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Anonymous wrote:I read about this and was disgusted by it. His sentence was ridiculously light.

He should have been tried as an adult. He did some pretty heinous crimes.

I hope this guy gets expelled if he is in school. No one should have to go to school with someone like that.

I hope Arlington, VA gets blasted in the national news for this too.



Groping = “heinous”?



wow thanks for revealing yourself. yes, hiding in the bushes to jump out and grope FIVE women (while filming it!) is heinous and pretty much proof of a very disturbed mind. I don’t think he should be in jail but probably some kind of residential treatment facility for at least a year. something is seriously wrong with him.


Please. These sexual assaults are closer to pranks than a heinous crime.


wtf is wrong with you? it is not a “prank” to stalk and jump women at night to grab their genitals and film it.


He grabbed the crotch of her pants. No genitals were touched.


Right, and if I punch you in your face while I have work gloves on no assult occurred.


1. more minimizing here - "it's not assault, she had pants on!"

and 2. bravo person replying - literal spit take, there is tea on my screen now.


Stop lying. No one said “it wasn’t assault”. Just that he didn’t actually touch her “genitals”.


Wait so like...if you grab someones boobs above the shirt you didn't touch their boobs, you touched their shirt?
This position is deeply not defensible friend.


"Genitals" means vulva/vagina and is misrepresentative of what happened. He grabbed her "crotch" from behind which was reported as "buttocks".
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/arlington/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-assault-in-arlington/65-b53ab683-80b9-481c-bc25-91210c716b92

There is some threshold for it to be considered sexual assault/battery and his actions did NOT meet that threshold.

What he did was wrong - 100%. I'm sure the victims feel violated. He should be punished and receive treatment. But don't pretend like it was something much more serious just to push some political narrative.


you are disgusting. he grabbed her crotch and was trying to pull her pants down. of ALL the crimes for you to be trying to minimize …

I am not sure what he was charged with or convicted of, but this is *absolutely* a form of sexual assault.

Definition of sexual abuse in Virginia:

“ 6. "Sexual abuse" means an act committed with the intent to sexually molest, arouse, or gratify any person, where:

a. The accused intentionally touches the complaining witness's intimate parts or material directly covering such intimate parts”


(and btw “intimate parts” includes buttocks in the statute.)
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Josh Duggar touched his sisters and their babysitter over their clothes and then graduated to soliciting prostitution and downloading graphic child sexual abuse videos. We all better hope and pray that the diversion program they sent this guy to actually works.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s say this kid jumped out of the bushes with the intention of groping a woman. The woman doesn’t know his intention. He immediately grabs her crotch. She assumes she’ll be raped and chooses fight mode. She pulls out her legally registered concealed gun and shoots the perp with the intention of preventing rape. She’s a sharp shooter and he dies. She’s charged with manslaughter at best or murder. Is this justice? These degenerates need to be rehabilitated in prison for the duration of extent of the crime. I’m not a Republican.


So 5 minutes for each assault? Guess he's being treated disproportionately roughly. How unfair.

Would a woman be justified in shooting him? Probably. That doesn't make his assault heinous though.


Who are you to deem it not heinous? And the truly heinous part is that he filmed it and did it FIVE times. Where do you think a kid like this is heading?


Calling groping “heinous” minimizing the crimes that actually are “heinous”.

His future isn’t written in stone. He is a minor and should be guided towards doing the right thing, not thrown away in jail for a long time.


Let me guess, you also thought Brett Kavanaugh's career should be ended over some supposed "groping" when he was a minor?
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s say this kid jumped out of the bushes with the intention of groping a woman. The woman doesn’t know his intention. He immediately grabs her crotch. She assumes she’ll be raped and chooses fight mode. She pulls out her legally registered concealed gun and shoots the perp with the intention of preventing rape. She’s a sharp shooter and he dies. She’s charged with manslaughter at best or murder. Is this justice? These degenerates need to be rehabilitated in prison for the duration of extent of the crime. I’m not a Republican.


So 5 minutes for each assault? Guess he's being treated disproportionately roughly. How unfair.

Would a woman be justified in shooting him? Probably. That doesn't make his assault heinous though.


Who are you to deem it not heinous? And the truly heinous part is that he filmed it and did it FIVE times. Where do you think a kid like this is heading?


Calling groping “heinous” minimizing the crimes that actually are “heinous”.

His future isn’t written in stone. He is a minor and should be guided towards doing the right thing, not thrown away in jail for a long time.


Let me guess, you also thought Brett Kavanaugh's career should be ended over some supposed "groping" when he was a minor?


I don't think his "career should have ended", but I do have reservations about installing him for an incredibly powerful, lifetime position. And at least one of accusations was from his time as an adult, in college.

Mostly, I thought it should have been independently and transparently investigated. Funny how the same thing happened with Thomas. More examples of Republicans putting party over country.
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Anonymous wrote:I read about this and was disgusted by it. His sentence was ridiculously light.

He should have been tried as an adult. He did some pretty heinous crimes.

I hope this guy gets expelled if he is in school. No one should have to go to school with someone like that.

I hope Arlington, VA gets blasted in the national news for this too.



Groping = “heinous”?



wow thanks for revealing yourself. yes, hiding in the bushes to jump out and grope FIVE women (while filming it!) is heinous and pretty much proof of a very disturbed mind. I don’t think he should be in jail but probably some kind of residential treatment facility for at least a year. something is seriously wrong with him.


Please. These sexual assaults are closer to pranks than a heinous crime.


wtf is wrong with you? it is not a “prank” to stalk and jump women at night to grab their genitals and film it.


He grabbed the crotch of her pants. No genitals were touched.


Right, and if I punch you in your face while I have work gloves on no assult occurred.


1. more minimizing here - "it's not assault, she had pants on!"

and 2. bravo person replying - literal spit take, there is tea on my screen now.


Stop lying. No one said “it wasn’t assault”. Just that he didn’t actually touch her “genitals”.


Wait so like...if you grab someones boobs above the shirt you didn't touch their boobs, you touched their shirt?
This position is deeply not defensible friend.


"Genitals" means vulva/vagina and is misrepresentative of what happened. He grabbed her "crotch" from behind which was reported as "buttocks".
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/arlington/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-assault-in-arlington/65-b53ab683-80b9-481c-bc25-91210c716b92

There is some threshold for it to be considered sexual assault/battery and his actions did NOT meet that threshold.

What he did was wrong - 100%. I'm sure the victims feel violated. He should be punished and receive treatment. But don't pretend like it was something much more serious just to push some political narrative.


you are disgusting. he grabbed her crotch and was trying to pull her pants down. of ALL the crimes for you to be trying to minimize …

I am not sure what he was charged with or convicted of, but this is *absolutely* a form of sexual assault.

Definition of sexual abuse in Virginia:

“ 6. "Sexual abuse" means an act committed with the intent to sexually molest, arouse, or gratify any person, where:

a. The accused intentionally touches the complaining witness's intimate parts or material directly covering such intimate parts”


He didn't try to pull her pants down. Embellish much?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/arlington/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-assault-in-arlington/65-b53ab683-80b9-481c-bc25-91210c716b92
In January, police said detectives identified a 17-year-old male suspect and obtained a petition for Assault and Battery charges.

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Anonymous wrote:I read about this and was disgusted by it. His sentence was ridiculously light.

He should have been tried as an adult. He did some pretty heinous crimes.

I hope this guy gets expelled if he is in school. No one should have to go to school with someone like that.

I hope Arlington, VA gets blasted in the national news for this too.



Groping = “heinous”?



wow thanks for revealing yourself. yes, hiding in the bushes to jump out and grope FIVE women (while filming it!) is heinous and pretty much proof of a very disturbed mind. I don’t think he should be in jail but probably some kind of residential treatment facility for at least a year. something is seriously wrong with him.


Please. These sexual assaults are closer to pranks than a heinous crime.


wtf is wrong with you? it is not a “prank” to stalk and jump women at night to grab their genitals and film it.


He grabbed the crotch of her pants. No genitals were touched.


Right, and if I punch you in your face while I have work gloves on no assult occurred.


1. more minimizing here - "it's not assault, she had pants on!"

and 2. bravo person replying - literal spit take, there is tea on my screen now.


Stop lying. No one said “it wasn’t assault”. Just that he didn’t actually touch her “genitals”.


Wait so like...if you grab someones boobs above the shirt you didn't touch their boobs, you touched their shirt?
This position is deeply not defensible friend.


"Genitals" means vulva/vagina and is misrepresentative of what happened. He grabbed her "crotch" from behind which was reported as "buttocks".
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/arlington/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-assault-in-arlington/65-b53ab683-80b9-481c-bc25-91210c716b92

There is some threshold for it to be considered sexual assault/battery and his actions did NOT meet that threshold.

What he did was wrong - 100%. I'm sure the victims feel violated. He should be punished and receive treatment. But don't pretend like it was something much more serious just to push some political narrative.


The victim is quoted calling it her crotch in the news article you linked. I assure you women do not refer to their buttocks as "crotches" - she means her vulva by that.


If someone approaches you from behind and grabs your "crotch" they are grabbing your butt. All articles/comments refer to it as "buttocks", not "vulva".
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Anonymous wrote:I read about this and was disgusted by it. His sentence was ridiculously light.

He should have been tried as an adult. He did some pretty heinous crimes.

I hope this guy gets expelled if he is in school. No one should have to go to school with someone like that.

I hope Arlington, VA gets blasted in the national news for this too.



Groping = “heinous”?



wow thanks for revealing yourself. yes, hiding in the bushes to jump out and grope FIVE women (while filming it!) is heinous and pretty much proof of a very disturbed mind. I don’t think he should be in jail but probably some kind of residential treatment facility for at least a year. something is seriously wrong with him.


Please. These sexual assaults are closer to pranks than a heinous crime.


wtf is wrong with you? it is not a “prank” to stalk and jump women at night to grab their genitals and film it.


He grabbed the crotch of her pants. No genitals were touched.


Right, and if I punch you in your face while I have work gloves on no assult occurred.


1. more minimizing here - "it's not assault, she had pants on!"

and 2. bravo person replying - literal spit take, there is tea on my screen now.


Stop lying. No one said “it wasn’t assault”. Just that he didn’t actually touch her “genitals”.


Wait so like...if you grab someones boobs above the shirt you didn't touch their boobs, you touched their shirt?
This position is deeply not defensible friend.


"Genitals" means vulva/vagina and is misrepresentative of what happened. He grabbed her "crotch" from behind which was reported as "buttocks".
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/arlington/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-assault-in-arlington/65-b53ab683-80b9-481c-bc25-91210c716b92

There is some threshold for it to be considered sexual assault/battery and his actions did NOT meet that threshold.

What he did was wrong - 100%. I'm sure the victims feel violated. He should be punished and receive treatment. But don't pretend like it was something much more serious just to push some political narrative.


you are disgusting. he grabbed her crotch and was trying to pull her pants down. of ALL the crimes for you to be trying to minimize …

I am not sure what he was charged with or convicted of, but this is *absolutely* a form of sexual assault.

Definition of sexual abuse in Virginia:

“ 6. "Sexual abuse" means an act committed with the intent to sexually molest, arouse, or gratify any person, where:

a. The accused intentionally touches the complaining witness's intimate parts or material directly covering such intimate parts”


He didn't try to pull her pants down. Embellish much?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/arlington/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-assault-in-arlington/65-b53ab683-80b9-481c-bc25-91210c716b92
In January, police said detectives identified a 17-year-old male suspect and obtained a petition for Assault and Battery charges.



the reddit post says he tried to pull her pants down.

what he got charged with and whether this conduct could meet the definition of “sexual abuse” are two different things

your continued defense and minimizing here of the acts of a kid who is, at the very least, extremely disturbed is just gross and weird.
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Anonymous wrote:I read about this and was disgusted by it. His sentence was ridiculously light.

He should have been tried as an adult. He did some pretty heinous crimes.

I hope this guy gets expelled if he is in school. No one should have to go to school with someone like that.

I hope Arlington, VA gets blasted in the national news for this too.



Groping = “heinous”?



wow thanks for revealing yourself. yes, hiding in the bushes to jump out and grope FIVE women (while filming it!) is heinous and pretty much proof of a very disturbed mind. I don’t think he should be in jail but probably some kind of residential treatment facility for at least a year. something is seriously wrong with him.


Please. These sexual assaults are closer to pranks than a heinous crime.


wtf is wrong with you? it is not a “prank” to stalk and jump women at night to grab their genitals and film it.


He grabbed the crotch of her pants. No genitals were touched.


Right, and if I punch you in your face while I have work gloves on no assult occurred.


1. more minimizing here - "it's not assault, she had pants on!"

and 2. bravo person replying - literal spit take, there is tea on my screen now.


Stop lying. No one said “it wasn’t assault”. Just that he didn’t actually touch her “genitals”.


Wait so like...if you grab someones boobs above the shirt you didn't touch their boobs, you touched their shirt?
This position is deeply not defensible friend.


"Genitals" means vulva/vagina and is misrepresentative of what happened. He grabbed her "crotch" from behind which was reported as "buttocks".
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/arlington/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-assault-in-arlington/65-b53ab683-80b9-481c-bc25-91210c716b92

There is some threshold for it to be considered sexual assault/battery and his actions did NOT meet that threshold.

What he did was wrong - 100%. I'm sure the victims feel violated. He should be punished and receive treatment. But don't pretend like it was something much more serious just to push some political narrative.


The victim is quoted calling it her crotch in the news article you linked. I assure you women do not refer to their buttocks as "crotches" - she means her vulva by that.


If someone approaches you from behind and grabs your "crotch" they are grabbing your butt. All articles/comments refer to it as "buttocks", not "vulva".


just give it up dude
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Sounds like he’ll get 80 days in regular, adult jail (he turns 18 soon) if he fails to complete the sex offender therapy and/or has any other run-ins with the law.
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Anonymous wrote:I read about this and was disgusted by it. His sentence was ridiculously light.

He should have been tried as an adult. He did some pretty heinous crimes.

I hope this guy gets expelled if he is in school. No one should have to go to school with someone like that.

I hope Arlington, VA gets blasted in the national news for this too.



Groping = “heinous”?



wow thanks for revealing yourself. yes, hiding in the bushes to jump out and grope FIVE women (while filming it!) is heinous and pretty much proof of a very disturbed mind. I don’t think he should be in jail but probably some kind of residential treatment facility for at least a year. something is seriously wrong with him.


Please. These sexual assaults are closer to pranks than a heinous crime.


wtf is wrong with you? it is not a “prank” to stalk and jump women at night to grab their genitals and film it.


He grabbed the crotch of her pants. No genitals were touched.


Right, and if I punch you in your face while I have work gloves on no assult occurred.


1. more minimizing here - "it's not assault, she had pants on!"

and 2. bravo person replying - literal spit take, there is tea on my screen now.


Stop lying. No one said “it wasn’t assault”. Just that he didn’t actually touch her “genitals”.


Wait so like...if you grab someones boobs above the shirt you didn't touch their boobs, you touched their shirt?
This position is deeply not defensible friend.


"Genitals" means vulva/vagina and is misrepresentative of what happened. He grabbed her "crotch" from behind which was reported as "buttocks".
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/arlington/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-assault-in-arlington/65-b53ab683-80b9-481c-bc25-91210c716b92

There is some threshold for it to be considered sexual assault/battery and his actions did NOT meet that threshold.

What he did was wrong - 100%. I'm sure the victims feel violated. He should be punished and receive treatment. But don't pretend like it was something much more serious just to push some political narrative.


you are disgusting. he grabbed her crotch and was trying to pull her pants down. of ALL the crimes for you to be trying to minimize …

I am not sure what he was charged with or convicted of, but this is *absolutely* a form of sexual assault.

Definition of sexual abuse in Virginia:

“ 6. "Sexual abuse" means an act committed with the intent to sexually molest, arouse, or gratify any person, where:

a. The accused intentionally touches the complaining witness's intimate parts or material directly covering such intimate parts”


He didn't try to pull her pants down. Embellish much?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/arlington/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-assault-in-arlington/65-b53ab683-80b9-481c-bc25-91210c716b92
In January, police said detectives identified a 17-year-old male suspect and obtained a petition for Assault and Battery charges.



the reddit post says he tried to pull her pants down.

what he got charged with and whether this conduct could meet the definition of “sexual abuse” are two different things

your continued defense and minimizing here of the acts of a kid who is, at the very least, extremely disturbed is just gross and weird.


No, it didn't say he tried to pull her pants down. "pulled at my pants" His MO was grabbing butts and running, not pulling down pants.

Anyway, it was terrible behavior and was traumatizing for the victim(s). But don't make it something that it was not.

He was appropriately sentenced as a minor with a first offense. In addition to juvie, he has a full year of monitoring - checking in with a probation officer daily. And if he gets into trouble at all again he gets the remaining 80 days in adult prison (he turns 18 soon).
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He attacked women FIVE TIMES. That is a sexual predator, not a prankster. Jesus. What the hell is wrong with some of you??
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Hit enter too soon.

He attacked women FIVE TIMES. That is a sexual predator, not a prankster. Jesus. What the hell is wrong with some of you??


I don’t think disgusting PP is a “soft on crime” postet. I think he is one of our resident MRAs.
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Anonymous wrote:He attacked women

Hit enter too soon.

He attacked women FIVE TIMES. That is a sexual predator, not a prankster. Jesus. What the hell is wrong with some of you??


I don’t think disgusting PP is a “soft on crime” postet. I think he is one of our resident MRAs.


Yes, the PP who thinks this kid is basically a murderer is disgusting.
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Anonymous wrote:He attacked women

Hit enter too soon.

He attacked women FIVE TIMES. That is a sexual predator, not a prankster. Jesus. What the hell is wrong with some of you??


I don’t think disgusting PP is a “soft on crime” postet. I think he is one of our resident MRAs.


Yes, the PP who thinks this kid is basically a murderer is disgusting.


All PPs except for you correctly think he is an extremely troubled sexual predator. We probably differ in how he should be treated but all think the sentence is not sufficient.
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