Do great students sometimes get shut out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“But I do think there are some very strong applicants who applied to an appropriate range of reach/target/likely schools who never dreamed they would only get into likelies and are (understandably, in my opionion) so disappointed in their choices that it feels like a shutout.”

This may be my senior this year. In at several safeties but not excited about them. Worried that the targets will yield protect. And of course the reaches are a 5% possibility, 95% chance of rejection. We feel like we should come up with more targets but it’s hard to find ones that check all the boxes in terms of size, location, offerings, etc.

This is the biggest problem. You need to spend just as much time finding safeties you are reasonably excited about, as your targets and reaches.

Feels like people just pick random, high acceptance in-state schools for their safeties, even though there is no real interest in attending.

This 1000%! It is not a "safety" if your kid is not excited about attending. The entire purpose of picking good safeties is so you can actually pick places that are good fits for your kid and a place they want to be.

And stop with the "but there are no safeties for my high stats kid". There are....plenty of them. Your high stats kid can find plenty of like minded students at many schools. Sure one ranked 50-75 might not be 99% filled with kids with 1550+/3.99UW/15APs/etc, but there will be a large group of extremely smart, highly motivated, like minded students.
Now is the time to select your safeties, otherwise you may not like what is remaining come may of senior year.

OP again. Again, my medium-high stats kid was deferred from his top choice safety and accepted to a school with a historical 15% acceptance rate. He does need to find a few more safeties in case his acceptance falls through, and this has made it that much more difficult. We don't even know where to start looking anymore.

What's the intended major?

And what's the state?

There are roughly 4000 colleges out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:two white boys get in? The fact that pp feels comfortable saying this is a symptom of what is wrong with the world.

Yep. My white boy got shut out by two legacies with much, much lower stats. Really didn’t matter their race or gender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:two white boys get in? The fact that pp feels comfortable saying this is a symptom of what is wrong with the world.

Do many pps feel free to attack male Caucasians, also Asians. If any were to do the same to females or URMs—they’d go crying and pressing their panic buttons.

Very easy to answer: how do people prejudge you based on your identity in this crowd….

White male=the devil

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two white boys get in? The fact that pp feels comfortable saying this is a symptom of what is wrong with the world.

Yep. My white boy got shut out by two legacies with much, much lower stats. Really didn’t matter their race or gender.

They did not get shut out. They got rejected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It can happen. But unlikely if they choose carefully.

With Naviance, there’s little excuse for choosing poorly.

[Anonymous]

nah, can’t tell who’s who or which year
useless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“But I do think there are some very strong applicants who applied to an appropriate range of reach/target/likely schools who never dreamed they would only get into likelies and are (understandably, in my opionion) so disappointed in their choices that it feels like a shutout.”

This may be my senior this year. In at several safeties but not excited about them. Worried that the targets will yield protect. And of course the reaches are a 5% possibility, 95% chance of rejection. We feel like we should come up with more targets but it’s hard to find ones that check all the boxes in terms of size, location, offerings, etc.

This is the biggest problem. You need to spend just as much time finding safeties you are reasonably excited about, as your targets and reaches.

Feels like people just pick random, high acceptance in-state schools for their safeties, even though there is no real interest in attending.

This 1000%! It is not a "safety" if your kid is not excited about attending. The entire purpose of picking good safeties is so you can actually pick places that are good fits for your kid and a place they want to be.

And stop with the "but there are no safeties for my high stats kid". There are....plenty of them. Your high stats kid can find plenty of like minded students at many schools. Sure one ranked 50-75 might not be 99% filled with kids with 1550+/3.99UW/15APs/etc, but there will be a large group of extremely smart, highly motivated, like minded students.
Now is the time to select your safeties, otherwise you may not like what is remaining come may of senior year.

OP again. Again, my medium-high stats kid was deferred from his top choice safety and accepted to a school with a historical 15% acceptance rate. He does need to find a few more safeties in case his acceptance falls through, and this has made it that much more difficult. We don't even know where to start looking anymore.

What safety was he deffered from? I missed that! Did it come after you wrote the OP?

It might be helpful if you list all the schools he's applied to and the status, because this is really confusing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two white boys get in? The fact that pp feels comfortable saying this is a symptom of what is wrong with the world.

Yep. My white boy got shut out by two legacies with much, much lower stats. Really didn’t matter their race or gender.

They did not get shut out. They got rejected.

Deferred.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It can happen. But unlikely if they choose carefully.

With Naviance, there’s little excuse for choosing poorly.

Wrong. We are seeing rejections at our school that are way above (scores, goa) students from just last year and back to 2019.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It can happen. But unlikely if they choose carefully.

With Naviance, there’s little excuse for choosing poorly.

Wrong. We are seeing rejections at our school that are way above (scores, goa) students from just last year and back to 2019.

+100

Our school CC was floored early round- given so far up high in scattergram vs previous year admits. They basically said when selecting to ED it was a sure thing.

Lots of crazy stuff going on out there 2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two white boys get in? The fact that pp feels comfortable saying this is a symptom of what is wrong with the world.

Yep. My white boy got shut out by two legacies with much, much lower stats. Really didn’t matter their race or gender.

They did not get shut out. They got rejected.

Bingo.

The sense of (white make) entitlement is astonishing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two white boys get in? The fact that pp feels comfortable saying this is a symptom of what is wrong with the world.

Yep. My white boy got shut out by two legacies with much, much lower stats. Really didn’t matter their race or gender.

They did not get shut out. They got rejected.

Bingo.

The sense of (white make) entitlement is astonishing.

* white male

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two white boys get in? The fact that pp feels comfortable saying this is a symptom of what is wrong with the world.

Yep. My white boy got shut out by two legacies with much, much lower stats. Really didn’t matter their race or gender.

They did not get shut out. They got rejected.

Bingo.

The sense of (white make) entitlement is astonishing.

* white male

Why don’t you two start a white make hate group? Your incessant posting about then and derogatory remarks and their perceived advantages —(and are you friggin’ kidding me in college admissions, btw). They should all apologize for their race and gender since it offends you so much, right?

Good lord. Now we will sh@t on them for years of ignoring boys in favor of countless “all girl” initiatives since the early 90s there are so far fewer of them at 4 year college we now will get down on them for that and the gender balancing some colleges now do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:two white boys get in? The fact that pp feels comfortable saying this is a symptom of what is wrong with the world.

no, it's not. the school should've simply admitted all three. the girl was a double legacy, the boys were single. she was probably higher ranked than the one kid who was in less rigorous classes.

[Anonymous]

I swear 75% of the better summer programs are now for "girls in stem".