DD's teacher has a "cry board" in her classroom

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD's 9th grade photography teacher has a board hanging up in her classroom called "closet tears". Yesterday, DD was told by this teacher that she was going to fail her for "not trying hard enough". DD started to cry, as she HAS been trying as best she could to catch up, but the teacher refused to reduce any of the workload despite legitimate absences. DD has been very sick the second half of this year, including being in the hospital and finally getting diagnosed with an autoimmune disease a few weeks ago. The teacher told DD to walk over and put a hash mark on the "closet tears" board.

I was already livid and now I'm just in an absolute rage. She has an IEP for dyslexia, dysgraphia and slow processing speed. I contacted the school on May 24th after we got her diagnosis and asked for an IEP meeting to address her medical conditions. After several email reminders, they finally scheduled it for August 14th.

Do we have any recourse to fight the failing grade? And the teacher bullying her students by boasting about making them cry? WTF?

Oh, DD has video of the closet tears board. She took it before leaving class yesterday (last day of school).

March into the principal 's office and reach out to the media.

Oh, please. “The media” does not care.

Not the TV news but absolutely go blitzkrieg on social media.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To the PP who keeps saying to talk to the teacher- is that the same advice you would give of the student told her mom she’d been touched inappropriately by a teacher? Go in and see if the teacher can talk it away, maybe it was a misunderstanding? I sure hope not.

This is not to that extreme but I have a child who has been repeatedly lied about by a teacher in the past. Kids need to feel believed especially when someone is being a sh*t to them and they have video evidence. This is not one of those times I’d be pushing my child to see the teachers side of things. I’d be going directly to the principal on her behalf.

My kid had an accommodation that a teacher refused to provide. We complained to the admin. Teacher was adamant she was providing accommodation. We were lucky that the AP cared and checked out the class several times in a week and verified the teacher lied. She never provided the accommodation which was simple. The woman would give the class assignments orally - ie not write them down or provide documentation of assignments. Accommodation provided assignments were written even if on the board so kid could take a photo. She never did and got caught. What kind of sicko is this nasty to not provide something that is a good teaching practice. We encountered this kind of insanity constantly.

PP keep arguing for the teacher but those of us who've lived this are fed up by high school.

Also in my county teachers are not available within a week or so of school ending. Their contracts end and we found they wouldn't respond. Op will be dealing with the administration anyway. I would talk to them first but I absolutely would take this to social media so anyone else who wants to hire this psycho knows.

Please don’t go to social media. This is very bad advice. This will only make you, Op, look completely aggressive and unhinged. Social media is not the way to handle Human resource problems. The baggage of social media resides with the poster. Op, you can handle this without creating more derogatory attention to yourself and your daughter. Social media just shows the posters to be loons.

This couldn't be more inaccurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD's 9th grade photography teacher has a board hanging up in her classroom called "closet tears". Yesterday, DD was told by this teacher that she was going to fail her for "not trying hard enough". DD started to cry, as she HAS been trying as best she could to catch up, but the teacher refused to reduce any of the workload despite legitimate absences. DD has been very sick the second half of this year, including being in the hospital and finally getting diagnosed with an autoimmune disease a few weeks ago. The teacher told DD to walk over and put a hash mark on the "closet tears" board.

I was already livid and now I'm just in an absolute rage. She has an IEP for dyslexia, dysgraphia and slow processing speed. I contacted the school on May 24th after we got her diagnosis and asked for an IEP meeting to address her medical conditions. After several email reminders, they finally scheduled it for August 14th.

Do we have any recourse to fight the failing grade? And the teacher bullying her students by boasting about making them cry? WTF?

Oh, DD has video of the closet tears board. She took it before leaving class yesterday (last day of school).

March into the principal 's office and reach out to the media.

Oh, please. “The media” does not care.

Oh yes they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the PP who keeps saying to talk to the teacher- is that the same advice you would give of the student told her mom she’d been touched inappropriately by a teacher? Go in and see if the teacher can talk it away, maybe it was a misunderstanding? I sure hope not.

This is not to that extreme but I have a child who has been repeatedly lied about by a teacher in the past. Kids need to feel believed especially when someone is being a sh*t to them and they have video evidence. This is not one of those times I’d be pushing my child to see the teachers side of things. I’d be going directly to the principal on her behalf.

My kid had an accommodation that a teacher refused to provide. We complained to the admin. Teacher was adamant she was providing accommodation. We were lucky that the AP cared and checked out the class several times in a week and verified the teacher lied. She never provided the accommodation which was simple. The woman would give the class assignments orally - ie not write them down or provide documentation of assignments. Accommodation provided assignments were written even if on the board so kid could take a photo. She never did and got caught. What kind of sicko is this nasty to not provide something that is a good teaching practice. We encountered this kind of insanity constantly.

PP keep arguing for the teacher but those of us who've lived this are fed up by high school.

Also in my county teachers are not available within a week or so of school ending. Their contracts end and we found they wouldn't respond. Op will be dealing with the administration anyway. I would talk to them first but I absolutely would take this to social media so anyone else who wants to hire this psycho knows.

Please don’t go to social media. This is very bad advice. This will only make you, Op, look completely aggressive and unhinged. Social media is not the way to handle Human resource problems. The baggage of social media resides with the poster. Op, you can handle this without creating more derogatory attention to yourself and your daughter. Social media just shows the posters to be loons.

This couldn't be more inaccurate.

Agreed. Who are these people making up "facts". I would call the school admin and deal with them. If they weren't responsive, I would definitely being sharing the info about the school and teacher. I would also record what ever conversation is had about both issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Students also lie, embellish, and twist stories, too. There needs to be an investigation on both sides. This student could just be a pot-stirrer, too. The cry room may be for a student to collect themselves. The student must have been a very poor student to be failing a photography class. The admin should investigate how many days the student truly missed and what is going on in the other classes. Students are turning into bullies now with cameras. They try to create false narratives about teachers to suit their agenda. One must be careful to place total blame on the teacher. How many attempts were offered to the student and work is still not turned in? Different rules can’t be created for one student. Either the student deserves an incomplete or an F. Which is it? I find it hard to believe that this is some stellar student.

Schools absolutely make various accommodations for individual students. Do you know what an IEP is?

And yes, there’s a need to investigate. But you don't give suspects an opportunity to destroy evidence during investigations. The pp claiming to be a teacher that has been suggesting that the OP needs to talk to the teacher is being incredibly naive. Either that or she believes the OP and wants a cover-up.

This thread had jumped the shark.

I’m one of 2 (at least) posters who are saying to involve the teacher in the conversation.

This is getting silly. It’s presumably already on video. What is there to cover up, and why would I WANT a cover up?

I just don’t approve of taking people down without an investigation. I’ve seen that happen to a teacher who was 100% innocent of the allegations against her.

Just talk to admin and the teacher. Why does this need to be a big deal?

What the teacher is doing IS a big deal. Your need to minimize everything about this is suspect. I agree that op should contact the admin and the teacher and decide what to do based on their response. Do you think the teacher is even going to respond given she is probably no longer under contract. If what op's child said is true, do you think this person should be teaching minors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students also lie, embellish, and twist stories, too. There needs to be an investigation on both sides. This student could just be a pot-stirrer, too. The cry room may be for a student to collect themselves. The student must have been a very poor student to be failing a photography class. The admin should investigate how many days the student truly missed and what is going on in the other classes. Students are turning into bullies now with cameras. They try to create false narratives about teachers to suit their agenda. One must be careful to place total blame on the teacher. How many attempts were offered to the student and work is still not turned in? Different rules can’t be created for one student. Either the student deserves an incomplete or an F. Which is it? I find it hard to believe that this is some stellar student.

Schools absolutely make various accommodations for individual students. Do you know what an IEP is?

And yes, there’s a need to investigate. But you don't give suspects an opportunity to destroy evidence during investigations. The pp claiming to be a teacher that has been suggesting that the OP needs to talk to the teacher is being incredibly naive. Either that or she believes the OP and wants a cover-up.

This thread had jumped the shark.

I’m one of 2 (at least) posters who are saying to involve the teacher in the conversation.

This is getting silly. It’s presumably already on video. What is there to cover up, and why would I WANT a cover up?

I just don’t approve of taking people down without an investigation. I’ve seen that happen to a teacher who was 100% innocent of the allegations against her.

Just talk to admin and the teacher. Why does this need to be a big deal?

What the teacher is doing IS a big deal. Your need to minimize everything about this is suspect. I agree that op should contact the admin and the teacher and decide what to do based on their response. Do you think the teacher is even going to respond given she is probably no longer under contract. If what op's child said is true, do you think this person should be teaching minors?

It’s a big deal if the teacher is ACTUALLY doing what the OP claims is happening.

If it’s true, then the teacher shouldn’t be around students.

But is it true? We don’t know. Perhaps this video shows something far more innocent than what the OP alleges.

I’m not one for McCarthyism-style hunts. Investigate first. Deal with later.

Too many posters are ready to tear the teacher apart, and on what proof?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD's 9th grade photography teacher has a board hanging up in her classroom called "closet tears". Yesterday, DD was told by this teacher that she was going to fail her for "not trying hard enough". DD started to cry, as she HAS been trying as best she could to catch up, but the teacher refused to reduce any of the workload despite legitimate absences. DD has been very sick the second half of this year, including being in the hospital and finally getting diagnosed with an autoimmune disease a few weeks ago. The teacher told DD to walk over and put a hash mark on the "closet tears" board.

I was already livid and now I'm just in an absolute rage. She has an IEP for dyslexia, dysgraphia and slow processing speed. I contacted the school on May 24th after we got her diagnosis and asked for an IEP meeting to address her medical conditions. After several email reminders, they finally scheduled it for August 14th.

Do we have any recourse to fight the failing grade? And the teacher bullying her students by boasting about making them cry? WTF?

Oh, DD has video of the closet tears board. She took it before leaving class yesterday (last day of school).

March into the principal 's office and reach out to the media.

Oh, please. “The media” does not care.

Not the TV news but absolutely go blitzkrieg on social media.

Wow. Your absurd level of melodrama may be feeding your ego, but it definitely isn’t helping your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD's 9th grade photography teacher has a board hanging up in her classroom called "closet tears". Yesterday, DD was told by this teacher that she was going to fail her for "not trying hard enough". DD started to cry, as she HAS been trying as best she could to catch up, but the teacher refused to reduce any of the workload despite legitimate absences. DD has been very sick the second half of this year, including being in the hospital and finally getting diagnosed with an autoimmune disease a few weeks ago. The teacher told DD to walk over and put a hash mark on the "closet tears" board.

I was already livid and now I'm just in an absolute rage. She has an IEP for dyslexia, dysgraphia and slow processing speed. I contacted the school on May 24th after we got her diagnosis and asked for an IEP meeting to address her medical conditions. After several email reminders, they finally scheduled it for August 14th.

Do we have any recourse to fight the failing grade? And the teacher bullying her students by boasting about making them cry? WTF?

Oh, DD has video of the closet tears board. She took it before leaving class yesterday (last day of school).

March into the principal 's office and reach out to the media.

Oh, please. “The media” does not care.

Oh yes they do.

Oh, no, they don’t. Please, “reach out to the media” (no, that is not the same thing as posting on FB, as another poster ridiculously tried to assert). When the news runs a story or the newspaper runs an article about the teacher, your kid and the cry board, OP, be sure to share the link here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD's 9th grade photography teacher has a board hanging up in her classroom called "closet tears". Yesterday, DD was told by this teacher that she was going to fail her for "not trying hard enough". DD started to cry, as she HAS been trying as best she could to catch up, but the teacher refused to reduce any of the workload despite legitimate absences. DD has been very sick the second half of this year, including being in the hospital and finally getting diagnosed with an autoimmune disease a few weeks ago. The teacher told DD to walk over and put a hash mark on the "closet tears" board.

I was already livid and now I'm just in an absolute rage. She has an IEP for dyslexia, dysgraphia and slow processing speed. I contacted the school on May 24th after we got her diagnosis and asked for an IEP meeting to address her medical conditions. After several email reminders, they finally scheduled it for August 14th.

Do we have any recourse to fight the failing grade? And the teacher bullying her students by boasting about making them cry? WTF?

Oh, DD has video of the closet tears board. She took it before leaving class yesterday (last day of school).

March into the principal 's office and reach out to the media.

Oh, please. “The media” does not care.

Oh yes they do.

Oh, no, they don’t. Please, “reach out to the media” (no, that is not the same thing as posting on FB, as another poster ridiculously tried to assert). When the news runs a story or the newspaper runs an article about the teacher, your kid and the cry board, OP, be sure to share the link here.

I have in the past. I've dealt with reporters more than once re issues like this. You're such a know it all and not helpful. Most posters are saying to contact the school admin/teacher and you are ignoring that and repeating the same thing to one poster who is concerned about "evidence". Stop fighting with that poster and see that most of us expect op to take this to the admin and teacher first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD's 9th grade photography teacher has a board hanging up in her classroom called "closet tears". Yesterday, DD was told by this teacher that she was going to fail her for "not trying hard enough". DD started to cry, as she HAS been trying as best she could to catch up, but the teacher refused to reduce any of the workload despite legitimate absences. DD has been very sick the second half of this year, including being in the hospital and finally getting diagnosed with an autoimmune disease a few weeks ago. The teacher told DD to walk over and put a hash mark on the "closet tears" board.

I was already livid and now I'm just in an absolute rage. She has an IEP for dyslexia, dysgraphia and slow processing speed. I contacted the school on May 24th after we got her diagnosis and asked for an IEP meeting to address her medical conditions. After several email reminders, they finally scheduled it for August 14th.

Do we have any recourse to fight the failing grade? And the teacher bullying her students by boasting about making them cry? WTF?

Oh, DD has video of the closet tears board. She took it before leaving class yesterday (last day of school).

March into the principal 's office and reach out to the media.

Oh, please. “The media” does not care.

Not the TV news but absolutely go blitzkrieg on social media.

Wow. Your absurd level of melodrama may be feeding your ego, but it definitely isn’t helping your kids.

Your need to insult the parents and protect what sounds like an abusive teacher tells us everything about you.

[Anonymous]

I can’t believe how quickly people are to condemn the teacher. My son has anxiety and his perceptions aren’t always accurate because of his anxiety.

OP wrote in the subject line “cry board” when in actuality as she writes in the post it is closet tears space. If you google cry board nothing comes up so it could be a closet cry. it is a safe space some schools are creating during finals because kids are so stressed out. It is a safe place to go cry for 10 minutes. It could be the teacher is keeping track how many kids are using it to see if she keeps using this next year. Or it could be something else the teacher is doing that is trying to be helpful. If it was so egregious why didn’t OP include that in the email. If there is video why isn’t OP describing what is on it.

So maybe the teacher is just an awful human being or maybe there is another explanation. OP needs to find out more before going and accusing the teacher.

[Anonymous]

Sheesh. This thread has really jumped the shark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sheesh. This thread has really jumped the shark.

The teachers union has made an appearance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how quickly people are to condemn the teacher. My son has anxiety and his perceptions aren’t always accurate because of his anxiety.

OP wrote in the subject line “cry board” when in actuality as she writes in the post it is closet tears space. If you google cry board nothing comes up so it could be a closet cry. it is a safe space some schools are creating during finals because kids are so stressed out. It is a safe place to go cry for 10 minutes. It could be the teacher is keeping track how many kids are using it to see if she keeps using this next year. Or it could be something else the teacher is doing that is trying to be helpful. If it was so egregious why didn’t OP include that in the email. If there is video why isn’t OP describing what is on it.

So maybe the teacher is just an awful human being or maybe there is another explanation. OP needs to find out more before going and accusing the teacher.

Did you even bother to read the OP’s post? If so, try again.

[Anonymous]

I had a similar situation with my child and a teacher. I sat down with my child and we spoke at length about the details, who witnessed it, exactly what happened. I expressed the need for the entire truthful story with complete accuracy. In our situation there were other student witnesses so it was easy to determine she was being truthful. I then approached administration and handled it, she was no longer in that class. The most important thing to me as the parent was to show my child it is 100% not okay for a teacher to treat her that way and this is how you go through the process of handling it. My child has an iep and it appears very common for some teachers to not handle situations well for kids with ieps. You really need to document and record as much as you can bc without that, they truly don’t care ( in my experience). They will just try to deescalate the situation and forget about it.
I personally wouldn’t care as much about the grade, the greater issue is the treatment. Obv, opinions vary with that one.