If you don’t want this to be another generational warfare episode then why are you insulting people and using tired tropes about the linguistic preferences of older generations? If you’d like a thoughtful civil discourse you can start by behaving that way yourself. |
I wasn't insulting anyone based on their generation, I was insulting people based on their stupidity which is found in any generation. |
Yes of course you save the metrics and documentation to CYA. You don't mention it on an at-will separation call. |
eh, she didn't display their names or faces. No one has any idea who they are except as representatives of Cloud Flare so I don't see the problem |
Honestly, I'm convinced the people saying "@MerrickGarland, @FBI please indict this woman for federal wire tapping!!!!" are HR people embarrassed by how dumb these two appeared on the call. Like, we literally only know their first names and that they work for Cloud Flare, this is so not a big deal other than the fact that people think they are dumb. Which they are. I got let go once for similar reasons to Brittany here and while the company was an effing mess, even they did a better job letting me go. My manager was there and the HR rep, who I knew to be an idiot in other instances, was professional. I will say I was already looking for an out so I didn't care enough to push back like Brittany did. Who knows, maybe if I had pushed back the HR rep would've been incompetent. I think there are three sides to every story - Side 1, Side 2, and the truth. We will likely never know who was closer to the truth, but we can have opinions about both sides. I think Brittany was dumb to think she would be spared by pushing back aggressively and I also think Cloud Flare effed up by not having her manager there AND sending apparently their two dumbest HR reps to do the dirty work. |
You do when you want to make clear you have a reason. It prevents many people from bringing a lawsuit. |
If she's an at will employee, as it appears she is, they can just say that they no longer need her services and they don't need to give a reason. It's better to not give someone something to argue about, just make a clean break. What exactly does she sue over? |
Why? For what? I mean I get that cloudfare doesn’t have to give them a reason (haha! The irony!)—but I don’t get why you would assume they would be fired. Unlike Brittany, they actually succeeded in executing the task for which they were hired. |
I am still curious why two HR people did the firing. Mine was one HR person and my manager. Why two HR people? |
A pretty clear indication this was a RIF, not a performance-based termination. |
So Cloudflare can throw someone under the bus |
| I wonder how long her severance is going to last her. |
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If Brittany had any self confidence in her so-called Sales skills and abilities and network, she would not be this unraveled about her firing.
If her skills were that good, or even half as good, then she’d already have something else lined up or at least not panic, and simply put the word out to her network that she’s available. The last thing she’d do is put herself on blast on public media. Instead this comes across as a Hail Mary move from a low performer with no better options. She needs to re-skill herself into a career that’s a better fit and that her thin-skinned personality is better able to handle. |
That is what I think. People here are so sure it's performance based without ever having worked in sales. |
Not really? It comes across as someone who is pissed off and fed up with the workforce taking advantage of people. They effed up. They hired too many people in Q3. Would I have fought back? Nah. Not my style. But I understand the urge to tell people that they messed up and it's shitty to try and pass the buck onto other people. |