FL schools to teach that "Blacks benefited from slavery" and "massacres had reasons"

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't really paying attention to this news story because it appeared to be so obviously BS that it wasn't worth reading. Then I realized that was the wrong way to go, because if we quit paying attention to potential abuses of power, we won't notice them when they happen.

So I looked into this story and, well, it was intentionally misconstrued to smear Florida. I don't know why I bother.

You weren’t really paying attention to this news story because it’s not an issue that directly impacts you. It’s so easy to burble on about “potential abuses of power” while ignoring actual abuses of power — especially when you can imagine that these abuses of power won’t directly impact you.

So, you looked into this story, and, since it won’t directly impact you, decided to suggest that “it was intentionally misconstrued “ — without bothering to support this assertion with anything at all: not actual data or even a well-constructed opinion.

You actually didn’t bother.

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Let me guess this is false like the Nebraska abortion story where she was jailed for concealing the body not for the abortion . Yet you even get Steve descano lying about it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me guess this is false like the Nebraska abortion story where she was jailed for concealing the body not for the abortion . Yet you even get Steve descano lying about it

It’s on pages 6 and 71 of the relevant document, at least the nugget about how they got great personal skills from being enslaved.

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Anonymous wrote:Did we think Florida Man was a scholar?!

Well, DeSantis, who’s happy to spearhead this mess, went to Yale and Harvard Law — so he may or may not be a scholar, but he definitely knows enough about what an excellent education can be to know that he’s deliberately condemning students and educators in Florida to something substandard.

Funny, he didn’t go to college in Florida. He’s turning a backwards state into an even greater intellectual backwater.

He graduated magna cum laude from Yale and earned a law degree from Harvard. Sounds as if the schools in Florida gave him a great education and preparation for those challenging Ivies.

Challenging ivies? You mean crappy leftist woke useless education. He decides his elite education.

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Derides*

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Anonymous wrote:Let me guess this is false like the Nebraska abortion story where she was jailed for concealing the body not for the abortion . Yet you even get Steve descano lying about it

It’s on pages 6 and 71 of the relevant document, at least the nugget about how they got great personal skills from being enslaved.

DP. I looked at pages 5-6 and 70-72, and the standards are fine. As a whole, and all the subsections in context. Read all of it and you'll see that it's fine. And a much more detailed history than I learned in school, including my college history class.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me guess this is false like the Nebraska abortion story where she was jailed for concealing the body not for the abortion . Yet you even get Steve descano lying about it

It’s on pages 6 and 71 of the relevant document, at least the nugget about how they got great personal skills from being enslaved.

Which page has the professional (as opposed to personal) skills they learned?

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't really paying attention to this news story because it appeared to be so obviously BS that it wasn't worth reading. Then I realized that was the wrong way to go, because if we quit paying attention to potential abuses of power, we won't notice them when they happen.

So I looked into this story and, well, it was intentionally misconstrued to smear Florida. I don't know why I bother.

Oh well by all means, share your proof with the class.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me guess this is false like the Nebraska abortion story where she was jailed for concealing the body not for the abortion . Yet you even get Steve descano lying about it

It’s on pages 6 and 71 of the relevant document, at least the nugget about how they got great personal skills from being enslaved.

Which page has the professional (as opposed to personal) skills they learned?

See post at 18:00.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me guess this is false like the Nebraska abortion story where she was jailed for concealing the body not for the abortion . Yet you even get Steve descano lying about it

It’s on pages 6 and 71 of the relevant document, at least the nugget about how they got great personal skills from being enslaved.

Which page has the professional (as opposed to personal) skills they learned?

See post at 18:00.

Excellent. Thank you.
Good to finally have the truth on page 9.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't really paying attention to this news story because it appeared to be so obviously BS that it wasn't worth reading. Then I realized that was the wrong way to go, because if we quit paying attention to potential abuses of power, we won't notice them when they happen.

So I looked into this story and, well, it was intentionally misconstrued to smear Florida. I don't know why I bother.

Oh well by all means, share your proof with the class.

It’s still a dumb thing to say and a dumb way to say it. Were they more likely to earn a trade if they were slaves than if they were free? Hell No. So slavery didn’t give them skills. Working gave them skills and occasionally their aptitude was recognized and their owners rented them out as tradesmen, for the benefit of their owner. They would have learned more skills and benefited more from their skills if they were free. It’s not a “benefit” of slavery. If Florida can name the slaves who learned skilled trades, there weren’t very damn many of them. After the Civil War, there immediately were many more Black skilled tradesmen in many more industries than there had been in slavery because slavery had intentionally kept most of them ignorant and isolated as captive field hands.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't really paying attention to this news story because it appeared to be so obviously BS that it wasn't worth reading. Then I realized that was the wrong way to go, because if we quit paying attention to potential abuses of power, we won't notice them when they happen.

So I looked into this story and, well, it was intentionally misconstrued to smear Florida. I don't know why I bother.

Oh well by all means, share your proof with the class.

It’s still a dumb thing to say and a dumb way to say it. Were they more likely to earn a trade if they were slaves than if they were free? Hell No. So slavery didn’t give them skills. Working gave them skills and occasionally their aptitude was recognized and their owners rented them out as tradesmen, for the benefit of their owner. They would have learned more skills and benefited more from their skills if they were free. It’s not a “benefit” of slavery. If Florida can name the slaves who learned skilled trades, there weren’t very damn many of them. After the Civil War, there immediately were many more Black skilled tradesmen in many more industries than there had been in slavery because slavery had intentionally kept most of them ignorant and isolated as captive field hands.

Regardless, nothing stated is not true. They did learn skills that benefited them. And, this press release cites specific examples.
Sorry that disturbs you so.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't really paying attention to this news story because it appeared to be so obviously BS that it wasn't worth reading. Then I realized that was the wrong way to go, because if we quit paying attention to potential abuses of power, we won't notice them when they happen.

So I looked into this story and, well, it was intentionally misconstrued to smear Florida. I don't know why I bother.

Oh well by all means, share your proof with the class.

It’s still a dumb thing to say and a dumb way to say it. Were they more likely to earn a trade if they were slaves than if they were free? Hell No. So slavery didn’t give them skills. Working gave them skills and occasionally their aptitude was recognized and their owners rented them out as tradesmen, for the benefit of their owner. They would have learned more skills and benefited more from their skills if they were free. It’s not a “benefit” of slavery. If Florida can name the slaves who learned skilled trades, there weren’t very damn many of them. After the Civil War, there immediately were many more Black skilled tradesmen in many more industries than there had been in slavery because slavery had intentionally kept most of them ignorant and isolated as captive field hands.

Regardless, nothing stated is not true. They did learn skills that benefited them. And, this press release cites specific examples.
Sorry that disturbs you so.

A few slaves learned skills despite slavery, not because of it. Many more would have learned specialized skills if they had not been slaves. It’s stupid to attribute their skills to slavery. It’s because of slavery that there were so few with specialized skills.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't really paying attention to this news story because it appeared to be so obviously BS that it wasn't worth reading. Then I realized that was the wrong way to go, because if we quit paying attention to potential abuses of power, we won't notice them when they happen.

So I looked into this story and, well, it was intentionally misconstrued to smear Florida. I don't know why I bother.

Oh well by all means, share your proof with the class.

It’s still a dumb thing to say and a dumb way to say it. Were they more likely to earn a trade if they were slaves than if they were free? Hell No. So slavery didn’t give them skills. Working gave them skills and occasionally their aptitude was recognized and their owners rented them out as tradesmen, for the benefit of their owner. They would have learned more skills and benefited more from their skills if they were free. It’s not a “benefit” of slavery. If Florida can name the slaves who learned skilled trades, there weren’t very damn many of them. After the Civil War, there immediately were many more Black skilled tradesmen in many more industries than there had been in slavery because slavery had intentionally kept most of them ignorant and isolated as captive field hands.

Can you read? Do you have a brain and any understanding of what children can learn, both good and bad?

I wish I could say I'm surprised that you would argue about this ... but I'm not. SMH

It wasn’t a “good” of slavery. Slavery prevented many more from gaining specialty skills and prevented those with skills from owning the agency to use their skills when and where and how and for whom they wanted. So, yea, they were skilled slaves, but they were still slaves, controlled by their owners.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn't really paying attention to this news story because it appeared to be so obviously BS that it wasn't worth reading. Then I realized that was the wrong way to go, because if we quit paying attention to potential abuses of power, we won't notice them when they happen.

So I looked into this story and, well, it was intentionally misconstrued to smear Florida. I don't know why I bother.

Oh well by all means, share your proof with the class.

It’s still a dumb thing to say and a dumb way to say it. Were they more likely to earn a trade if they were slaves than if they were free? Hell No. So slavery didn’t give them skills. Working gave them skills and occasionally their aptitude was recognized and their owners rented them out as tradesmen, for the benefit of their owner. They would have learned more skills and benefited more from their skills if they were free. It’s not a “benefit” of slavery. If Florida can name the slaves who learned skilled trades, there weren’t very damn many of them. After the Civil War, there immediately were many more Black skilled tradesmen in many more industries than there had been in slavery because slavery had intentionally kept most of them ignorant and isolated as captive field hands.

Regardless, nothing stated is not true. They did learn skills that benefited them. And, this press release cites specific examples.
Sorry that disturbs you so.

A few slaves learned skills despite slavery, not because of it. Many more would have learned specialized skills if they had not been slaves. It’s stupid to attribute their skills to slavery. It’s because of slavery that there were so few with specialized skills.

. Let's stop referring to them as slaves. These were human victims of trafficking.

Further these people often already had these skills they weren't benevolently taught by their traffickers. They were specifically bought sold and exploited for their skills.