DC driver with $12k in tickets flees US Park police, kills 3 people

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine if DC got tough on crime, law enforcement, and suspended the driver's licenses of people with outrageous bills for vehicle violations. 3 more people would be alive. More examples of how being lax on criminal behavior is destroying lives:


https://wtop.com/dc/2023/03/3-dead-2-injured-after-two-vehicle-crash-on-rock-creek-parkway/

But let me guess, suspending licenses and impounding cars of reckless drivers who have insane numbers of violations will violate rights and is oppression. Tell that to the families of the dead.


A person with $12k in tickets will not refrain from driving because his license is suspended. Impounding the car would be a good idea though.


Agree, impounding the car would make it quite difficult to vehicularly murder while fleeing
Anonymous
The city council in 2022 passed a law that would have allowed people to renew their driver’s licenses even if they had unpaid traffic fines, despite several council members’ concerns that leniency could worsen unsafe driving in the District. The law was not set to go into effect until October 2023, but then a federal judge’s ruling in a separate case forced the city to stop disqualifying residents with unpaid fines from getting or renewing licenses.
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At a news conference Thursday afternoon, council member Charles Allen (D-Ward 6) said the Rock Creek Parkway crash also highlights the need for better street design, noting that many corridors are designed to move cars at great speed.
“We have whole swaths of our city that are designed to simply move vehicles as quickly as we can, not ‘how do we move people around safely?’ And that’s a design issue,” he said. The District’s transportation department, he said, should be more aggressive in rebuilding streets to be safer spaces.
Anonymous
I don’t know if this is allowed but I feel so bad for the victims, so I’m posting it - there’s a go fund me for the passengers. They are trying to repatriate one of the bodies. It popped up on Nextdoor. If not allowed, please remove.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/jonathan-mendez-olvin-torres?member=25708359&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=whatsapp
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Count on Allen to draw the worst possible conclusion and further destroy DC. Can Congress just fire him?


How would a safer design for Rock Creek Parkway (which, by the way, is not under DC control anyway) destroy DC?


By the same logic, how would it help DC?
Anonymous
I slipped. I actually stopped down to discuss one of the idiocies Allen said. You can just assume they’re obstinate and designed against the residents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I do. I also believe they should be able to chase, license and impound ATV. I know someone who has 20+ citation and he is a ticking time bomb who thinks laws in DC are for suckers.

I bike and I drive. But I’m not a demagogue. I don’t think you should be doing donuts in the streets, endangering the others whatever your background


Yeah right a good police officer is going to risk a murder charge and their own life for a traffic ticket. The good ones didn’t need a rule to know that chasing for traffic wasn’t worth it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The city council in 2022 passed a law that would have allowed people to renew their driver’s licenses even if they had unpaid traffic fines, despite several council members’ concerns that leniency could worsen unsafe driving in the District. The law was not set to go into effect until October 2023, but then a federal judge’s ruling in a separate case forced the city to stop disqualifying residents with unpaid fines from getting or renewing licenses.
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At a news conference Thursday afternoon, council member Charles Allen (D-Ward 6) said the Rock Creek Parkway crash also highlights the need for better street design, noting that many corridors are designed to move cars at great speed.
“We have whole swaths of our city that are designed to simply move vehicles as quickly as we can, not ‘how do we move people around safely?’ And that’s a design issue,” he said. The District’s transportation department, he said, should be more aggressive in rebuilding streets to be safer spaces.


Wow. Spectacular. What if it had been his loved one?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a District driver, I've been seeing more and more fake paper plates and phony dealer plates. I'm also concerned that these miscreants will start stealing license plates and swapping them out at random. If your plates get stolen, its an absolute head ache to get new ones or get all the camera tickets expunged. And god forbid they use your plates to commit crimes.

The lack of enforcement regarding ghost plates, tickets, wreckless driving, etc is astounding. The cops ain't doing squat.


This. Our license plate was stolen then put on a stolen car which was used in a hit and run. It was an ordeal, to say the least. We also got several speed camera tickets in the mail.
Anonymous
I'm a democrat, but the DC government's response to this convinces me that DC continues to need oversight from Congress and that DC shouldn't get a vote in Congress.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat, but the DC government's response to this convinces me that DC continues to need oversight from Congress and that DC shouldn't get a vote in Congress.


Missing the days of Tony Williams and a more sane Council.
Anonymous
This might sound snarky but I don’t mean it that way- if there are no actual traffic laws in DC because they won’t enforce ticket payment, suspend licenses, impound cars, etc. why would people stop turning right on red? I don’t understand introducing new traffic laws but very publicly stating you won’t enforce traffic laws.
Anonymous
I an dead serious. We should all boycott parking and speed camera tickets until dc starts to enforce the law equally—and DC is no longer plagued by loud cars, atvs, speeding, carjacking. If it’s ok for some to do whatever they want, why not the rest of us?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I an dead serious. We should all boycott parking and speed camera tickets until dc starts to enforce the law equally—and DC is no longer plagued by loud cars, atvs, speeding, carjacking. If it’s ok for some to do whatever they want, why not the rest of us?


NP I’m not planning to pay red light tickets. Once the council shows they care about gun violence in my neighborhood maybe I’ll change my mind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I an dead serious. We should all boycott parking and speed camera tickets until dc starts to enforce the law equally—and DC is no longer plagued by loud cars, atvs, speeding, carjacking. If it’s ok for some to do whatever they want, why not the rest of us?


Great idea. Please start it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I an dead serious. We should all boycott parking and speed camera tickets until dc starts to enforce the law equally—and DC is no longer plagued by loud cars, atvs, speeding, carjacking. If it’s ok for some to do whatever they want, why not the rest of us?



People have been doing that for years, just normal taxpayers are finally catching on. It’s the same with metro now being payment optional. Only a sucker would comply.
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