Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m crazy but maybe the problem is relatively easy access to AR-15…

you are not crazy, this country is bonkers. Watch gun sales go up. Plan to leave if you care for your family/children at all

[Anonymous]

Yes, there are going to be buybacks and other challenges but it’s time to start doing hard things before this country turns into more of a third world nightmare.

sorry, but this country is already a 3rd world nightmare. More guns than people, more assault weapons than the soviet cold war stockpile, the country is awash in guns with the other side constantly buying/hoarding/3d printing even more. There is no solution except to leave this insane asylum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two questions.....
1. Why was he released from the facility? Clearly, he is not well.
2. Given that he had threatened to shoot up the military base, why was he permitted to own a gun - any gun?

The document, circulated to law enforcement officials, said Card had been committed to a mental health facility for two weeks in the summer of 2023. It did not provide details about his treatment or condition but said Card had reported "hearing voices and threats to shoot up" the military base. A telephone number listed for Card in public records was not in service.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maine-lewiston-shooting-survivor-ran-down-bowling-alley-hid-behind-pins/

These are the right questions

No they aren't. We don't lock up people with mental illness indefinitely, nor should we. And the gun was either legally his or illegal. There are so many AR-15s around, they are very common.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two questions.....
1. Why was he released from the facility? Clearly, he is not well.
2. Given that he had threatened to shoot up the military base, why was he permitted to own a gun - any gun?

The document, circulated to law enforcement officials, said Card had been committed to a mental health facility for two weeks in the summer of 2023. It did not provide details about his treatment or condition but said Card had reported "hearing voices and threats to shoot up" the military base. A telephone number listed for Card in public records was not in service.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maine-lewiston-shooting-survivor-ran-down-bowling-alley-hid-behind-pins/

These are the right questions

No they aren't. We don't lock up people with mental illness indefinitely, nor should we. And the gun was either legally his or illegal. There are so many AR-15s around, they are very common.

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The question is.... why did he have it given he was in a mental health facility for 2 weeks and had threatened to shoot up a base? This is the textbook case of where a red flag law is applicable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ID'd as Robert Card. That's the shooter's name.

My joking sympathies to all of the other Robert Cards whose lives are going to be very annoying briefly.

My real sympathies to the families of the deceased and injured. I’m sorry that the GOP loves its gun money more than it appreciates a safe healthy populace.

And more sympathies to thousands of people who are tonight remembering their mass shooting experiences and wondering where their loved ones would be now. May PTSD flares be brief and may good memories comfort them.

Stop it. This is not the time to be talking about gun control, not when people are so emotional.

SCOTUS has clarified that gun ownership is an inalienable right and that using your gun is protected free speech. Democrats always scream for gun control after events like these because they know it’s REPUBLICANS, namely MAGA, who own the vast majority of guns and ammo in America. Asking President Trump and the GOP to support gun control is really asking them to unilaterally disarm. It makes no sense to hand the Democrats such a victory, when gun-aided speech is literally and figuratively MAGA’s Trump card for 2024.

It seems to be never the time to talk about gun control.

Why would gun control ever happen? You can shoot up a classroom full of 8 year olds at Sandy Hook and nothing changes. This is just a regular weekday event here. I'm surprised it is national news at this point. Routine American life.

6 year olds. They would be high school seniors this year.

Yup, a class full of first graders who should be seniors in high school this year. I oddly was just thinking/reflecting on this yesterday morning. My daughter is the same age as the children of Sandy Hook, and she is finishing high school and looking forward to her future. It is so wrong that those children didn’t get to grow up to be whoever they were going to be.

This insanity has to end. It just has to. The answers seem so obvious yet we are told we can’t do what it will take to make this stop.

AR-15s need to be banned and bought back. This has to be mandatory. Nobody should be allowed to own these weapons. Full stop.

And can we PLEASE take mental health seriously? Please. This dude should have had all his access to firearms revoked and should have been kept in the facility. We need more infrastructure. We need more mental health professionals.

We have to do hard things to stop the carnage.

Also, stop voting for the GOP. Shut down the NRA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two questions.....
1. Why was he released from the facility? Clearly, he is not well.
2. Given that he had threatened to shoot up the military base, why was he permitted to own a gun - any gun?

The document, circulated to law enforcement officials, said Card had been committed to a mental health facility for two weeks in the summer of 2023. It did not provide details about his treatment or condition but said Card had reported "hearing voices and threats to shoot up" the military base. A telephone number listed for Card in public records was not in service.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maine-lewiston-shooting-survivor-ran-down-bowling-alley-hid-behind-pins/

These are the right questions

No they aren't. We don't lock up people with mental illness indefinitely, nor should we. And the gun was either legally his or illegal. There are so many AR-15s around, they are very common.

is
The question is.... why did he have it given he was in a mental health facility for 2 weeks and had threatened to shoot up a base? This is the textbook case of where a red flag law is applicable.

Maine does not have red flag laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, there are going to be buybacks and other challenges but it’s time to start doing hard things before this country turns into more of a third world nightmare.

sorry, but this country is already a 3rd world nightmare. More guns than people, more assault weapons than the soviet cold war stockpile, the country is awash in guns with the other side constantly buying/hoarding/3d printing even more. There is no solution except to leave this insane asylum.

I really hate that I even have to consider leaving this country to keep my children safe, but between mass shootings, the slide towards becoming Gilead and that whole crazy cult with authoritarian tendencies attempting to dismantle democracy, I am really seeing very little hope for the future here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maine has one of the laxest gun laws in the country. Amazing this guy could go to mutiiple locations, open fire, and not one "good guy with a gun" could take him out.

Actually seeing as how Maine has a strong gun culture, I am very surprised none of his targets had a gun and shot back.

If you can't beat them, you have to join them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maine has one of the laxest gun laws in the country. Amazing this guy could go to mutiiple locations, open fire, and not one "good guy with a gun" could take him out.

Actually seeing as how Maine has a strong gun culture, I am very surprised none of his targets had a gun and shot back.

If you can't beat them, you have to join them.

You can beat them. Ignore the incessant BS NRA talking points and vote to get rid of this insane number of guns polluting our lives

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maine has one of the laxest gun laws in the country. Amazing this guy could go to mutiiple locations, open fire, and not one "good guy with a gun" could take him out.

Actually seeing as how Maine has a strong gun culture, I am very surprised none of his targets had a gun and shot back.

If you can't beat them, you have to join them.

You can beat them. Ignore the incessant BS NRA talking points and vote to get rid of this insane number of guns polluting our lives

If Sandy Hook didn't change this country, nothing will.

What this country needs is a divorce.

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of comments here and elsewhere about mental health. Well before the point of needing/hoping a mental health professional can derail this type of situation, something within our society is causing unbelievable levels of mental instability in a sizable number of individuals. Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of comments here and elsewhere about mental health. Well before the point of needing/hoping a mental health professional can derail this type of situation, something within our society is causing unbelievable levels of mental instability in a sizable number of individuals. Why?

There have always been crazy people. They didn't have AR 15s and we didn't have instant mass media.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maine has one of the laxest gun laws in the country. Amazing this guy could go to mutiiple locations, open fire, and not one "good guy with a gun" could take him out.

Actually seeing as how Maine has a strong gun culture, I am very surprised none of his targets had a gun and shot back.

If you can't beat them, you have to join them.

You can beat them. Ignore the incessant BS NRA talking points and vote to get rid of this insane number of guns polluting our lives

If Sandy Hook didn't change this country, nothing will.

What this country needs is a divorce.

Sandy Hook did change the country. The next generation of voters had to grow up doing "active shooter drills" as part of their schooling. They don't intend for their children to have to do the same.

[Anonymous]

There is mental illness in every country.

Other countries don’t hand those folks high powered guns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Yes, there are going to be buybacks and other challenges but it’s time to start doing hard things before this country turns into more of a third world nightmare.

sorry, but this country is already a 3rd world nightmare. More guns than people, more assault weapons than the soviet cold war stockpile, the country is awash in guns with the other side constantly buying/hoarding/3d printing even more. There is no solution except to leave this insane asylum.

I really hate that I even have to consider leaving this country to keep my children safe, but between mass shootings, the slide towards becoming Gilead and that whole crazy cult with authoritarian tendencies attempting to dismantle democracy, I am really seeing very little hope for the future here

Maine is one of the safest places in the world to live. After they catch this guy you should consider moving there.