Gold Star dad Steve Nikoui arrested after heckling Biden at SOTU address

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They could have just removed him. Why arrest him? Did the protesters outside get arrested? The folks screaming “4 more years” get arrested?


Go to law school.

Members of Congress don’t get arrested in the House Chamber because of the Speech and Debate Caluse of the Constitution. Which MYTG, who also didn’t get arrested, should be grateful for.

Protestors outside were in a first amendment “public streets and sidewalks” zone.

He broke the law. His supporters say he did so intentionally and to score political points. Laws have consequences. Members of Congress and protestors outside were not breaking the law.

And the “party of law and order” seems awfully upset bout Capitol Police enforcing law and order.


You learned in law school that blocking roads is a first amendment right?

ACLU:


KNOW YOUR RIGHTS

Protesters’ Rights
The First Amendment protects your right to assemble and express your views through protest. However, police and other government officials are allowed to place certain narrow restrictions on the exercise of speech rights. Make sure you’re prepared by brushing up on your rights before heading out into the streets.

Do I need a permit?

You don’t need a permit to march in the streets or on sidewalks, as long as marchers don’t obstruct car or pedestrian traffic. If you don’t have a permit, police officers can ask you to move to the side of a street or sidewalk to let others pass or for safety reasons.
Certain types of events may require permits. These include a march or parade that requires blocking traffic or street closure; a large rally requiring the use of sound amplifying devices; or a rally over a certain size at most parks or plazas.

I’m attending a protest

Your rights

Your rights are strongest in what are known as “traditional public forums,” such as streets, sidewalks, and parks. You also likely have the right to speak out on other public property, like plazas in front of government buildings, as long as you are not blocking access to the government building or interfering with other purposes the property was designed for.

You don’t need a permit to march in the streets or on sidewalks, as long as marchers don’t obstruct car or pedestrian traffic. If you don’t have a permit, police officers can ask you to move to the side of a street or sidewalk to let others pass or for safety reasons.

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights#im-attending-a-protest

No, Blocking Traffic Is Not Protected by the First Amendment
The freedom to protest is essential to the American project. It also does not give you carte blanche to violate other laws.

BILLY BINION | 1.26.2024 3:39 PM

And the ACLU, also involved in the settlement, acknowledges in its own guidance that detaining people by blocking a roadway is not a legal, First Amendment–protected activity.


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Thirteen service members were killed in the Kabul airport bombing on Aug. 26, 2021. Top Row from left: Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola, 20, of Rancho Cucamonga, Cpl. Hunter Lopez, 22, of Indio, and Cpl. Kareem M. Nikoui, 20, of Norco. Middle Row from left: Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover, 31, of Salt Lake City, Utah, Cpl. Daegan W. Page, 23, of Omaha, Nebraska, Sgt. Johanny Rosario Pichardo, 25, of Lawrence, Massachusetts Cpl. Humberto A. Sanchez, 22, of Logansport, Indiana, and Lance Cpl. David L. Espinoza, 20, of Rio Bravo, Texas. Bottom Row from left: Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz, 20, of St. Charles, Missouri, Lance Cpl. Rylee J. McCollum, 20, of Jackson, Wyoming, Navy Corpsman, Maxton W. Soviak, 22, of Berlin Heights, Ohio, Army Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss, 23, of Corryton, Tennessee and Sgt. Nicole L. Gee, 23, of Roseville, California.


[/b]No one cares. How many kids are dead due to assault rifle wielding magas shooting up schools?


Heed this warning. They are literally telling you they don't care.


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You think Sandy Hook and Uvalde are clown car issues and only Democrats care? That says something about Republicans. And it isn’t good. But, it raises. Good question. Okay if a parent of school shooting victim had heckled Trump? Or no?


It says you are not following tos and taking this thread off topic repeatedly, on purpose.


[b]DP... why should we ONLY care about the death of this one guy in Afghanistan and nobody else?


It's pure politicization that you think the discussion needs to be hyperconstrained to this and this only at the expense of everything else. And, we keep bringing up mass shootings because those issues have been around for much much longer and responsible for many many more deaths and have not been addressed or answered in any way, shape or form. So if you want to bring up Nikoui how about YOU take a number and get in line and wait till our issues have been addressed.


DP
"One guy?" There were 13 men and women who died at Abbey Gate in Afghanistan. Their photos have been posted multiple times in this thread, including in the history chain of the post you responded to.
Yet you completely forgot about TWELVE of them? Way to prove the gold star father's point.



And 170 innocent Afghan civilians, many of them children.
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is what fascists do. And why they want censorship and cripple gun rights. Trump is the antidote


Shouting and disrupting a State of the Union address is its own form of censorship. So by your own definition Nikoui is a fascist?
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Thirteen service members were killed in the Kabul airport bombing on Aug. 26, 2021. Top Row from left: Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola, 20, of Rancho Cucamonga, Cpl. Hunter Lopez, 22, of Indio, and Cpl. Kareem M. Nikoui, 20, of Norco. Middle Row from left: Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover, 31, of Salt Lake City, Utah, Cpl. Daegan W. Page, 23, of Omaha, Nebraska, Sgt. Johanny Rosario Pichardo, 25, of Lawrence, Massachusetts Cpl. Humberto A. Sanchez, 22, of Logansport, Indiana, and Lance Cpl. David L. Espinoza, 20, of Rio Bravo, Texas. Bottom Row from left: Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz, 20, of St. Charles, Missouri, Lance Cpl. Rylee J. McCollum, 20, of Jackson, Wyoming, Navy Corpsman, Maxton W. Soviak, 22, of Berlin Heights, Ohio, Army Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss, 23, of Corryton, Tennessee and Sgt. Nicole L. Gee, 23, of Roseville, California.


[/b]No one cares. How many kids are dead due to assault rifle wielding magas shooting up schools?


Heed this warning. They are literally telling you they don't care.


IMG-9131


You think Sandy Hook and Uvalde are clown car issues and only Democrats care? That says something about Republicans. And it isn’t good. But, it raises. Good question. Okay if a parent of school shooting victim had heckled Trump? Or no?


It says you are not following tos and taking this thread off topic repeatedly, on purpose.


[b]DP... why should we ONLY care about the death of this one guy in Afghanistan and nobody else?


It's pure politicization that you think the discussion needs to be hyperconstrained to this and this only at the expense of everything else. And, we keep bringing up mass shootings because those issues have been around for much much longer and responsible for many many more deaths and have not been addressed or answered in any way, shape or form. So if you want to bring up Nikoui how about YOU take a number and get in line and wait till our issues have been addressed.


DP
"One guy?" There were 13 men and women who died at Abbey Gate in Afghanistan. Their photos have been posted multiple times in this thread, including in the history chain of the post you responded to.
Yet you completely forgot about TWELVE of them? Way to prove the gold star father's point.



And 170 innocent Afghan civilians, many of them children.
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Did Biden blow them up? Nope. Trump's buddies, the Taliban did that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what fascists do. And why they want censorship and cripple gun rights. Trump is the antidote


Shouting and disrupting a State of the Union address is its own form of censorship. So by your own definition Nikoui is a fascist?


He wasn’t shouting to stop Biden from speaking. Were the people screaming 4 more years censoring Biden?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what fascists do. And why they want censorship and cripple gun rights. Trump is the antidote


Shouting and disrupting a State of the Union address is its own form of censorship. So by your own definition Nikoui is a fascist?


He wasn’t shouting to stop Biden from speaking. Were the people screaming 4 more years censoring Biden?



Yes he was. He was trying to interrupt Biden.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what fascists do. And why they want censorship and cripple gun rights. Trump is the antidote


Shouting and disrupting a State of the Union address is its own form of censorship. So by your own definition Nikoui is a fascist?


He wasn’t shouting to stop Biden from speaking. Were the people screaming 4 more years censoring Biden?



Yes he was. He was trying to interrupt Biden.


Biden was interrupted constantly- but only one person arrested, the Gold Star Dad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:IMG-9083

Thirteen service members were killed in the Kabul airport bombing on Aug. 26, 2021. Top Row from left: Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola, 20, of Rancho Cucamonga, Cpl. Hunter Lopez, 22, of Indio, and Cpl. Kareem M. Nikoui, 20, of Norco. Middle Row from left: Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover, 31, of Salt Lake City, Utah, Cpl. Daegan W. Page, 23, of Omaha, Nebraska, Sgt. Johanny Rosario Pichardo, 25, of Lawrence, Massachusetts Cpl. Humberto A. Sanchez, 22, of Logansport, Indiana, and Lance Cpl. David L. Espinoza, 20, of Rio Bravo, Texas. Bottom Row from left: Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz, 20, of St. Charles, Missouri, Lance Cpl. Rylee J. McCollum, 20, of Jackson, Wyoming, Navy Corpsman, Maxton W. Soviak, 22, of Berlin Heights, Ohio, Army Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss, 23, of Corryton, Tennessee and Sgt. Nicole L. Gee, 23, of Roseville, California.


[/b]No one cares. How many kids are dead due to assault rifle wielding magas shooting up schools?


Heed this warning. They are literally telling you they don't care.


IMG-9131


You think Sandy Hook and Uvalde are clown car issues and only Democrats care? That says something about Republicans. And it isn’t good. But, it raises. Good question. Okay if a parent of school shooting victim had heckled Trump? Or no?


It says you are not following tos and taking this thread off topic repeatedly, on purpose.


[b]DP... why should we ONLY care about the death of this one guy in Afghanistan and nobody else?


It's pure politicization that you think the discussion needs to be hyperconstrained to this and this only at the expense of everything else. And, we keep bringing up mass shootings because those issues have been around for much much longer and responsible for many many more deaths and have not been addressed or answered in any way, shape or form. So if you want to bring up Nikoui how about YOU take a number and get in line and wait till our issues have been addressed.


DP
"One guy?" There were 13 men and women who died at Abbey Gate in Afghanistan. Their photos have been posted multiple times in this thread, including in the history chain of the post you responded to.
Yet you completely forgot about TWELVE of them? Way to prove the gold star father's point.



And 170 innocent Afghan civilians, many of them children.
IMG-9132


Did Biden blow them up? Nope. Trump's buddies, the Taliban did that.


And Trump went behind our allies backs and unilaterally set the terms for the US withdrawal - without consulting the Afghans or any of our other allies operating in Afghanistan. And then dismantled all of the infrastructure needed for withdrawal. Officials testified that "the cupboards were left bare." Frankly it's a miracle that a whole lot more American troops didn't get killed in the withdrawal with what a mess Trump forced on us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what fascists do. And why they want censorship and cripple gun rights. Trump is the antidote


Shouting and disrupting a State of the Union address is its own form of censorship. So by your own definition Nikoui is a fascist?


He wasn’t shouting to stop Biden from speaking. Were the people screaming 4 more years censoring Biden?



Yes he was. He was trying to interrupt Biden.


Biden was interrupted constantly- but only one person arrested, the Gold Star Dad.


The other guests who disrupted the SOTU either ceased to do so or left when Capitol Police asked them to stop. Nikoui did not stop when they asked him to. That's why he got arrested and the others didn't. If you continue protesting after being asked by law enforcement to stop you get arrested. https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/sections/22-1307
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what fascists do. And why they want censorship and cripple gun rights. Trump is the antidote


Shouting and disrupting a State of the Union address is its own form of censorship. So by your own definition Nikoui is a fascist?


They use words they don’t understand. It’s fascinating how upside they get the examples.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what fascists do. And why they want censorship and cripple gun rights. Trump is the antidote


Shouting and disrupting a State of the Union address is its own form of censorship. So by your own definition Nikoui is a fascist?


He wasn’t shouting to stop Biden from speaking. Were the people screaming 4 more years censoring Biden?



Yes he was. He was trying to interrupt Biden.


Biden was interrupted constantly- but only one person arrested, the Gold Star Dad.


The other guests who disrupted the SOTU either ceased to do so or left when Capitol Police asked them to stop. Nikoui did not stop when they asked him to. That's why he got arrested and the others didn't. If you continue protesting after being asked by law enforcement to stop you get arrested. https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/sections/22-1307


Liar.

“America’s safer today than when I took office,” Biden, 81, was in the middle of saying before he was interrupted from the chamber’s balcony.

“Abbey Gate!” Steve Nikoui yelled down at the president. “Second Battalion, First Marines!”

Capitol Police escorted Nikoui, 51, out of the chamber around 10:15 p.m. and took him into custody.

He walked out himself. He didn’t continue to protest.

The moderator is blocking video of the incident and arrest.

Youtube-> Politico-> 24 second video clip.

You will see the above poster is a liar with your own eyes.

Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what fascists do. And why they want censorship and cripple gun rights. Trump is the antidote


Shouting and disrupting a State of the Union address is its own form of censorship. So by your own definition Nikoui is a fascist?


He wasn’t shouting to stop Biden from speaking. Were the people screaming 4 more years censoring Biden?



Yes he was. He was trying to interrupt Biden.


Biden was interrupted constantly- but only one person arrested, the Gold Star Dad.


The other guests who disrupted the SOTU either ceased to do so or left when Capitol Police asked them to stop. Nikoui did not stop when they asked him to. That's why he got arrested and the others didn't. If you continue protesting after being asked by law enforcement to stop you get arrested. https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/sections/22-1307


Liar.

“America’s safer today than when I took office,” Biden, 81, was in the middle of saying before he was interrupted from the chamber’s balcony.

“Abbey Gate!” Steve Nikoui yelled down at the president. “Second Battalion, First Marines!”

Capitol Police escorted Nikoui, 51, out of the chamber around 10:15 p.m. and took him into custody.

He walked out himself. He didn’t continue to protest.

The moderator is blocking video of the incident and arrest.

Youtube-> Politico-> 24 second video clip.

You will see the above poster is a liar with your own eyes.



False. He continued to shout after being asked by officers to stop.

"Tonight at approximately 10:15 p.m., a man disrupted the State of the Union Address by yelling," a Capitol Police spokesperson told Axios.
"Our officers warned him to stop and when he did not, the man was removed from the House Galleries and was arrested."

https://www.axios.com/2024/03/08/state-of-the-union-biden-speech-heckler-charged

Also, he didn't stop on his own, nor did he leave on his own, he was escorted out by police and that can be seen in the video below.



So now we see who's the liar here - it's YOU.
Anonymous
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/father-of-slain-southern-california-marine-escorted-out-of-state-of-the-union-address/

Video on CBS website above.

You will see the Gold Star father yell, and then turn to the Capitol police and walk out without the police even touching him.
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