UofM vs Northwestern

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

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"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Agree with this take. Don’t get me wrong, Michigan is a fantastic school, but for some reason it seems to get a huge amount of hype on DCUM. Northwestern comparatively seems a bit underrated on DCUM.

Because, as a PP noted, UM is literally top 10 in every major it offers. It has across the board excellence in every discipline.

This is only true in the last 10-15 years. Historically, Michigan has had a laughably weak college of Letters and Science, which explains why really no notable academics have ever come out of Michigan. If I look at UChicago, I see academics such as Leo Strauss, Friedman, Carl Sagan. If I look at Wisconsin, I see Robert Serber, John Bardeen, and Stephen Ambrose. Michigan has never produced faculty of that caliber. I mean, maybe something akin to that in business or law, but those really are bs subjects anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

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"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Michigan is known for academic excellence, particularly in the Midwest. Yes, it’s also known for football. They just won the national championship. Naturally it’s going to brought up in a conversation. Northwestern hasn’t sustained athletic excellence in any major sport throughout its history. If it did, that conversation would be included. “That’s a good football school,” is like lumping Michigan in with a school like Alabama.

Well, no.

Midwesterners view michigan as a fun, football party school.

They view northwestern as a prestigious elite academic schools.

I was honestly really surprised whe we relocated here, and saw how regarded Michigan was in this area. Michigan is known as a giant sports school to midwesterners.

Who are you kidding? You’ve never asked anyone from the Midwest about Michigan. I lived in the Midwest for over 50 years. Everyone knows it’s a great school.

Um, I am from the midwest. My family all lives in the midwest. I am currently visiting the midwest.

I stand by my observation that Michigan is viewed by those in the midwest as a big flagship football school, and only differentiating itself from the other state flagship schools because of football.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Michigan is known for academic excellence, particularly in the Midwest. Yes, it’s also known for football. They just won the national championship. Naturally it’s going to brought up in a conversation. Northwestern hasn’t sustained athletic excellence in any major sport throughout its history. If it did, that conversation would be included. “That’s a good football school,” is like lumping Michigan in with a school like Alabama.

Well, no.

Midwesterners view michigan as a fun, football party school.

They view northwestern as a prestigious elite academic schools.

I was honestly really surprised whe we relocated here, and saw how regarded Michigan was in this area. Michigan is known as a giant sports school to midwesterners.

Who are you kidding? You’ve never asked anyone from the Midwest about Michigan. I lived in the Midwest for over 50 years. Everyone knows it’s a great school.

I’m a DP but I agree with the person you’re responding to. Of course, Michigan is viewed as a great school, but it’s largely seen as a behemoth of a state school that’s big in football and has a lot of school spirit. Northwestern is viewed as a prestigious, socially elite school. Northwestern & UChicago are Ivy League proxies in the Midwest.

That isn’t to detract from Michigan, and one shouldn’t choose one school over the other just based on flighty notions of prestige.

Northwestern, U of Chicago and WashU are viewed as the ivy equivalent schools in the midwest, by midwesterners.

Michigan is viewed as a great state school, but not much different than KU, Mizzou, Illinois, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Michigan is known for academic excellence, particularly in the Midwest. Yes, it’s also known for football. They just won the national championship. Naturally it’s going to brought up in a conversation. Northwestern hasn’t sustained athletic excellence in any major sport throughout its history. If it did, that conversation would be included. “That’s a good football school,” is like lumping Michigan in with a school like Alabama.

Well, no.

Midwesterners view michigan as a fun, football party school.

They view northwestern as a prestigious elite academic schools.

I was honestly really surprised whe we relocated here, and saw how regarded Michigan was in this area. Michigan is known as a giant sports school to midwesterners.

Who are you kidding? You’ve never asked anyone from the Midwest about Michigan. I lived in the Midwest for over 50 years. Everyone knows it’s a great school.

I’m a DP but I agree with the person you’re responding to. Of course, Michigan is viewed as a great school, but it’s largely seen as a behemoth of a state school that’s big in football and has a lot of school spirit. Northwestern is viewed as a prestigious, socially elite school. Northwestern & UChicago are Ivy League proxies in the Midwest.

That isn’t to detract from Michigan, and one shouldn’t choose one school over the other just based on flighty notions of prestige.

Northwestern, U of Chicago and WashU are viewed as the ivy equivalent schools in the midwest, by midwesterners.

Michigan is viewed as a great state school, but not much different than KU, Mizzou, Illinois, etc.

You people are on drugs…seriously!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Agree with this take. Don’t get me wrong, Michigan is a fantastic school, but for some reason it seems to get a huge amount of hype on DCUM. Northwestern comparatively seems a bit underrated on DCUM.

Because, as a PP noted, UM is literally top 10 in every major it offers. It has across the board excellence in every discipline.

This is only true in the last 10-15 years. Historically, Michigan has had a laughably weak college of Letters and Science, which explains why really no notable academics have ever come out of Michigan. If I look at UChicago, I see academics such as Leo Strauss, Friedman, Carl Sagan. If I look at Wisconsin, I see Robert Serber, John Bardeen, and Stephen Ambrose. Michigan has never produced faculty of that caliber. I mean, maybe something akin to that in business or law, but those really are bs subjects anyway.

The Wisconsin booster back again. Same old crap.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Michigan is known for academic excellence, particularly in the Midwest. Yes, it’s also known for football. They just won the national championship. Naturally it’s going to brought up in a conversation. Northwestern hasn’t sustained athletic excellence in any major sport throughout its history. If it did, that conversation would be included. “That’s a good football school,” is like lumping Michigan in with a school like Alabama.

Well, no.

Midwesterners view michigan as a fun, football party school.

They view northwestern as a prestigious elite academic schools.

I was honestly really surprised whe we relocated here, and saw how regarded Michigan was in this area. Michigan is known as a giant sports school to midwesterners.

Who are you kidding? You’ve never asked anyone from the Midwest about Michigan. I lived in the Midwest for over 50 years. Everyone knows it’s a great school.

Um, I am from the midwest. My family all lives in the midwest. I am currently visiting the midwest.

I stand by my observation that Michigan is viewed by those in the midwest as a big flagship football school, and only differentiating itself from the other state flagship schools because of football.

Let me guess, one of the Great Plain states.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Michigan is known for academic excellence, particularly in the Midwest. Yes, it’s also known for football. They just won the national championship. Naturally it’s going to brought up in a conversation. Northwestern hasn’t sustained athletic excellence in any major sport throughout its history. If it did, that conversation would be included. “That’s a good football school,” is like lumping Michigan in with a school like Alabama.

Well, no.

Midwesterners view michigan as a fun, football party school.

They view northwestern as a prestigious elite academic schools.

I was honestly really surprised whe we relocated here, and saw how regarded Michigan was in this area. Michigan is known as a giant sports school to midwesterners.

Who are you kidding? You’ve never asked anyone from the Midwest about Michigan. I lived in the Midwest for over 50 years. Everyone knows it’s a great school.

I’m a DP but I agree with the person you’re responding to. Of course, Michigan is viewed as a great school, but it’s largely seen as a behemoth of a state school that’s big in football and has a lot of school spirit. Northwestern is viewed as a prestigious, socially elite school. Northwestern & UChicago are Ivy League proxies in the Midwest.

That isn’t to detract from Michigan, and one shouldn’t choose one school over the other just based on flighty notions of prestige.

Northwestern, U of Chicago and WashU are viewed as the ivy equivalent schools in the midwest, by midwesterners.

Michigan is viewed as a great state school, but not much different than KU, Mizzou, Illinois, etc.

You people are on drugs…seriously!

I agree. It’s embarrassing already. Michigan is highly ranked in every major publication both foreign and domestic. It’s obvious that the above remark was sent by smeone who lives in a state without a superlative public.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Agree with this take. Don’t get me wrong, Michigan is a fantastic school, but for some reason it seems to get a huge amount of hype on DCUM. Northwestern comparatively seems a bit underrated on DCUM.

Because, as a PP noted, UM is literally top 10 in every major it offers. It has across the board excellence in every discipline.

This is only true in the last 10-15 years. Historically, Michigan has had a laughably weak college of Letters and Science, which explains why really no notable academics have ever come out of Michigan. If I look at UChicago, I see academics such as Leo Strauss, Friedman, Carl Sagan. If I look at Wisconsin, I see Robert Serber, John Bardeen, and Stephen Ambrose. Michigan has never produced faculty of that caliber. I mean, maybe something akin to that in business or law, but those really are bs subjects anyway.

The Wisconsin booster back again. Same old crap.

I mean he's not wrong...Michigan boosters always ignore the fact that for the last century Michigan strongly competed with Wisconsin. Yes, things have changed in the 21st century, however you can't just act like Michigan has always been the lone good public; to do so is about as intellectually honest as climate change deniers.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Agree with this take. Don’t get me wrong, Michigan is a fantastic school, but for some reason it seems to get a huge amount of hype on DCUM. Northwestern comparatively seems a bit underrated on DCUM.

Because, as a PP noted, UM is literally top 10 in every major it offers. It has across the board excellence in every discipline.

This is only true in the last 10-15 years. Historically, Michigan has had a laughably weak college of Letters and Science, which explains why really no notable academics have ever come out of Michigan. If I look at UChicago, I see academics such as Leo Strauss, Friedman, Carl Sagan. If I look at Wisconsin, I see Robert Serber, John Bardeen, and Stephen Ambrose. Michigan has never produced faculty of that caliber. I mean, maybe something akin to that in business or law, but those really are bs subjects anyway.

https://publicuniversityhonors.com/2011/12/04/universities-with-highest-percentage-of-national-academy-members/#:~:text=Universities%20with%20Highest%20Percentage%20of%20National%20Academy%20Members,Santa%20Barbara%208%208.%20UC%20Irvine%20More%20items


Michigan #3

Wisconsin #5

Just another area where Wisconsin comes up just a bit short of Michigan.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Agree with this take. Don’t get me wrong, Michigan is a fantastic school, but for some reason it seems to get a huge amount of hype on DCUM. Northwestern comparatively seems a bit underrated on DCUM.

Because, as a PP noted, UM is literally top 10 in every major it offers. It has across the board excellence in every discipline.

This is only true in the last 10-15 years. Historically, Michigan has had a laughably weak college of Letters and Science, which explains why really no notable academics have ever come out of Michigan. If I look at UChicago, I see academics such as Leo Strauss, Friedman, Carl Sagan. If I look at Wisconsin, I see Robert Serber, John Bardeen, and Stephen Ambrose. Michigan has never produced faculty of that caliber. I mean, maybe something akin to that in business or law, but those really are bs subjects anyway.

The Wisconsin booster back again. Same old crap.

I mean he's not wrong...Michigan boosters always ignore the fact that for the last century Michigan strongly competed with Wisconsin. Yes, things have changed in the 21st century, however you can't just act like Michigan has always been the lone good public; to do so is about as intellectually honest as climate change deniers.

You like to support your own statements. It’s kind of cute.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Agree with this take. Don’t get me wrong, Michigan is a fantastic school, but for some reason it seems to get a huge amount of hype on DCUM. Northwestern comparatively seems a bit underrated on DCUM.

Because, as a PP noted, UM is literally top 10 in every major it offers. It has across the board excellence in every discipline.

This is only true in the last 10-15 years. Historically, Michigan has had a laughably weak college of Letters and Science, which explains why really no notable academics have ever come out of Michigan. If I look at UChicago, I see academics such as Leo Strauss, Friedman, Carl Sagan. If I look at Wisconsin, I see Robert Serber, John Bardeen, and Stephen Ambrose. Michigan has never produced faculty of that caliber. I mean, maybe something akin to that in business or law, but those really are bs subjects anyway.

The Wisconsin booster back again. Same old crap.

I mean he's not wrong...Michigan boosters always ignore the fact that for the last century Michigan strongly competed with Wisconsin. Yes, things have changed in the 21st century, however you can't just act like Michigan has always been the lone good public; to do so is about as intellectually honest as climate change deniers.

Michigan isn’t the lone good public. There’s also Berkeley and UCLA.

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How did The University of Wisconsin get inserted into a conversation between NU and Michigan? Michigan instate for Engineering gets my vote.

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Anonymous wrote:How did The University of Wisconsin get inserted into a conversation between NU and Michigan? Michigan instate for Engineering gets my vote.

I think it is because the Michigan poster cannot fathom that in the midwest, Michigan is viewed as an equivalent to most of the other state flagships (adding Wisconsin to the above list) that is mostly recognized for having the best football.

Those out here who are spending 80K on out of state tuition for a public university because they were waitlisted at VT or UMD cannot fathom that while respected in the Midwest, Michigan is not.thought to be this untouchable school standing alone, and is mostly revered for football.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.

That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.

Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.

It is interesting.

We are here in the midwest this week for admitted student days at both schools, with a family visit over spring break in the middle.

The response around here is "Oh, wow. Northwestern! Congratulations!"

Vs

"Cool, Michigan! That is a good football school."

Michigan is known for academic excellence, particularly in the Midwest. Yes, it’s also known for football. They just won the national championship. Naturally it’s going to brought up in a conversation. Northwestern hasn’t sustained athletic excellence in any major sport throughout its history. If it did, that conversation would be included. “That’s a good football school,” is like lumping Michigan in with a school like Alabama.

Well, no.

Midwesterners view michigan as a fun, football party school.

They view northwestern as a prestigious elite academic schools.

I was honestly really surprised whe we relocated here, and saw how regarded Michigan was in this area. Michigan is known as a giant sports school to midwesterners.

Who are you kidding? You’ve never asked anyone from the Midwest about Michigan. I lived in the Midwest for over 50 years. Everyone knows it’s a great school.

I’m a DP but I agree with the person you’re responding to. Of course, Michigan is viewed as a great school, but it’s largely seen as a behemoth of a state school that’s big in football and has a lot of school spirit. Northwestern is viewed as a prestigious, socially elite school. Northwestern & UChicago are Ivy League proxies in the Midwest.

That isn’t to detract from Michigan, and one shouldn’t choose one school over the other just based on flighty notions of prestige.

Northwestern, U of Chicago and WashU are viewed as the ivy equivalent schools in the midwest, by midwesterners.

Michigan is viewed as a great state school, but not much different than KU, Mizzou, Illinois, etc.

Oof, WashU alum/parent alert. Sadly, WashU is not really in the conversation. Certainly not among lay folks. And in any case, this is a conversation about UMich and NW.

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Anonymous wrote:How did The University of Wisconsin get inserted into a conversation between NU and Michigan? Michigan instate for Engineering gets my vote.

I think it is because the Michigan poster cannot fathom that in the midwest, Michigan is viewed as an equivalent to most of the other state flagships (adding Wisconsin to the above list) that is mostly recognized for having the best football.

Those out here who are spending 80K on out of state tuition for a public university because they were waitlisted at VT or UMD cannot fathom that while respected in the Midwest, Michigan is not.thought to be this untouchable school standing alone, and is mostly revered for football.

Nobody said Michigan was untouchable in the Midwest among publics. It’s just generally acknowledged as the top state flagship in the region. Money talks, your hyperbolic statement aside. Michigan gets 80K from OOS because it can. Wisconsin could only dream about getting that level of OOS tuition. They even have a reciprocal tuition agreement with Minnesota because they aren’t able to pull in top dollar from that state. Michigan does no such thing. They don’t need to. The biggest feeder state to Michigan, after California, is Illinois by the way.

https://ro.umich.edu/reports/enrollment-report/enrollment-geographic-location/enrollment-geographic-location

Look at those Illinois numbers of students who refused to go with instate UIUC. It’s not because most were rejected or waitlisted from their flagship. Illinois has an overall acceptance rate of 44%, and around 62% for instate alone, both much higher than Michigan. Ohio is also among the top ten states sending students to Michigan. Mostly full pay too.