Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change

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They will probably make the cut off July 1...

99.99999% of school districts in the country have a cut off after July 1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, they voted to keep birth year.

False, supposedly November 22.

False, the decision has already been made to stay BY.

See I can make unsubstantiated claims to.

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

So your child started school early? With the change they can always play with classmates if that is what they want. Nothing stops you from playing up, it just may not be on the top team. All these manufactured grievances are exhausting.

You misread my post. He started school when he was supposed to according to the rules of the State. It hasn't hurt him academically, socially or soccer-wise.

However, this change would force him to play with kids in the grade below him unless he plays up. Now, on ability that shouldn't be an issue. However, if the club or governing body prohibits that, then he's screwed.

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

So your child started school early? With the change they can always play with classmates if that is what they want. Nothing stops you from playing up, it just may not be on the top team. All these manufactured grievances are exhausting.

You misread my post. He started school when he was supposed to according to the rules of the State. It hasn't hurt him academically, socially or soccer-wise.

However, this change would force him to play with kids in the grade below him unless he plays up. Now, on ability that shouldn't be an issue. However, if the club or governing body prohibits that, then he's screwed.

There has never been a rule that prohibits playing up. Why would going back to the SY age cut off change that?

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

So your child started school early? With the change they can always play with classmates if that is what they want. Nothing stops you from playing up, it just may not be on the top team. All these manufactured grievances are exhausting.

You misread my post. He started school when he was supposed to according to the rules of the State. It hasn't hurt him academically, socially or soccer-wise.

However, this change would force him to play with kids in the grade below him unless he plays up. Now, on ability that shouldn't be an issue. However, if the club or governing body prohibits that, then he's screwed.

There has never been a rule that prohibits playing up. Why would going back to the SY age cut off change that?

DP. Some clubs don’t let kids play up if there’s a team for their own age group. We have seen it at ours. Kids who started playing U9 at age 7 had to drop down to play U9 for a second year when they were 8, and stay with that team moving forward. No matter if they had the ability to play with the top team of older kids. People have left the club over it.

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

So your child started school early? With the change they can always play with classmates if that is what they want. Nothing stops you from playing up, it just may not be on the top team. All these manufactured grievances are exhausting.

You misread my post. He started school when he was supposed to according to the rules of the State. It hasn't hurt him academically, socially or soccer-wise.

However, this change would force him to play with kids in the grade below him unless he plays up. Now, on ability that shouldn't be an issue. However, if the club or governing body prohibits that, then he's screwed.

There has never been a rule that prohibits playing up. Why would going back to the SY age cut off change that?

DP. Some clubs don’t let kids play up if there’s a team for their own age group. We have seen it at ours. Kids who started playing U9 at age 7 had to drop down to play U9 for a second year when they were 8, and stay with that team moving forward. No matter if they had the ability to play with the top team of older kids. People have left the club over it.

People leave clubs for other ALL the time. Playing up is not against the rules so that is a choice they can make for themselves. That does not mean they are 'trapped'. Currently a trapped player does not have a choice because it is against the rules to play down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U.S. Soccer is not going SY

Can’t wait to hear where you got this info.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

Same here. Its so odd to me that this seems like the better solution. It just leaves a different set of kids trapped.

Nobody is trapped if they can play with their grade. Right now Fall birthday kids are not allowed to play with their correct grade so they’re trapped. With the change nobody will be trapped.

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Anonymous wrote:U.S. Soccer is not going SY

Can’t wait to hear where you got this info.

Wait suddenly the SY people want sources?

I thought we could all just make things up and come to a collective agreement on what's true.

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

Same here. Its so odd to me that this seems like the better solution. It just leaves a different set of kids trapped.

Nobody is trapped if they can play with their grade. Right now Fall birthday kids are not allowed to play with their correct grade so they’re trapped. With the change nobody will be trapped.

Except the school districts that start Sept 1 or any date after Aug 1. Oh and home school. and private school kids.

But don't let detailed get in the way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

Same here. Its so odd to me that this seems like the better solution. It just leaves a different set of kids trapped.

Nobody is trapped if they can play with their grade. Right now Fall birthday kids are not allowed to play with their correct grade so they’re trapped. With the change nobody will be trapped.

Except the school districts that start Sept 1 or any date after Aug 1. Oh and home school. and private school kids.

But don't let detailed get in the way.

That's why they would go with an 8/1 cutoff instead of 9/1. Don't let facts get in your way.

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

Same here. Its so odd to me that this seems like the better solution. It just leaves a different set of kids trapped.

Nobody is trapped if they can play with their grade. Right now Fall birthday kids are not allowed to play with their correct grade so they’re trapped. With the change nobody will be trapped.

Except the school districts that start Sept 1 or any date after Aug 1. Oh and home school. and private school kids.

But don't let detailed get in the way.

There may still be some trapped players but it will be reduced by a lot. Going from 4 months worth of trapped players to 1 month or less is a significant improvement. No solution is perfect but can we at least agree that having less trapped players is a good thing?

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

Same here. Its so odd to me that this seems like the better solution. It just leaves a different set of kids trapped.

Nobody is trapped if they can play with their grade. Right now Fall birthday kids are not allowed to play with their correct grade so they’re trapped. With the change nobody will be trapped.

Except the school districts that start Sept 1 or any date after Aug 1. Oh and home school. and private school kids.

But don't let detailed get in the way.

There may still be some trapped players but it will be reduced by a lot. Going from 4 months worth of trapped players to 1 month or less is a significant improvement. No solution is perfect but can we at least agree that having less trapped players is a good thing?

No, because I don't think trapped players are an issue. Especially on higher level competitive teams.

If you want to play SY rec with friends from school fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School year increases participation at the youngest ages, which increases the quantity and quality of players later. School year also eliminates trapped players in the MS/HS and HS/college transitions. It was a shortsighted switch to BY and it should be corrected. It will be a headache to correct, but it will be good for players (trapped players) and good for the system in the long run.

No it is not an issue. It is not worth the effort for few the “trapped” players. Go play rec.

Why are there so few trapped players? Oh, because they all drop out and stop playing.....

And there will still be trapped players with SY.

Since you are so knowledgeable please list all the school districts that begin the school year before 8/1.

My son is an August birthday in a state where the enrollment cutoff is September 1st. He'll go from playing with his grade level to playing with the class behind him who he has no connection to.

Same here. Its so odd to me that this seems like the better solution. It just leaves a different set of kids trapped.

Nobody is trapped if they can play with their grade. Right now Fall birthday kids are not allowed to play with their correct grade so they’re trapped. With the change nobody will be trapped.

Except the school districts that start Sept 1 or any date after Aug 1. Oh and home school. and private school kids.

But don't let detailed get in the way.

There may still be some trapped players but it will be reduced by a lot. Going from 4 months worth of trapped players to 1 month or less is a significant improvement. No solution is perfect but can we at least agree that having less trapped players is a good thing?

No, because I don't think trapped players are an issue. Especially on higher level competitive teams.

If you want to play SY rec with friends from school fine.

All that means is your kid is not a trapped player so it isn't an issue for you.

[Anonymous]

my DD is born in June 2010 plays u15 but is a 8th grader not a 9th grader (started school late in K) yet. with this new rule can she try out to u15 again next year which means changing teams?