NVA (Loudoun) going MLS NEXT?

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Any more news on this?

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Anonymous wrote:This is news to us! My DS currently plays at NVA and we had no idea this is potentially happening. My DS would rather play MLS Next, let’s hope this rumor is true!

Yes they are going to MLS next and the girls are going to GA. ECNL won't allow 2nd teams.

Not true. ECNL does allow its boys teams to be second teams. You just have to get their ok.

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Anonymous wrote:This is news to us! My DS currently plays at NVA and we had no idea this is potentially happening. My DS would rather play MLS Next, let’s hope this rumor is true!

Yes they are going to MLS next and the girls are going to GA. ECNL won't allow 2nd teams.

Not true. ECNL does allow its boys teams to be second teams. You just have to get their ok.

No they don't. Ask PDA and FC Delco.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people just don’t want to acknowledging how bad the Alexandria MLS teams currently are. Cant blame them. Hopefully the future is better for that club.

Among MLS Next teams in area (other than DCU), only the following are ranked higher in each group

05/06: Bethesda, Armour (barely)

07: Nobody

08: Armour

09: SYC, Bethesda, Armour

10: SYC, Bethesda, Armour

011: SYC (barely)

So Armour is ahead in 4/6, Bethesda and SYC are ahead in 3/6. I'd say that's pretty solid.

Yeah. I think they hold their own fairly well except in the 2010 and 2009 age groups. I think some of that might be attributed to a young coach working to find his footing. Some of it is talent. And some of it is organizational philosophy. Alexandria's train by playing approach might not be the best fit for a 4-day a week practice schedule. I think they'd do well to incorporate more individual skill work and team conditioning/speed training.

Can you elaborate on this? And any particular years that you know of specifically? Ds is considering trying out there for next year.

Ex-ASA parent here. The traditional Alexandria philosophy was that individual/technical work and fitness were activities that can and should be done outside of practice. I happen to agree with this, strongly. And ASA top players tend to play futsal as well, which enhances technical/individual skill development, at least in the off season. But it is also noticeable that ASA players may be a little less fit or 1 v 1 oriented than players developed at other clubs, with some very notable exceptions among ASA players who have gone to DCU.

Practices are heavy on buildup, shape and positional play. My son learned more at early ages there than the rest of his years in soccer combined. He took care of skills at HP.

The club has a philosophy that goes against 1v1's and focuses primarily on team tactics?

What about dribbling and creativity?

How do you coach creativity?

Can't coach it, you can only coach it out of the players. Once you have taught the fundamentals just SHTFU and let the kids play its no secret. Creative players just play that way typically from playing pick-up and just fun juggling games, no coach is going to make a player creative, maybe they can cultivate one by staying out of the way. You want to create creative players, leave the coaches out of the actual playing (no Joysticking) of soccer and go play pick-up like they do everywhere else there is a soccer culture. Don't tell me pick-up doesn't exsist either, its out there its just not being posted on DCUM for you to show up in your gas guzzling monster SUVs in neighborhoods you would politely call "rough"

Hey, I think I know you from another forum. re: City Sporting Club you said this: "In my opinion, this is for DC kids who don't want to drive around the surrounding counties for high level soccer training, so you wealthy, sheltered suburbanites need not apply. You'd probably be scared off by the surrounding neighborhood they train at in DC either way to notice what they are building so stick to Bethesda and McLean and leave City to the ballers and development process that happens in soccer "culture" playing countries (i.e. not the U.S.) were the best talent is developed not the kids with biggest trust funds." yeah? is that right? If so, I'm really proud of my recollection and the ability of my old brain to make connections.

We all drive Teslas now, TYVM

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Anonymous wrote:This is news to us! My DS currently plays at NVA and we had no idea this is potentially happening. My DS would rather play MLS Next, let’s hope this rumor is true!

Yes they are going to MLS next and the girls are going to GA. ECNL won't allow 2nd teams.

Not true. ECNL does allow its boys teams to be second teams. You just have to get their ok.

No they don't. Ask PDA and FC Delco.

I don't know where people are seeing that PDA and FC Delco have been kicked out of ECNL but that seems to be pure rumor.

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I guess the CEO lost his first big battle!

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the CEO lost his first big battle!

Did anyone hear further on this ?

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All I heard is that Loudoun chose not to leave ECNL on the boys side as that would have resulted in the girls side being removed from ECNL. Apparently to be in ECNL you have to put both your boys and girls programs into ECNL. I don’t know enough to validate but that was floating around.
That being said, it wouldn’t surprise me as some would argue that the Loudoun girls programs are stronger than boys; which is why the boys have changed their coaching structure to elevate DP to a Pre-ECNL slot in order to better prep the top teams coming up through the age ranks.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the CEO lost his first big battle!

Did anyone hear further on this ?

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why not just add mls next to pyramid tiers for boys side?

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I think ECNL won’t allow this - in the end it’s a business, unfortunately. Ever see Coke and Pepsi side by side? Rare.

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Anonymous wrote:This is news to us! My DS currently plays at NVA and we had no idea this is potentially happening. My DS would rather play MLS Next, let’s hope this rumor is true!

Yes they are going to MLS next and the girls are going to GA. ECNL won't allow 2nd teams.

Not true. ECNL does allow its boys teams to be second teams. You just have to get their ok.

yes they do.. many teams in midwest that have both

No they don't. Ask PDA and FC Delco.

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The issue is ECNL will insist on both the girls and boys teams to be the top teams. MLS Next will insist that their team is the top team. There are some clubs that have both but those are not new. I do not think either would allow this going forward. They both probably will be squeezing the clubs that have both to make a move.

The equation changes all the time. If GA was closer to ECNL then I think you would see switches but right now (today) GA is not close to ECNL so you have to pick -- which side do you favor -- girls or boys. Maybe someday it is closer.

There has to be a way to pull it off. I think if an ECNL club merged with a non ecnl clud that had mls next it is possible to keep it if the club did not list either team as the top boys team. But who knows.

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Anonymous wrote:I think ECNL won’t allow this - in the end it’s a business, unfortunately. Ever see Coke and Pepsi side by side? Rare.

Yeah they used to but it would have to be an extenuating circumstance (eg FC Dallas) or the club was already grandfathered in (Solar, Bethesda, etc.)

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Anonymous wrote:I think ECNL won’t allow this - in the end it’s a business, unfortunately. Ever see Coke and Pepsi side by side? Rare.

Yeah they used to but it would have to be an extenuating circumstance (eg FC Dallas) or the club was already grandfathered in (Solar, Bethesda, etc.)

is steak back on the menu now that birth year changes incoming

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Anonymous wrote:Any more news on this?

I can’t speak to the girls side, but it is astonishing to me how an area the size of Loudoun, with all the kids and good facilities, spits out mediocre teams. They are exactly like McLean now. Well, not that bad, but close.