UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates

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Anonymous wrote:US News Top Schools 1988:

1. Stanford
2. Harvard
3. Yale
4. Princeton
4. Berkeley
5. Dartmouth
7. Duke
8. Chicago/Michigan (tied)
10. Brown

11. Cornell/MIT (tie)

Duke was still to high!

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just Michigan, publics in many states are increasing enrollment because they can earn more revenue and cover expenses by managing in/out-of-state mix, contributions and state funds. It is a sound strategy backed by math equations - as privates keep enrollment levels flat in most cases and apps increase, it is the publics who are benefiting most. Georgia, Alabama, Michigan, Arizona State - whatever you think of them they are playing a good game.

But those schools don’t have serpentine walls!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US News Top Schools 1988:

1. Stanford
2. Harvard
3. Yale
4. Princeton
4. Berkeley
5. Dartmouth
7. Duke
8. Chicago/Michigan (tied)
10. Brown

11. Cornell/MIT (tie)

Looks much more correct than the recent years.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

There really isn’t. 26K is not a small experience no matter what you think. Enjoy your time at UVA, but you’re not going to convince me that it’s is what you would call a small experience.

It is much smaller than other flagships. I can't think off the top of my head one smaller than UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News Top Schools 1988:

1. Stanford
2. Harvard
3. Yale
4. Princeton
4. Berkeley
5. Dartmouth
7. Duke
8. Chicago/Michigan (tied)
10. Brown

11. Cornell/MIT (tie)

Looks much more correct than the recent years.

Disagree. It's just that our instincts about this were calibrated in a 1988-ish era so we'll always kinda think this way. There's no way I'm believing Northeastern is a top school bcs that's where the potheads went in my day. but I'm more wrong than right on this. we need to stay open to new things

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

There really isn’t. 26K is not a small experience no matter what you think. Enjoy your time at UVA, but you’re not going to convince me that it’s is what you would call a small experience.

It is much smaller than other flagships. I can't think off the top of my head one smaller than UVA.

University of Maine
Vermont
Rhode Island
North Dakota

Shall I go on?

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

There really isn’t. 26K is not a small experience no matter what you think. Enjoy your time at UVA, but you’re not going to convince me that it’s is what you would call a small experience.

It is much smaller than other flagships. I can't think off the top of my head one smaller than UVA.

University of Maine
Vermont
Rhode Island
North Dakota

Shall I go on?

No, because they clearly meant top caliber

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It already seems like UMich alums and current students are everywhere in our orbit. Guess it’s going to get even more saturated. Doesn’t this blunt the cachet when you let in so many students? For comparison, UVA only has half the undergraduate students.

UM's total enrollment for fall this year reached 52,065 students, up 2% from 2022. Furthermore, the school's undergraduate enrollment rose 3% to 33,730 students from 32,695 last year.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/10/02/um-ann-arbor-enrollment-52000-sets-another-record/71029768007/

Have zero interest in applying to this school. Antisemitic pro Palestinians would be something I would not want to be around (no I am not Jewish) but I don't like this atmosphere.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

There really isn’t. 26K is not a small experience no matter what you think. Enjoy your time at UVA, but you’re not going to convince me that it’s is what you would call a small experience.

It is much smaller than other flagships. I can't think off the top of my head one smaller than UVA.

University of Maine
Vermont
Rhode Island
North Dakota

Shall I go on?

No, because they clearly meant top caliber

UVA is not top caliber - shall I go on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News Top Schools 1988:

1. Stanford
2. Harvard
3. Yale
4. Princeton
4. Berkeley
5. Dartmouth
7. Duke
8. Chicago/Michigan (tied)
10. Brown

11. Cornell/MIT (tie)

Looks much more correct than the recent years.

Completely agree. Would move MIT higher, though. And add Columbia and Penn somewhere. That's about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

There really isn’t. 26K is not a small experience no matter what you think. Enjoy your time at UVA, but you’re not going to convince me that it’s is what you would call a small experience.

It is much smaller than other flagships. I can't think off the top of my head one smaller than UVA.

University of Maine
Vermont
Rhode Island
North Dakota

Shall I go on?

Yes please. Try some more of the smallest population states.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It already seems like UMich alums and current students are everywhere in our orbit. Guess it’s going to get even more saturated. Doesn’t this blunt the cachet when you let in so many students? For comparison, UVA only has half the undergraduate students.

UM's total enrollment for fall this year reached 52,065 students, up 2% from 2022. Furthermore, the school's undergraduate enrollment rose 3% to 33,730 students from 32,695 last year.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/10/02/um-ann-arbor-enrollment-52000-sets-another-record/71029768007/

Have zero interest in applying to this school. Antisemitic pro Palestinians would be something I would not want to be around (no I am not Jewish) but I don't like this atmosphere.

There are probably more than a few pro-Hamas types in Ann Arbor, but in general the furor in Dearborn does not spill over to Ann Arbor. The Dearborn folks tend to live with parents while in college. So their main destinations are Wayne State U & U of Mich at Dearborn.

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Anonymous wrote:It already seems like UMich alums and current students are everywhere in our orbit. Guess it’s going to get even more saturated. Doesn’t this blunt the cachet when you let in so many students? For comparison, UVA only has half the undergraduate students.

UM's total enrollment for fall this year reached 52,065 students, up 2% from 2022. Furthermore, the school's undergraduate enrollment rose 3% to 33,730 students from 32,695 last year.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/10/02/um-ann-arbor-enrollment-52000-sets-another-record/71029768007/

Have zero interest in applying to this school. Antisemitic pro Palestinians would be something I would not want to be around (no I am not Jewish) but I don't like this atmosphere.

There are probably more than a few pro-Hamas types in Ann Arbor, but in general the furor in Dearborn does not spill over to Ann Arbor. The Dearborn folks tend to live with parents while in college. So their main destinations are Wayne State U & U of Mich at Dearborn.

Besides that, pro Palestinian groups are represented all over the country at all major universities. It’s hardly a Michigan thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

There really isn’t. 26K is not a small experience no matter what you think. Enjoy your time at UVA, but you’re not going to convince me that it’s is what you would call a small experience.

It is much smaller than other flagships. I can't think off the top of my head one smaller than UVA.

University of Maine
Vermont
Rhode Island
North Dakota

Shall I go on?

No, because they clearly meant top caliber

UVA is not top caliber - shall I go on?

strange point, especially in light of the fact that UVA - notwithstanding its small size - is the no 1 producer of Rhodes Scholars over all other publics insituttions, including Michigan and no 8 over all privates/publics including West Point. Uva sent my Oxbridge kid there now.