What if Biden does not bow out?

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Biden HAS to bow out.

With him weighing down House and Senate races, it's not just the Presidency he's going to lose for his party.

Picking an alternative, despite the fighting and second-guessing, will give Democrats a chance for all three.

This is a choice between a certain loss and a fighting chance.

If you stick with Biden now, you're voting for Trump.



Biden is in it to win it. He’s staying in.


He has about as much contact with reality as Hitlers bunker.in April 1945.


If your memes were reality you’d be doing a victory dance and not worrying about whether Biden will or will not drop out.


Yeah, that's what I can't figure out either - why the pro-Trump trolls are so angsty and agitated and upset when they should be kicking back and celebrating their win.


It’s because he still can’t win. They need the chaos of Biden dropping out, naming a successor, getting that name on all the ballots, etc. to prevail.

They are desperate. Because demographics have changed such that the “swing voters” aren’t even relevant. All we need to do is get out the vote and they literally cannot win. GA was the canary in the coal mine. They are freaking out.


I will never vote for Trump, but I think you are vastly overconfident about the demographics here. I live in a deep blue state and in the past two weeks I have seen a surge of Trump banners, stickers, etc. in front of houses and on the cars of people who are not remotely in the demographics you seem to believe are locked in for the Democrats. I didn’t even see that in 2016 (and for reference, I knew Trump was going to win in June 2016).

Your hubris is going to be the failure of the Democrats. Do not take people’s votes for granted, particularly the votes of young people who don’t trust the party that has been telling them that Joe Biden is fine.


It’s not hubris to say that the demographic advantage exists and that’s why the Trump trolls aren’t celebrating that Biden is the candidate, but rather trying to push him out. Biden is going to have to prove that he can stay in this and win it, to those young voters especially, and I think he will. That’s said, I don’t think there’s some widespread belief that Biden isn’t just old and had a very bad night, and that there’s some kind of cover-up about a diagnosed condition. I’m just not hearing that.



I'm not sure it's the Trump voters who want Biden out. Die-hard Trumpists are more than happy for Biden to stay in the race. Instead, I think it's coming from self-respecting Americans.


+1 Trump himself is encouraging Biden to stay in race.


Trump absolutely wants Biden. He will win in a landslide if Biden is the candidate.


Trump also coyly mentioned "and then you will have Harris." He had to say nothing more to get people racing to vote for him or deciding not to vote The more Trump mentions Harris, the better off he is.
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Anonymous wrote:Kamala IS covering for him. She has to have seen the decline. If she really believes he is capable of serving another term, then her judgment is not that of someone who should serve as president.

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Ugh her demeanor in the 2nd video especially is just awful.

What? Her demeanor is fine. You people are such weirdos. I guess ya’ll just hate to see a woman smile. Yeah we know ya’ll hate a happy woman. We know.


Kamala Harris is going to get more black male votes for Donald Trump.
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Anonymous wrote:I feel validated because Maureen Dowd agreed with me last week in her NYT article that it was the DNC fault that we are in this mess. No matter what Biden said about not wanting to run because of his son's death, he was actually pushed aside so that the unelectable Hillary Clinton could run and we had Trump foisted on the country. Biden would have easily beaten Trump and would now be coasting toward the end of his second term with a good VP (not Harris who he was forced to pick by the DNC) to succeed him.

My new conspiracy theory, is that there is a split between the DNC and Biden's White House. The DNC pushed the early debate at 9 pm which would show how ineffective Biden is at night. He seems to be suffering from Parkinson's Disease with the classic sundowner syndrome shutting him down at night. The DNC knew there would be enough time to show how bad off Biden is and to get someone else into the race. The current hand wringing by the Biden White House is being ignored by the senators and congresspeople who do not want to lose down ticket with Biden at the top.

The DNC is trying to undo the harm they did with Trump's election by pushing Biden out. God help us if they do not succeed in getting Biden to give up his primary votes.


I guess we don’t really need a president after 8:00 pm.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is a lifetime conman and now felon who can’t stay awake on his own trial a nominee? Why isn’t THAT the big story?


Because we all know who he is. Republicans know who he is and like him in spite of/because of those things. And lots of independents are leaning that way.

Biden is not who we thought. We thought he was still there. We have been lied to by the Whitehouse and frankly the majority of the media because it was covering it up by either not asking for more access or asking tough questions. The media, like you, was focused on how bad Trump is but never bothered to dig into the stories of Biden’s struggles or his ever more limited availability for unscripted events. I mean I only just learned after the Debate that he bailed on the G7 dinner. Wtf is that! We are still supposed to the the leader of the free world and he skipped it to rest up! No. No. He HAS to go to things like that. He then tells us after the debate disaster that he needs to go bed by 8pm. No. If that is what he needs, that is ok but then it’s just time to retire. He is NOT entitled to be the President of the United Stated and him staying in the spot is preventing us from having a good candidate who can beat Trump. He is acting like a king right now. He apparently can’t really do the job now and lots of people do not see electing him as any better than electing Trump. And with him in such obvious decline, much as I disagree, that position is not crazy.


I agree with this 100%. The things he said in the interview were
entitled and selfish. He’s only going to step down if God tells him to?! So he gets his power from God like a king? He doesn’t care that a significant number of people who voted for him in 2020 want another Democrat on the ticket?


He is just as selfish and egotistical as Trump at this point.

And his ego is going to saddle us with trump for another 4 years.


At this point? Who but an egomaniac leaves his severely injured kids to go run around to be a senator? He has been a selfish oaf his entire career. Biggest mistake President Obama ever made was saving him from the end of his lackluster run.
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Biden HAS to bow out.

With him weighing down House and Senate races, it's not just the Presidency he's going to lose for his party.

Picking an alternative, despite the fighting and second-guessing, will give Democrats a chance for all three.

This is a choice between a certain loss and a fighting chance.

If you stick with Biden now, you're voting for Trump.



Biden is in it to win it. He’s staying in.


He has about as much contact with reality as Hitlers bunker.in April 1945.


If your memes were reality you’d be doing a victory dance and not worrying about whether Biden will or will not drop out.


Yeah, that's what I can't figure out either - why the pro-Trump trolls are so angsty and agitated and upset when they should be kicking back and celebrating their win.


It’s because he still can’t win. They need the chaos of Biden dropping out, naming a successor, getting that name on all the ballots, etc. to prevail.

They are desperate. Because demographics have changed such that the “swing voters” aren’t even relevant. All we need to do is get out the vote and they literally cannot win. GA was the canary in the coal mine. They are freaking out.


I will never vote for Trump, but I think you are vastly overconfident about the demographics here. I live in a deep blue state and in the past two weeks I have seen a surge of Trump banners, stickers, etc. in front of houses and on the cars of people who are not remotely in the demographics you seem to believe are locked in for the Democrats. I didn’t even see that in 2016 (and for reference, I knew Trump was going to win in June 2016).

Your hubris is going to be the failure of the Democrats. Do not take people’s votes for granted, particularly the votes of young people who don’t trust the party that has been telling them that Joe Biden is fine.


It’s not hubris to say that the demographic advantage exists and that’s why the Trump trolls aren’t celebrating that Biden is the candidate, but rather trying to push him out. Biden is going to have to prove that he can stay in this and win it, to those young voters especially, and I think he will. That’s said, I don’t think there’s some widespread belief that Biden isn’t just old and had a very bad night, and that there’s some kind of cover-up about a diagnosed condition. I’m just not hearing that.



I'm not sure it's the Trump voters who want Biden out. Die-hard Trumpists are more than happy for Biden to stay in the race. Instead, I think it's coming from self-respecting Americans.


+1 Trump himself is encouraging Biden to stay in race.


Trump absolutely wants Biden. He will win in a landslide if Biden is the candidate.


Then why all the angst and hysteria from pro-Trump posters?
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Anonymous wrote:Why is a lifetime conman and now felon who can’t stay awake on his own trial a nominee? Why isn’t THAT the big story?


Because we all know who he is. Republicans know who he is and like him in spite of/because of those things. And lots of independents are leaning that way.

Biden is not who we thought. We thought he was still there. We have been lied to by the Whitehouse and frankly the majority of the media because it was covering it up by either not asking for more access or asking tough questions. The media, like you, was focused on how bad Trump is but never bothered to dig into the stories of Biden’s struggles or his ever more limited availability for unscripted events. I mean I only just learned after the Debate that he bailed on the G7 dinner. Wtf is that! We are still supposed to the the leader of the free world and he skipped it to rest up! No. No. He HAS to go to things like that. He then tells us after the debate disaster that he needs to go bed by 8pm. No. If that is what he needs, that is ok but then it’s just time to retire. He is NOT entitled to be the President of the United Stated and him staying in the spot is preventing us from having a good candidate who can beat Trump. He is acting like a king right now. He apparently can’t really do the job now and lots of people do not see electing him as any better than electing Trump. And with him in such obvious decline, much as I disagree, that position is not crazy.


I agree with this 100%. The things he said in the interview were
entitled and selfish. He’s only going to step down if God tells him to?! So he gets his power from God like a king? He doesn’t care that a significant number of people who voted for him in 2020 want another Democrat on the ticket?


I really can’t believe he said that. As background about were I am coming to from, I attending a bleeding heart school and I married a young Dem type. Always voted Dem. I am P O’ed. (I was before the debate too bc I don’t want a death in the office).
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So it turns out Biden is just as egotistical as Trump BUT a total spastic disaster at running the country

Trump is the vastly superior President
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Here is why Biden’s dr has lied about his fitness (he’s on the Biden family payroll for unrelated ventures):
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/7/kevin-oconnor-who-gave-joe-biden-glowing-health-re/
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Anonymous wrote:Kamala IS covering for him. She has to have seen the decline. If she really believes he is capable of serving another term, then her judgment is not that of someone who should serve as president.

Reminder:





Ugh her demeanor in the 2nd video especially is just awful.

What? Her demeanor is fine. You people are such weirdos. I guess ya’ll just hate to see a woman smile. Yeah we know ya’ll hate a happy woman. We know.


Kamala Harris is going to get more black male votes for Donald Trump.


Explain? Many don't like her - not because she is a strong black woman - but because of her record in California and in supporting Democrat policies that destroyed their prosperity under Trump.

Black female votes are likely to stay rock solid or increase, but that's not enough.
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kamala IS covering for him. She has to have seen the decline. If she really believes he is capable of serving another term, then her judgment is not that of someone who should serve as president.

Reminder:





Ugh her demeanor in the 2nd video especially is just awful.

What? Her demeanor is fine. You people are such weirdos. I guess ya’ll just hate to see a woman smile. Yeah we know ya’ll hate a happy woman. We know.


Kamala Harris is going to get more black male votes for Donald Trump.


Replace "for" with "than" and you got it.

You're welcome.
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Anonymous wrote:His cabinet will need to do it. If he won’t step aside, they will need to discuss removing him so Kamala can take over and run as an incumbent. Honestly, that is what should happen if anyone in his cabinet had even an ounce of integrity.


This. Right now, per axios, HUNTER is his gatekeeper. That is truly terrifying.
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Polling shows rising pressure for the media to step down.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Biden HAS to bow out.

With him weighing down House and Senate races, it's not just the Presidency he's going to lose for his party.

Picking an alternative, despite the fighting and second-guessing, will give Democrats a chance for all three.

This is a choice between a certain loss and a fighting chance.

If you stick with Biden now, you're voting for Trump.



Biden is in it to win it. He’s staying in.


He has about as much contact with reality as Hitlers bunker.in April 1945.


If your memes were reality you’d be doing a victory dance and not worrying about whether Biden will or will not drop out.


Yeah, that's what I can't figure out either - why the pro-Trump trolls are so angsty and agitated and upset when they should be kicking back and celebrating their win.


It’s because he still can’t win. They need the chaos of Biden dropping out, naming a successor, getting that name on all the ballots, etc. to prevail.

They are desperate. Because demographics have changed such that the “swing voters” aren’t even relevant. All we need to do is get out the vote and they literally cannot win. GA was the canary in the coal mine. They are freaking out.


I will never vote for Trump, but I think you are vastly overconfident about the demographics here. I live in a deep blue state and in the past two weeks I have seen a surge of Trump banners, stickers, etc. in front of houses and on the cars of people who are not remotely in the demographics you seem to believe are locked in for the Democrats. I didn’t even see that in 2016 (and for reference, I knew Trump was going to win in June 2016).

Your hubris is going to be the failure of the Democrats. Do not take people’s votes for granted, particularly the votes of young people who don’t trust the party that has been telling them that Joe Biden is fine.


It’s not hubris to say that the demographic advantage exists and that’s why the Trump trolls aren’t celebrating that Biden is the candidate, but rather trying to push him out. Biden is going to have to prove that he can stay in this and win it, to those young voters especially, and I think he will. That’s said, I don’t think there’s some widespread belief that Biden isn’t just old and had a very bad night, and that there’s some kind of cover-up about a diagnosed condition. I’m just not hearing that.



You aren’t hearing that because you are in a far-left bubble. If you followed non-bubble TikToks, X accounts, or are around a diverse group of Gen Zers (which I frequently am), you would be absolutely hearing about how Biden is cooked, how he has dementia that’s been covered up, etc. Your media bubble is sheltering you from reality.

As for the demographic advantage, you seem to think that it’s somehow a permanent advantage for Democrats. I suspect that you have been one of the DCUM ghouls eagerly awaiting the deaths of older voters in a fantasy that it will lead to permanent Democratic installation. What I am saying is that this is unmitigated hubris, and also shows that you are hermetically sealed in a far-left bubble.


Uh, nope. I have 2 Gen Zers in my house and I see what they see. I also have a pretty diverse social media group, including Trumpers, regular Rs who are anti-Trump, etc. I watched in real time as my black Evangelical friends stopped supporting Trump after Charlottesville and they are still very pro Biden. Do you have any such friends?!?

I await no deaths like a Ghoul, becaue that’s include my own freaking parents. And I don’t think there will be permanent D majority, certainly not if the party doesn’t speak to the majority any longer. I am talking about this election and this one only. Trump is such a fringe whack-a-do that it’s entirely possible and plausible even that Biden beats Trump, as he already has done. That’s all.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kamala IS covering for him. She has to have seen the decline. If she really believes he is capable of serving another term, then her judgment is not that of someone who should serve as president.

Reminder:





Ugh her demeanor in the 2nd video especially is just awful.

What? Her demeanor is fine. You people are such weirdos. I guess ya’ll just hate to see a woman smile. Yeah we know ya’ll hate a happy woman. We know.


Kamala Harris is going to get more black male votes for Donald Trump.


Exactly. Kamala Harris made more fatherless black families than anyone. She championed jailing black men for small amounts of pot possession.
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