Didn’t want UMD

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Anonymous wrote:Indiana is an extraordinary beautiful campus with lots to do. College Park sucks. Your daughter is smart, and congrats to her!


Lots to do 😂


It’s OK that world-class opera isn’t your thing, or competitive cycling, or hiking, or a ridiculous number of student clubs, or intramural sports, or rowing, or restaurants and bars (way better/way more than College Park), or live music (WAY more than College Park), or ice skating, or art galleries, or…

-Person who has lived, worked and studied in both Bloomington and College Park


I’d rather go to the 930 club or a short road trip to the beach / skiing, maybe an Camden Yards fells point Saturday, Annapolis after my internship at NASA, although the charms of Indiana opera are enticing… not quite Kennedy center quality.

Sorry,..for being kind of mean. I’m sure Indiana is great and
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DS did not apply because he didn't want a big state school.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Indiana is an extraordinary beautiful campus with lots to do. College Park sucks. Your daughter is smart, and congrats to her!


Lots to do 😂


It’s OK that world-class opera isn’t your thing, or competitive cycling, or hiking, or a ridiculous number of student clubs, or intramural sports, or rowing, or restaurants and bars (way better/way more than College Park), or live music (WAY more than College Park), or ice skating, or art galleries, or…

-Person who has lived, worked and studied in both Bloomington and College Park


+1. I love that place. I am a midwesterner though and the nasty folks out here upset me. No manners. Nasty.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Indiana is an extraordinary beautiful campus with lots to do. College Park sucks. Your daughter is smart, and congrats to her!


Lots to do 😂


It’s OK that world-class opera isn’t your thing, or competitive cycling, or hiking, or a ridiculous number of student clubs, or intramural sports, or rowing, or restaurants and bars (way better/way more than College Park), or live music (WAY more than College Park), or ice skating, or art galleries, or…

-Person who has lived, worked and studied in both Bloomington and College Park


+1. I love that place. I am a midwesterner though and the nasty folks out here upset me. No manners. Nasty.


+2
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Anonymous wrote:Just curious. Tell me about your kid who got into UMD and just didn’t want to go because it is close to home. As much as I wanted my kid to go there, she wanted to get away. So she is going to Indiana. -sigh-


My kid could not get into UMD College Park because we live in Montgomery County. Because of this we have to pay 4 times more tuition. I have paid tons of Maryland taxes for 3 plus decades and no pay off with UMD. Disgraceful.


Go to UMBC or something.


That is an A-Hole statement. My DC is in the top 10% in his class. UMBC is an OK school whereas UMD is a very good school approaching UNC Chapel Hill quality.


And just because "you live in MD and paid taxes for 30 years" does not entitle you to admissions to UMD. There are state schools your kid can get into and you are free to use those if you wish to get something for your tax dollars. But you are not entitled to anything.

Everyone pays taxes for some services they do not use much or ever at all. But it's for the general good of society. there are definately some state schools your kid will get into. Nobody is stopping you from using those. Most states have 1-2 schools that are challenging to gain admissions to. So you apply and give it a shot while having a balanced list of targets, including in state if you need that for finances. At least 15-20 states have state flagships that are challenging to get into. Look at California---most of the UCs are impossible to gain admissions. It's not unique to VA/MD.
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Anonymous wrote:Just curious. Tell me about your kid who got into UMD and just didn’t want to go because it is close to home. As much as I wanted my kid to go there, she wanted to get away. So she is going to Indiana. -sigh-


My kid could not get into UMD College Park because we live in Montgomery County. Because of this we have to pay 4 times more tuition. I have paid tons of Maryland taxes for 3 plus decades and no pay off with UMD. Disgraceful.


Plenty of kids get into UMD from MCPS--so that can't be the only reason!


Yes it can be the only reason!

My student is in the top 10% of his class at a top Montgomery County High School.
Montgomery County is allocated only a certain number of slots for UMD.
But for an "equitable" distribution among the counties, UMD would have 80% Montgomery County students. Frustrating for a student who did all the right things and made good choices.

My magnet kid got shut out at T15. 4.95 WGPA, 1580 SAT (perfect math score), all 5s on 9+ APs (I lost count), good e.c.s including top honors in a nationally recognized organization.

Why did they get shut out of T15 when kids in the same school got in with much lower stats? Because my DC's major is very competitive and the others are not, and the other has DEI that my kid doesn't.

There are many reasons why top performing kids don't get in.

I'm willing to bet there were kids at your MCPS HS who had lower stats who did get into UMD. Unfortunately, it's not just about test scores and stats. Major matters, too.


You only inserted "unfortunately" because that limited list of criteria would have favored your kid.

Schools get to curate the incoming class they want. Just like kids get to compose their own lists.

Great time for kids to learn to cope with the fact that we don't always have control over outcomes. And you move on...

yes, because DEI has nothing to do with achievement and academics. The color of your skin or what gender pronoun you feel like using that day should have no bearing on college admissions.

My kid can't help that they are heterosexual or born with a particular skin color. DC joked that they should say they are racially fluid because they are biracial, sometimes they feel like they are x race, and other times y race. That's how silly these DEI labels have become.


I disagree with you.

Classroom discussions/learning are greatly enhanced when people in the room bring different (versus one) perspective.

—Signed, a professor


Maybe in the easy majors. Not in the hard sciences


Let's not go here. This is rude. And, as a prof in the hard sciences, I disagree with this anyhow. The URMs at my university in the major where I teach are, on average, *more* accomplished both before and after graduation than many other kids. (The students I see struggling the most are honestly international students, which schools, yes even the need-blind elite ones, take for reasons of money and sometimes prestige depending on the applicant).

DEI is not a "hook" at the T10 school where I teach. The reality is that in 2023 excellence requires *more* than just great scores. And I say this as someone who would also be shut out now, because that was my resume, too. It's a bummer but we all need to adapt and ask more holistically what a successful person should be like now. An elite college isn't an entitlement for anyone, and honestly isn't even needed. Most of my successful (and especially self-made wealthy) friends and colleagues didn't go to a fancy undergraduate school.


+1000
Where you go does NOT matter, it's what you do while you are there.

Just look at the Exec team at your company (or your spouses). Most likely very few went to "elite" schools. I know execs who went to Towson who are multimillionaires before 40. In fact I know more millionaires who went to "no-name schools" than those who went to elite schools.
Once you get over the mental issues that your kid Must attend an elite college or bust, your kid will be free to learn, grow and succeed in life no matter where they go.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Indiana is an extraordinary beautiful campus with lots to do. College Park sucks. Your daughter is smart, and congrats to her!


Lots to do 😂


It’s OK that world-class opera isn’t your thing, or competitive cycling, or hiking, or a ridiculous number of student clubs, or intramural sports, or rowing, or restaurants and bars (way better/way more than College Park), or live music (WAY more than College Park), or ice skating, or art galleries, or…

-Person who has lived, worked and studied in both Bloomington and College Park


I’d rather go to the 930 club or a short road trip to the beach / skiing, maybe an Camden Yards fells point Saturday, Annapolis after my internship at NASA, although the charms of Indiana opera are enticing… not quite Kennedy center quality.

Sorry,..for being kind of mean. I’m sure Indiana is great and


I see your institution didn’t teach you how to finish a thought.
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Anonymous wrote:Just curious. Tell me about your kid who got into UMD and just didn’t want to go because it is close to home. As much as I wanted my kid to go there, she wanted to get away. So she is going to Indiana. -sigh-


My kid could not get into UMD College Park because we live in Montgomery County. Because of this we have to pay 4 times more tuition. I have paid tons of Maryland taxes for 3 plus decades and no pay off with UMD. Disgraceful.


Go to UMBC or something.


That is an A-Hole statement. My DC is in the top 10% in his class. UMBC is an OK school whereas UMD is a very good school approaching UNC Chapel Hill quality.


And just because "you live in MD and paid taxes for 30 years" does not entitle you to admissions to UMD. There are state schools your kid can get into and you are free to use those if you wish to get something for your tax dollars. But you are not entitled to anything.

Everyone pays taxes for some services they do not use much or ever at all. But it's for the general good of society. there are definately some state schools your kid will get into. Nobody is stopping you from using those. Most states have 1-2 schools that are challenging to gain admissions to. So you apply and give it a shot while having a balanced list of targets, including in state if you need that for finances. At least 15-20 states have state flagships that are challenging to get into. Look at California---most of the UCs are impossible to gain admissions. It's not unique to VA/MD.


+1
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I was recruited for athletics at 6 ACC schools and 6 Big 10 schools. Maryland was attractive athletically and had a competitive program academically which fit me. College Park is kind of blah and it just wasn’t the size. Michigan for example was a much better college town (I did not go there, with regrets). One thing that bothered me - and should not have given its status as the flagship in Maryland - is its low endowment - incredibly thin for a school its size. Professors complain about it, rightly pointing out that billions have gone to the money pit that is Baltimore as opposed to the University, and indeed for a school a dozen miles from the Capitol it should be the equal or better to Michigan or UCLA. Not overall bad, but a blah factor (and the costs everywhere were equal for me).
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Anonymous wrote:I was recruited for athletics at 6 ACC schools and 6 Big 10 schools. Maryland was attractive athletically and had a competitive program academically which fit me. College Park is kind of blah and it just wasn’t the size. Michigan for example was a much better college town (I did not go there, with regrets). One thing that bothered me - and should not have given its status as the flagship in Maryland - is its low endowment - incredibly thin for a school its size. Professors complain about it, rightly pointing out that billions have gone to the money pit that is Baltimore as opposed to the University, and indeed for a school a dozen miles from the Capitol it should be the equal or better to Michigan or UCLA. Not overall bad, but a blah factor (and the costs everywhere were equal for me).


Equal or better than UCLA because of its location? That makes no sense whatsoever.
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"UMD is amazing. College campus is alright. College Park is not cute and looks run down. That whole area need a facelift."

I guess you haven't been to College Park in a long time? There have been cranes up for the past 4 years non-stop. Nothing run down about the campus or that area of the town.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just curious. Tell me about your kid who got into UMD and just didn’t want to go because it is close to home. As much as I wanted my kid to go there, she wanted to get away. So she is going to Indiana. -sigh-


My kid could not get into UMD College Park because we live in Montgomery County. Because of this we have to pay 4 times more tuition. I have paid tons of Maryland taxes for 3 plus decades and no pay off with UMD. Disgraceful.


Go to UMBC or something.


My daughter is in the top 5% of her class at one of the top two Montgomery County High Schools and did not get into UMD which was her first choice. What percentage are in state vs out of state admissions to UMD?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just curious. Tell me about your kid who got into UMD and just didn’t want to go because it is close to home. As much as I wanted my kid to go there, she wanted to get away. So she is going to Indiana. -sigh-


My kid could not get into UMD College Park because we live in Montgomery County. Because of this we have to pay 4 times more tuition. I have paid tons of Maryland taxes for 3 plus decades and no pay off with UMD. Disgraceful.


Go to UMBC or something.


My daughter is in the top 5% of her class at one of the top two Montgomery County High Schools and did not get into UMD which was her first choice. What percentage are in state vs out of state admissions to UMD?

How can you be in the top 5% when MCPS does not rank?
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Anonymous wrote:I was recruited for athletics at 6 ACC schools and 6 Big 10 schools. Maryland was attractive athletically and had a competitive program academically which fit me. College Park is kind of blah and it just wasn’t the size. Michigan for example was a much better college town (I did not go there, with regrets). One thing that bothered me - and should not have given its status as the flagship in Maryland - is its low endowment - incredibly thin for a school its size. Professors complain about it, rightly pointing out that billions have gone to the money pit that is Baltimore as opposed to the University, and indeed for a school a dozen miles from the Capitol it should be the equal or better to Michigan or UCLA. Not overall bad, but a blah factor (and the costs everywhere were equal for me).


Equal or better than UCLA because of its location? That makes no sense whatsoever.


You couldn't be more wrong. Maryland has an incredible potential advantage being so close to the Capitol. To say that it makes no sense well, makes no sense. The school has improved over the years (it was virtually open admission for years), and in some cases, they do take advantage of their proximity to DC, including, by way of limited example, their concentration in Public Finance, which is among the best. Their engineering programs have also benefited from their close ties geographically to the Government, including NASA. By the way, my views are not really my own, but come from long time professors at the school, who believe that the school was starved for funds by the state in the 70's and 80's, blowing a chance to build up a much bigger endowment and to be competitive in a number of graduate fields, especially with the seat of Government being a wind at their back. Baltimore won the fiscal competition, and well, you can see the returns and judge them for yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:"UMD is amazing. College campus is alright. College Park is not cute and looks run down. That whole area need a facelift."

I guess you haven't been to College Park in a long time? There have been cranes up for the past 4 years non-stop. Nothing run down about the campus or that area of the town.


I am not understanding what you are referring when you talk about "College Park". I was just there last week and the tiny little commercial area near campus seems just as small and disappointing as ever (though agree it is not run down...things are fairly depressing when you approach from the DC-side however). I think the campus itself is great...but it seems being too close to DC counts against any kind of cool stuff actually happening in the city of College Park walking distance from campus. Not sure why College Park cannot be cool and dynamic in its own right, while also being a metro ride from DC.

It just seems odd that a town with a major university with 30,000+ kids is so disappointing.

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