024. We chose Biden and Harris. Are you saying if Trump lefy you wouldn't have chosen Vance?

Did you choose them?
2020 Iowa caucuses: In order of number of delegates: Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, Biden, Klobuchar
2020 New Hampshire primary: Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Warren, and Biden in last place
2020 Nevada caucus: Sanders won with more than twice the number of delegates as Biden who came in 2nd
2020 Colorado primary: Sanders won
2020 South Carolina primary: Biden won and this week all the candidates except Sanders drop out and endorse Biden just in time for the national panic to commence
June 2020: After the George Floyd insanity Biden announces he will be choosing a "woman of color" as his running mate
You don't find any of this ...off?

Good points. But you missed a step. Biden first committed to making a woman his running mate. Klobuchar was being floated but some mysterious oppo research dropped about her overzealous prosecution of a Black man (cannot remember if he was actually innocent or not) which disqualified her and made Harris the only effective woman who he could pick. But he then declared it would be a “woman of color” and considered a few other options first.

It is correct that they stacked it against Bernie. However, a big part of that was that they were afraid that Bernie could not beat Trump but thought Biden had a better chance.

I believe Biden spent the entire campaign in his basement in Delaware, which was pretty lucky for him and for Democrats that there was a pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Because she is vapid and can't handle questions on the fly.