Do great students sometimes get shut out?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, but students do get rejected from safeties who rejected 90%+.

I see this happening to my niece. Rejected at some true safety schools as part of yield protection. And she didn't show enough interest. So you need to be careful. My take is make sure some of your safeties are the big schools who care less about this.

Get over the yield protection thing. How many times do have to tell you that public schools (which generally includes high admission rate schools) DO NOT yield protect?

You are wrong, esp. in regards to OOS students. Michigan and Georgia Tech are two prime examples.

Your argument doesn't make sense. Why would either yield protect? Kids aren't exactly overqualified for either. This is nothing more than trying to justify a rejection.

How else do you explain how a lot of applicants from my kids' top tier private with SCEA admits to HYMPS are deferred, while their slightly-less qualified classmates are accepted EA to Michigan? The data on GT, I'll admit, are thin. The pattern at Michigan is clear though.

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Michigan 100% yield protects. They certify that they do! In CDS demonstrated interest field.

6 students with HYPSM admits were deferred at Michigan, including my child. We did not bother submitting LOCI and I dont think any of the others did as well, since Michigan is like 4th or 5th choice at this point.

Of course we did not know child would be lucky and the essays were of same quality as for T15 privates.

Then how on earth is anyone supposed to get into....well, let's not call it a safety, since Michigan is not, but how is anyone supposed to play it safe by applying to schools they're overqualified for?

That's the reason that students end up applying to 20+ schools -- because they are shooting for T20, but cannot be confident in acceptance to T25 bc second tier of schools rejects top applicants preemptively.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, but students do get rejected from safeties who rejected 90%+.

I see this happening to my niece. Rejected at some true safety schools as part of yield protection. And she didn't show enough interest. So you need to be careful. My take is make sure some of your safeties are the big schools who care less about this.

Get over the yield protection thing. How many times do have to tell you that public schools (which generally includes high admission rate schools) DO NOT yield protect?

You are wrong, esp. in regards to OOS students. Michigan and Georgia Tech are two prime examples.

Your argument doesn't make sense. Why would either yield protect? Kids aren't exactly overqualified for either. This is nothing more than trying to justify a rejection.

How else do you explain how a lot of applicants from my kids' top tier private with SCEA admits to HYMPS are deferred, while their slightly-less qualified classmates are accepted EA to Michigan? The data on GT, I'll admit, are thin. The pattern at Michigan is clear though.

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Michigan 100% yield protects. They certify that they do! In CDS demonstrated interest field.

6 students with HYPSM admits were deferred at Michigan, including my child. We did not bother submitting LOCI and I dont think any of the others did as well, since Michigan is like 4th or 5th choice at this point.

Of course we did not know child would be lucky and the essays were of same quality as for T15 privates.

Then how on earth is anyone supposed to get into....well, let's not call it a safety, since Michigan is not, but how is anyone supposed to play it safe by applying to schools they're overqualified for?

That's the reason that students end up applying to 20+ schools -- because they are shooting for T20, but cannot be confident in acceptance to T25 bc second tier of schools rejects top applicants preemptively.

Michigan isn't a "second tier of schools"

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, but students do get rejected from safeties who rejected 90%+.

I see this happening to my niece. Rejected at some true safety schools as part of yield protection. And she didn't show enough interest. So you need to be careful. My take is make sure some of your safeties are the big schools who care less about this.

Get over the yield protection thing. How many times do have to tell you that public schools (which generally includes high admission rate schools) DO NOT yield protect?

You are wrong, esp. in regards to OOS students. Michigan and Georgia Tech are two prime examples.

Your argument doesn't make sense. Why would either yield protect? Kids aren't exactly overqualified for either. This is nothing more than trying to justify a rejection.

How else do you explain how a lot of applicants from my kids' top tier private with SCEA admits to HYMPS are deferred, while their slightly-less qualified classmates are accepted EA to Michigan? The data on GT, I'll admit, are thin. The pattern at Michigan is clear though.

+1

Michigan 100% yield protects. They certify that they do! In CDS demonstrated interest field.

6 students with HYPSM admits were deferred at Michigan, including my child. We did not bother submitting LOCI and I dont think any of the others did as well, since Michigan is like 4th or 5th choice at this point.

Of course we did not know child would be lucky and the essays were of same quality as for T15 privates.

Then how on earth is anyone supposed to get into....well, let's not call it a safety, since Michigan is not, but how is anyone supposed to play it safe by applying to schools they're overqualified for?

That's the reason that students end up applying to 20+ schools -- because they are shooting for T20, but cannot be confident in acceptance to T25 bc second tier of schools rejects top applicants preemptively.

Michigan isn't a "second tier of schools"

Compared to HYPMS, yes, Michigan -- a state school -- is a second tier.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, but students do get rejected from safeties who rejected 90%+.

I see this happening to my niece. Rejected at some true safety schools as part of yield protection. And she didn't show enough interest. So you need to be careful. My take is make sure some of your safeties are the big schools who care less about this.

Get over the yield protection thing. How many times do have to tell you that public schools (which generally includes high admission rate schools) DO NOT yield protect?

You are wrong, esp. in regards to OOS students. Michigan and Georgia Tech are two prime examples.

Your argument doesn't make sense. Why would either yield protect? Kids aren't exactly overqualified for either. This is nothing more than trying to justify a rejection.

How else do you explain how a lot of applicants from my kids' top tier private with SCEA admits to HYMPS are deferred, while their slightly-less qualified classmates are accepted EA to Michigan? The data on GT, I'll admit, are thin. The pattern at Michigan is clear though.

+1

Michigan 100% yield protects. They certify that they do! In CDS demonstrated interest field.

6 students with HYPSM admits were deferred at Michigan, including my child. We did not bother submitting LOCI and I dont think any of the others did as well, since Michigan is like 4th or 5th choice at this point.

Of course we did not know child would be lucky and the essays were of same quality as for T15 privates.

Then how on earth is anyone supposed to get into....well, let's not call it a safety, since Michigan is not, but how is anyone supposed to play it safe by applying to schools they're overqualified for?

That's the reason that students end up applying to 20+ schools -- because they are shooting for T20, but cannot be confident in acceptance to T25 bc second tier of schools rejects top applicants preemptively.

Michigan isn't a "second tier of schools"

Compared to HYPMS, yes, Michigan -- a state school -- is a second tier.

I mean most of the T25 is then a second tier if not included in those five?
That's crazy. Who cares this much.