Plane etiquette

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

That really says it all.

I mean, do you really care about the person in front of you? Do you care about anyone on the plane whom you don't know? Be honest, now.

This is so weird.

Not weird. You're asking people to prioritize strangers' comfort over their own. Most people are not going to do that.

Except most people find it inconsiderate and consequently don't recline.

Do you have a citation to back up this assertion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/09/opinions/reclining-seat-rage-airplane-passengers-poole/index.html

"I think some passengers need to chill out — people have the right to recline their seat. Nobody has to ask for permission to recline their seat."

"A recliner is allowed to recline, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. If you kick the seat or threaten to punch someone in the face, you’ll be the one removed from the flight — not the person who moved their seat back two inches."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

That really says it all.

I mean, do you really care about the person in front of you? Do you care about anyone on the plane whom you don't know? Be honest, now.

This is so weird.

Not weird. You're asking people to prioritize strangers' comfort over their own. Most people are not going to do that.

Except most people find it inconsiderate and consequently don't recline.

Literally never heard this, nor experienced it in my very frequent travels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not reading 8 pages of this, but let me ask the obvious question:

Did anyone think of asking the person behind you before you recline?

"Asking - The Alternative to Accidentally Being An A**hole."™

Should I also ask before I order a drink? Undo my seatbelt? Grab my luggage? What else would you like to try and control about other people?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not reading 8 pages of this, but let me ask the obvious question:

Did anyone think of asking the person behind you before you recline?

"Asking - The Alternative to Accidentally Being An A**hole."™

It's not that person's decision to make.

Great! I love that attitude! Next time I am standing next to you I am gonna fart long and loud! Because that is my decision to make. And sneeze on you without covering my mouth - because it's my mouth! And make you wait while I close the shop door rather than hold it open for you. Because my rights include the right to be inconsiderate if I choose!

ps - you are nearly everything wrong with the world and you have absolutely no idea of that. It has nothing to do with whose decision it is to make, of course it is yours, but there is a thing called common courtesy that most people care about, except sociopaths like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

That really says it all.

I mean, do you really care about the person in front of you? Do you care about anyone on the plane whom you don't know? Be honest, now.

I try to be considerate of everyone. But if someone is inconsiderate to me, and demonstrates that they don;t care at all about me, I feel no obligation, or inclination, to maintain that stance. In that case, no, I don't care if they get jostled about a bit.

But see, I don't think reclining is inconsiderate. That's the difference. Reasonable minds can differ on this.

Absolutely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not reading 8 pages of this, but let me ask the obvious question:

Did anyone think of asking the person behind you before you recline?

"Asking - The Alternative to Accidentally Being An A**hole."™

Should I also ask before I order a drink? Undo my seatbelt? Grab my luggage? What else would you like to try and control about other people?

Nobody said anything about control, you delicate snowflake.

It's about common courtesy and being sentient of the needs of people around you.

But you just keep hitting that elevator "door close" button as fast as you can. Hitting it more times makes it close faster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

That really says it all.

I mean, do you really care about the person in front of you? Do you care about anyone on the plane whom you don't know? Be honest, now.

This is so weird.

Not weird. You're asking people to prioritize strangers' comfort over their own. Most people are not going to do that.

Except most people find it inconsiderate and consequently don't recline.

Do you have a citation to back up this assertion?

Not that poster and don’t really have a cite except that obviously the fact that CNN is writing an article about conflict over it indicates it’s not an uncommon view.

I would say it as many people think that in certain circumstances fully reclining is fine but in other circumstances it is inconsiderate.

Of course other people are in the “feel free to do whatever you want whenever you want” camp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not reading 8 pages of this, but let me ask the obvious question:

Did anyone think of asking the person behind you before you recline?

"Asking - The Alternative to Accidentally Being An A**hole."™

Should I also ask before I order a drink? Undo my seatbelt? Grab my luggage? What else would you like to try and control about other people?

Nobody said anything about control, you delicate snowflake.

It's about common courtesy and being sentient of the needs of people around you.

But you just keep hitting that elevator "door close" button as fast as you can. Hitting it more times makes it close faster.

You want someone to ask for your blessing before they do something that requires 0% permission from you. That is you, trying to control what other people do.
I'm guessing the person b****ing about recliners and not being provided a 3 page document outlining their intentions to recline is far more a "snowflake" than a person who.. reclines in a reclining chair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not reading 8 pages of this, but let me ask the obvious question:

Did anyone think of asking the person behind you before you recline?

"Asking - The Alternative to Accidentally Being An A**hole."™

Should I also ask before I order a drink? Undo my seatbelt? Grab my luggage? What else would you like to try and control about other people?

Nobody said anything about control, you delicate snowflake.

It's about common courtesy and being sentient of the needs of people around you.

But you just keep hitting that elevator "door close" button as fast as you can. Hitting it more times makes it close faster.

You want someone to ask for your blessing before they do something that requires 0% permission from you. That is you, trying to control what other people do.

No. I am suggesting that this entire issue can be closed if people were just considerate and asked if it was OK. My instinct says that nearly everyone would say "sure" and then this wouldn't be a problem, would it? Simple solution.

I'm guessing the person b****ing about recliners and not being provided a 3 page document outlining their intentions to recline is far more a "snowflake" than a person who.. reclines in a reclining chair.

No, you are the bigger snowflake, because you turned a simple suggestion of demonstrated courtesy into a hyperbolic crisis of your fundamental rights being taken away. It ain't all about you pal, we're all on the same flight. Try to be one of the nice ones. Is that so hard?

[Anonymous]

I'm barely 5'2". I've never understood all the complaining about not enough leg room, or having to sit in the middle seat. I always have plenty of room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not reading 8 pages of this, but let me ask the obvious question:

Did anyone think of asking the person behind you before you recline?

"Asking - The Alternative to Accidentally Being An A**hole."™

Should I also ask before I order a drink? Undo my seatbelt? Grab my luggage? What else would you like to try and control about other people?

Nobody said anything about control, you delicate snowflake.

It's about common courtesy and being sentient of the needs of people around you.

But you just keep hitting that elevator "door close" button as fast as you can. Hitting it more times makes it close faster.

You want someone to ask for your blessing before they do something that requires 0% permission from you. That is you, trying to control what other people do.

No. I am suggesting that this entire issue can be closed if people were just considerate and asked if it was OK. My instinct says that nearly everyone would say "sure" and then this wouldn't be a problem, would it? Simple solution.

I'm guessing the person b****ing about recliners and not being provided a 3 page document outlining their intentions to recline is far more a "snowflake" than a person who.. reclines in a reclining chair.

No, you are the bigger snowflake, because you turned a simple suggestion of demonstrated courtesy into a hyperbolic crisis of your fundamental rights being taken away. It ain't all about you pal, we're all on the same flight. Try to be one of the nice ones. Is that so hard?

And all the rabid anti-recliners who say no? What then? Why am I asking for permission (which yes, is what you are suggesting) for something that the seat literally does? No one asks permission to use the seat back entertainment, even if it annoys the person in front.

Your assertation that because someone reclines they are not "nice" is just simply incorrect. I'm not talking about a fundamental right being taken away - because it's not being taken away. Its there. It's a button the side of the arm rest. If it's there, and works, its able to be used. But it does sound like you are trying to take that away from people, since that is literally the words you used.

Fly budget airlines that don't recline, or buy a bulkhead seat if you dont want people reclining in front of you. Leave the rest of us alone

[Anonymous]

Last row in first class (on certain planes) is my favorite spot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not reading 8 pages of this, but let me ask the obvious question:

Did anyone think of asking the person behind you before you recline?

"Asking - The Alternative to Accidentally Being An A**hole."™

It's not that person's decision to make.

Great! I love that attitude! Next time I am standing next to you I am gonna fart long and loud! Because that is my decision to make. And sneeze on you without covering my mouth - because it's my mouth! And make you wait while I close the shop door rather than hold it open for you. Because my rights include the right to be inconsiderate if I choose!

ps - you are nearly everything wrong with the world and you have absolutely no idea of that. It has nothing to do with whose decision it is to make, of course it is yours, but there is a thing called common courtesy that most people care about, except sociopaths like you.

Again, I simply disagree that reclining is inconsiderate. It's not a generally held idea, like sneezing without covering one's mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not reading 8 pages of this, but let me ask the obvious question:

Did anyone think of asking the person behind you before you recline?

"Asking - The Alternative to Accidentally Being An A**hole."™

I don't recline but I wouldn't ask. I don't want to engage a stranger in an enclosed space these days on something that is a bit of a controversial issue. I only engage for clearly positive things (someone dropping something, an elderly person needing help with luggage...).