UMich hits new enrollment record; opens doors to nearly 34,000 undergraduates

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

Agree plus PP’s stats for U Mich were not correct - far lower for both out of state and in state admissions. Even lower for post grad programs.

However, the main point is that it is excellent in many ways - academics, research and athletics plus a lot of community spirit.

They are an engine for social mobility and agree with PP - UMich please keep on educating as many as possible - it is in the best interests for everyone who wants democracy to work well.

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Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.

Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.

Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.

Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.

I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.

UVa is crawling with California students right now. Perhaps perceptions changed?

According to UVA for fall 2023, there are 276 undergraduates from California.
https://ira.virginia.edu/university-data-home/enrollment

I see 560 coming in from CA for 2023. https://ira.virginia.edu/university-data-home/enrollment

560 includes graduate, med,, law etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this is why it seems like everyone’s kid is getting into Michigan.

Yes the overall acceptance rate last year was 17%, and OOS was lower. So clearly everyone is getting in.

Michigan is way more popular nationally than UVA. It receives double the applications and has a higher yield without using ED to achieve it.

Well, gee, maybe that's because it has over double the students at 52K. UVA is 24K. And Californians and west coaster apply to UVA because it's warmer. Four fifths of the 57,000 applications to UVA last year were OOS.

I highly doubt many Californians would apply to UVA. When my kid was attending UC, his classmates had not heard of UVA.

UVa is crawling with California students right now. Perhaps perceptions changed?

According to UVA for fall 2023, there are 276 undergraduates from California.
https://ira.virginia.edu/university-data-home/enrollment

I see 560 coming in from CA for 2023. https://ira.virginia.edu/university-data-home/enrollment

560 includes graduate, med,, law etc.

Yeah, the PP keeps upping the ante with every post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

The Michigan totals included all students. Not just undergraduates.

[Anonymous]

C'mon - everyone knows that L.A. loves the Wolverines. Was the Big Chill about UVA alumni? Now way.

When I moved to Cali after graduating from U of M, there were Go Blue shirts and license plates all over the place. Can't say the same for UVA. California softies love the midwestern work ethic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

no, that figure also includes grad students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

There really isn’t. 26K is not a small experience no matter what you think. Enjoy your time at UVA, but you’re not going to convince me that it’s is what you would call a small experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

These Michigan boosters talk out of their fannies because they are oblivious to how a smaller or mid-sized college feels. Don't know what they don't know. Pure ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

These Michigan boosters talk out of their fannies because they are oblivious to how a smaller or mid-sized college feels. Don't know what they don't know. Pure ignorance.

Smaller and midsized colleges are LAC and schools with between 2,000 and 10,000 enrolled undergraduate students. There are many of those in this country, UVA is not among them.
It seems you don’t know what a medium sized college/university is. Speaking of talking out of your fanny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan had 2541 undergraduates from California in…..2019. I’m sure it’s even higher now. Almost 10 times as many from CA attend the campus in Ann Arbor as compared to Charlottesville. Not in the same realm of popularity.

https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/01/e8c0385baa984/where-do-university-of-michiga.html#:~:text=Among%20states%2C%20California%20led%20the%20way%2C,sending%202%2C541%20students%20to%20UM%20this%20fall.

False:
1). Michigan takes 50 percent OOS; UVA only 30 percent. Not comparable

2) Michigan is more than twice the size of UVA at 51,000 students (including graduate students)

3) a lot of students like myself don’t want a school as large as Berkeley, UCLA or Michigan. That’s where UVA fits in

once you go from around 200-2500 students to over 8,000, it doesn't really matter how big the schools is. The fact is, when a large university includes agriculture, engineering, nursing, Liberal Arts etc as part of the undergrad count, students tend to interact with their dorm floor and then the students they meet in their classes, and after Freshman year, it narrows to circles of friends from classes. Seldom do you have a host of nursing students hanging out academically or socially with engineering or Ag students and vice versa. So the distinction between 26000 at UVA and 51000 at UM is immaterial.

hahaha. I didn't want a huge experience which is why I didn't apply to UCLA, Berkeley or Michigan. There is an enormous difference between 17,000 (26K with grad students) and a city of 51,000. get real

These Michigan boosters talk out of their fannies because they are oblivious to how a smaller or mid-sized college feels. Don't know what they don't know. Pure ignorance.

A school that doesn’t offer across the board strong academics is mediocre no matter what the size. Of course attending these types of schools, those boosters don’t know what they don’t know. I’m not including UVA here of course, since it’s a large university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:C'mon - everyone knows that L.A. loves the Wolverines. Was the Big Chill about UVA alumni? Now way.

When I moved to Cali after graduating from U of M, there were Go Blue shirts and license plates all over the place. Can't say the same for UVA. California softies love the midwestern work ethic.

That is a 40 year old film.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:C'mon - everyone knows that L.A. loves the Wolverines. Was the Big Chill about UVA alumni? Now way.

When I moved to Cali after graduating from U of M, there were Go Blue shirts and license plates all over the place. Can't say the same for UVA. California softies love the midwestern work ethic.

That is a 40 year old film.

That illustrates that the school's national prominence. It's a special place.

[Anonymous]

US News Top Schools 1988:

1. Stanford
2. Harvard
3. Yale
4. Princeton
4. Berkeley
5. Dartmouth
7. Duke
8. Chicago/Michigan (tied)
10. Brown

11. Cornell/MIT (tie)