Still another pit bull attack

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Anonymous wrote:I see that someone has already started a thread about the recent pit bull caused fatality, but in the interest of keeping this thread up to date, I’m putting it here.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-mauled-to-death-by-pit-bulls-in-compton/


These dogs don't appear to be raised in a loving home though. He was a backyard breeder keeping his dogs outside. Who knows how he treated them.

Normal, non-pit abused dogs don’t maul.


That’s apparently what this mother thought too. They had these dogs for 8 years

https://kfor.com/news/mother-tried-to-shield-children-killed-in-memphis-pit-bull-attack-family-says/



The parents should be arrested and jailed.


I think they've suffered enough.

Not enough. They’re alive and their kids aren’t.

Death would be a mercy for them at this point.

At least that would prevent them from breeding again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What pisses me off is how our public animal shelters are full of pits! So we are paying for them to be rescued and then placed with families. That last story / the dog had been with them for 8 years when it killed a 6 month old baby and a 2 year old child!



WEll, duh, idiots like those you see posting here who are pro-pitbulls realize their hands are full too soon and dump them at pounds.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see that someone has already started a thread about the recent pit bull caused fatality, but in the interest of keeping this thread up to date, I’m putting it here.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-mauled-to-death-by-pit-bulls-in-compton/


These dogs don't appear to be raised in a loving home though. He was a backyard breeder keeping his dogs outside. Who knows how he treated them.

Normal, non-pit abused dogs don’t maul.


That’s apparently what this mother thought too. They had these dogs for 8 years

https://kfor.com/news/mother-tried-to-shield-children-killed-in-memphis-pit-bull-attack-family-says/



The parents should be arrested and jailed.


I think they've suffered enough.

To play devils advocate here: pit bull people say there are no bad pit bulls, that pit bulls only attack when trained to do so. Therefore it follows that these parents trained their pit bulls to maul.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see that someone has already started a thread about the recent pit bull caused fatality, but in the interest of keeping this thread up to date, I’m putting it here.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-mauled-to-death-by-pit-bulls-in-compton/


These dogs don't appear to be raised in a loving home though. He was a backyard breeder keeping his dogs outside. Who knows how he treated them.

Normal, non-pit abused dogs don’t maul.


Not true. Between the jaw strength and the high prey drive all pit bulls are dangerous in some level.the risk increases exponentially when you have more than one. Remember the family in Tennessee, where they specifically purchases giant pitbulls? These were family pets.https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see that someone has already started a thread about the recent pit bull caused fatality, but in the interest of keeping this thread up to date, I’m putting it here.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-mauled-to-death-by-pit-bulls-in-compton/


These dogs don't appear to be raised in a loving home though. He was a backyard breeder keeping his dogs outside. Who knows how he treated them.

Normal, non-pit abused dogs don’t maul.


Not true. Between the jaw strength and the high prey drive all pit bulls are dangerous in some level.the risk increases exponentially when you have more than one. Remember the family in Tennessee, where they specifically purchases giant pitbulls? These were family pets.https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/


https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see that someone has already started a thread about the recent pit bull caused fatality, but in the interest of keeping this thread up to date, I’m putting it here.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-mauled-to-death-by-pit-bulls-in-compton/


These dogs don't appear to be raised in a loving home though. He was a backyard breeder keeping his dogs outside. Who knows how he treated them.

Normal, non-pit abused dogs don’t maul.


Not true. Between the jaw strength and the high prey drive all pit bulls are dangerous in some level.the risk increases exponentially when you have more than one. Remember the family in Tennessee, where they specifically purchases giant pitbulls? These were family pets.https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/

I said non-pit. Yes, I agree with you that every pit has the potential to maul; it’s in their DNA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see that someone has already started a thread about the recent pit bull caused fatality, but in the interest of keeping this thread up to date, I’m putting it here.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-mauled-to-death-by-pit-bulls-in-compton/


These dogs don't appear to be raised in a loving home though. He was a backyard breeder keeping his dogs outside. Who knows how he treated them.

Normal, non-pit abused dogs don’t maul.


That’s apparently what this mother thought too. They had these dogs for 8 years

https://kfor.com/news/mother-tried-to-shield-children-killed-in-memphis-pit-bull-attack-family-says/



The parents should be arrested and jailed.


I think they've suffered enough.

To play devils advocate here: pit bull people say there are no bad pit bulls, that pit bulls only attack when trained to do so. Therefore it follows that these parents trained their pit bulls to maul.


That is perfectly logical.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see that someone has already started a thread about the recent pit bull caused fatality, but in the interest of keeping this thread up to date, I’m putting it here.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-mauled-to-death-by-pit-bulls-in-compton/


These dogs don't appear to be raised in a loving home though. He was a backyard breeder keeping his dogs outside. Who knows how he treated them.

Normal, non-pit abused dogs don’t maul.


Not true. Between the jaw strength and the high prey drive all pit bulls are dangerous in some level.the risk increases exponentially when you have more than one. Remember the family in Tennessee, where they specifically purchases giant pitbulls? These were family pets.https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/

I said non-pit. Yes, I agree with you that every pit has the potential to maul; it’s in their DNA.


But this isn’t true either, poster.

I’m with you on the front of being very concerned about pit bulls- although my current dog who is the best, sweetest dog I’ve ever had is 30% APBT according to Embark. She’s also 27.5% border collie (which she looks like entirely), and the rest is an about equal mix of GSD, Treeing Walker Coonhound, Rottweiler and Labrador retriever. I have minimal fear of her ever biting me or anyone else, with the caveat that all dogs are capable of biting in the right circumstances - when in pain, when in a dog fight and a person tries to intervene, when running in a pack of dogs.

But as to your claim, there are several breeds that are high frequency biters even if raised well and never abused. GSDs and Rottweilers have mauled people without having been abused.

A few years ago a teenaged boy was mauled to death just down the road from me, feeding dogs at the kennel of a well regarded local dog trainer. He was alone at the time and it’s hard to know what the trigger was - he’d known the dogs a while and been working there part time caring for them for months.

Dog behavior is highly complex, especially when dogs are interacting with other dogs. The family dog in a pack is a different beast than the family dog on the living room rug. When I was a child in the 70s it was common for people’s dogs to roam the neighborhood; my uncle kept sheep on a small hobby farm down the street from our house and he was forced to shoot and kill half a dozen of the neighborhood dogs when they savaged his sheep. It’s unlikely any one of them would have done it on their own, but dogs running together tap into deep seated instincts that get triggered by pack mentality - kind of like how humans can behave like savages when they fall into mob mentality.

The problem with dogs is people, period. The vast majority of people don’t understand dog behavior even a little bit - they anthropomorphize their dogs and expect their dogs to act like Pluto and Scooby Doo and Lassie etc., and don’t bother to learn things like how that whale eye means the dog isn’t enjoying being climbed on by a toddler and is getting ready to be triggered. There are a lot of good materials out there by very good animal behaviorists, but the vast majority of people aren’t interested and consider themselves dog experts with zero basis.

Dogs bite because of people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see that someone has already started a thread about the recent pit bull caused fatality, but in the interest of keeping this thread up to date, I’m putting it here.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-mauled-to-death-by-pit-bulls-in-compton/


These dogs don't appear to be raised in a loving home though. He was a backyard breeder keeping his dogs outside. Who knows how he treated them.

Normal, non-pit abused dogs don’t maul.


Not true. Between the jaw strength and the high prey drive all pit bulls are dangerous in some level.the risk increases exponentially when you have more than one. Remember the family in Tennessee, where they specifically purchases giant pitbulls? These were family pets.https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/

I said non-pit. Yes, I agree with you that every pit has the potential to maul; it’s in their DNA.


But this isn’t true either, poster.

I’m with you on the front of being very concerned about pit bulls- although my current dog who is the best, sweetest dog I’ve ever had is 30% APBT according to Embark. She’s also 27.5% border collie (which she looks like entirely), and the rest is an about equal mix of GSD, Treeing Walker Coonhound, Rottweiler and Labrador retriever. I have minimal fear of her ever biting me or anyone else, with the caveat that all dogs are capable of biting in the right circumstances - when in pain, when in a dog fight and a person tries to intervene, when running in a pack of dogs.

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Dogs bite because of people.

Yet we don’t hear of Muensterlanders mauling people to death because they sneezed. And we don’t hear of Cocker Spaniels mauling someone because they wore long sleeves. Or poodles because someone was a man.

Yes, GSDs and Rottweilers and Cane Corsos and Akitas are serious dogs for experienced owners, but they don’t have the pit bull’s relentless drive to kill.
Anonymous
Saying that dogs bite because of people is victim blaming
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Saying that dogs bite because of people is victim blaming


But it is true. Just like the parents who buy their children guns knowing they have mental illness. If you raise you dog to be mean and tough


If I can find the article that backs the claim that nurture affects nature I will post.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Saying that dogs bite because of people is victim blaming


But it is true. Just like the parents who buy their children guns knowing they have mental illness. If you raise you dog to be mean and tough


If I can find the article that backs the claim that nurture affects nature I will post.

You can’t nurture breeding out of a dog, something that people will acknowledge with every breed but pit bulls. Somehow pit bulls are supposed to be magically magic, despite being bred to fight and kill bears, bulls and then dogs.

So I say it again: you’re effectively advocating that these parents taught their dogs to kill their children. I mean that’s the only logical conclusion. So you must support the death penalty or life in prison for the kind of monsters who would nurture their dog to murder their kids.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saying that dogs bite because of people is victim blaming


But it is true. Just like the parents who buy their children guns knowing they have mental illness. If you raise you dog to be mean and tough


If I can find the article that backs the claim that nurture affects nature I will post.

You can’t nurture breeding out of a dog, something that people will acknowledge with every breed but pit bulls. Somehow pit bulls are supposed to be magically magic, despite being bred to fight and kill bears, bulls and then dogs.

So I say it again: you’re effectively advocating that these parents taught their dogs to kill their children. I mean that’s the only logical conclusion. So you must support the death penalty or life in prison for the kind of monsters who would nurture their dog to murder their kids.


I don't believe in the death penalty. I don't know what these people taught or didn't teach. The majority of dog bites are of children and people are famous for not reading the dog's communication.

It is a tragedy though when children die violently. My argument is the breed gets blamed fir every attack which isn't fair.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saying that dogs bite because of people is victim blaming


But it is true. Just like the parents who buy their children guns knowing they have mental illness. If you raise you dog to be mean and tough


If I can find the article that backs the claim that nurture affects nature I will post.

You can’t nurture breeding out of a dog, something that people will acknowledge with every breed but pit bulls. Somehow pit bulls are supposed to be magically magic, despite being bred to fight and kill bears, bulls and then dogs.

So I say it again: you’re effectively advocating that these parents taught their dogs to kill their children. I mean that’s the only logical conclusion. So you must support the death penalty or life in prison for the kind of monsters who would nurture their dog to murder their kids.


I don't believe in the death penalty. I don't know what these people taught or didn't teach. The majority of dog bites are of children and people are famous for not reading the dog's communication.

It is a tragedy though when children die violently. My argument is the breed gets blamed fir every attack which isn't fair.

Show me where the poodles and the Schnauzers rip off a kid’s scalp. Show me where the Australian Shepherd tears ligaments in a kid’s neck. Show me where the chihuahua bites so much and so close to the brain that the dog has to be put down immediately to test for rabies. I am SICK of you ghouls blaming everyone and everything but the breed when it’s really only this one set of breeds that mauls people like this. You know what normal dogs do? They *sometimes* bite kids who don’t read their signals. Sometimes. Most times they just get up and mosey away.

Four year old girl Lillianna Stratman was mauled by her mother’s boyfriend’s pit bull in Omaha Tuesday, February 20th. She is in intensive care and will have to have multiple surgeries. https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-dog-attack-sends-child-to-hospital-mom-boyfriend-arrested/46891309 https://www.gofundme.com/f/lilliana-stratmans-medical-bills
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saying that dogs bite because of people is victim blaming


But it is true. Just like the parents who buy their children guns knowing they have mental illness. If you raise you dog to be mean and tough


If I can find the article that backs the claim that nurture affects nature I will post.

You can’t nurture breeding out of a dog, something that people will acknowledge with every breed but pit bulls. Somehow pit bulls are supposed to be magically magic, despite being bred to fight and kill bears, bulls and then dogs.

So I say it again: you’re effectively advocating that these parents taught their dogs to kill their children. I mean that’s the only logical conclusion. So you must support the death penalty or life in prison for the kind of monsters who would nurture their dog to murder their kids.


I don't believe in the death penalty. I don't know what these people taught or didn't teach. The majority of dog bites are of children and people are famous for not reading the dog's communication.

It is a tragedy though when children die violently. My argument is the breed gets blamed fir every attack which isn't fair.

Show me where the poodles and the Schnauzers rip off a kid’s scalp. Show me where the Australian Shepherd tears ligaments in a kid’s neck. Show me where the chihuahua bites so much and so close to the brain that the dog has to be put down immediately to test for rabies. I am SICK of you ghouls blaming everyone and everything but the breed when it’s really only this one set of breeds that mauls people like this. You know what normal dogs do? They *sometimes* bite kids who don’t read their signals. Sometimes. Most times they just get up and mosey away.

Four year old girl Lillianna Stratman was mauled by her mother’s boyfriend’s pit bull in Omaha Tuesday, February 20th. She is in intensive care and will have to have multiple surgeries. https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-dog-attack-sends-child-to-hospital-mom-boyfriend-arrested/46891309 https://www.gofundme.com/f/lilliana-stratmans-medical-bills


I find it interesting you are comparing small dogs to bigger dogs. Which I do not consider fair. The dogs you should compare that are same size or bigger German Shepherds, Doberman pinchers, Chows, Cane Corsos, Akita, Dogo Argentinos

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