1st day back in office, this is truly horrible

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Quit. Some of us have been working in person the whole time and can't stand losers like you.

You... need help.

You're not better than anyone else. If you have been working in office the whole time, that means you had to which means you have a very different job.

Some of us can't stand losers like you who rub in that you're in person all the time because you're not able to get a WFH job.

Loser narcissist decided to chime in and tell us who she really is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM shows who it is all along - a bunch of middling, unimpressive boomer middle managers stuck in a dinosaur mindset of the 20th century.

Can you all please retire and let the workforce modernize already? You are a huge drag on worker productivity with all of your inane micromanaging and stupid office culture that only wastes tons of time.

Wait there are boomers who are middle managers? I am a Millennial, not even an older one (I turn 36 this year) and I thought we made up all the middle managers. And we LOVE wfh because we all have young kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who has to go into tge office every day due to the nature of my work, I agree with OP. Why make someone who can do their work remotely come onsite?
I have a colleague who comes into the office once a month so that people such as myself can give her paper documentation. The rest of the time I don't need to see her face to face.

+1 Team OP.
Don't the rest of you want us off the roads?

It makes so much more sense to travel and coordinate for in-person just a few times a year. The rest of the times, someone's always virtual anyway. So virtual works.

I’m torn. I 100% don’t want OP causing unnecessary traffic, but it’s also just gross to complain like this when working from home is such a privilege.

+1

Do I want OP on the road? No- it makes my commute quicker and is better for the environment. But this level of complaining about every little detail is so entitled. It sounds like a bratty teenager.

[Anonymous]

Tech has a lot of wfh opportunities. Look into taking a position at a big tech company.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quit. Some of us have been working in person the whole time and can't stand losers like you.

You... need help.

You're not better than anyone else. If you have been working in office the whole time, that means you had to which means you have a very different job.

Some of us can't stand losers like you who rub in that you're in person all the time because you're not able to get a WFH job.

Loser narcissist decided to chime in and tell us who she really is.

I am actually glad my doctor doesn't wfh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many of us have been going back to work since 2021 and enduring wearing masks for a period of time and getting Covid checks at work. This is 2023. It’s time to get back to normalcy. Good luck, off, finding your next job. I hope they don’t give you a writing test.

Normalcy is now WFH. My employer cut our office lease short and I now don’t even have an office to go into. Sorry you have to schlep into an office, but based on my peer group, that certainly isn’t the norm.

OP has valid complaints. Being forced to go into an office is like getting a pay cut. You’re putting in more hours per week (commuting) and losing money on gas. COVID sort of let the cat out of the bag so to speak as far as employees realizing it doesn’t have to be this way. Employers can try to squeeze that toothpaste back into the tube, but it’s too late. Unless you have a need to be in person for a particular task, it just feels punitive and micro-managing to force people to do their work in an arbitrary office location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so before the pandemic you were ok waking up and polluting the environment and all that but now that your company is brining people back into the office and inconveniencing you -you don't like it?

Just confirming that you are showing your true colors.

It’s called progress. You sound confused by it. Just because something used to be done a certain way doesn’t mean it was the best way or that we have to go back to doing it that way.

[Anonymous]

I don't like working at an office either; that's why I work for myself.
Is this your first job and did you start it during Covid?
If you've worked at an office for years and feel this way now that you've worked from home for awhile, lol. But I mean, congrats on figuring out that commuting is a pain, I guess.

[Anonymous]

You go OP! I’m cheering for you. If we all band together and demand WFH then slowly industry will change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who has to go into tge office every day due to the nature of my work, I agree with OP. Why make someone who can do their work remotely come onsite?
I have a colleague who comes into the office once a month so that people such as myself can give her paper documentation. The rest of the time I don't need to see her face to face.

+1 Team OP.
Don't the rest of you want us off the roads?

It makes so much more sense to travel and coordinate for in-person just a few times a year. The rest of the times, someone's always virtual anyway. So virtual works.

I’m torn. I 100% don’t want OP causing unnecessary traffic, but it’s also just gross to complain like this when working from home is such a privilege.

+100. Not to mention…you’ve had it this good this long. Pony ride’s over.

DH and I both have full time WFH jobs. Many of our neighbors work from most if not all of the time. We’re in a wealthy neighborhood full of people working in law, IT, finance, etc. I find it amusing how many bitter office workers on here trying to convince themselves those of us working from home are “losers” in our pajamas watching Netflix all day. Go check out the money and finance forum and try to figure out how many of these high earners are actually commuting to an office on a regular basis …

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Were you this incapable of functioning pre-pandemic, or is it a long Covid thing?

Were you not employed before 2020? Suck it up buttercup. It’s call real life.

But pre-pandemic there were very few people who knew how beneficial working from home could be for their health, wellness, family life, etc. Most people who had a WAH grumbled about not having face time or being disconnected since WAH infrastructure wasn't as robust as it is now. Or they said they felt isolated or went house crazy if they didn't have a system in place for getting out of the house daily.
With COVID people had to adjust to being in the house more often, WAH, etc. They got new routines, new priorities, more time/less time, some marriages fell apart, some got stronger, and some families readjusted their priorities after realizing how LITTLE time they get with their kids. Companies invested in WAH capabilities and many of us were WAH- even when we would have transitioned back to the office at any earlier time- for 1-2.5 years. Of course I wanted to go into the office when I had a toddler at home part-time and my job was always taking a back seat to my DH's fed job, which always seems to somehow be in emergency mode.

Now people are being asked to revert back to the office but all the benefits of the office no longer feel like benefits. I get to control my house temp, I have a fantastic setup at home that I personally paid for, all my meetings are virtual, I save money on gas, I can work outside on a pretty day, I walk on my treadmill 2-3x day for 10-15 minutes, etc. Managers act like they want people to work but all I hear about are companies paying out the wazoo for return-to-office parties and office "culture" events, which are not working.

Progress was never made by going backwards and that's what many companies are asking people to do. There are some jobs that will never be able to, and were never able to, work from home. That is not the point of WAH vs WOH discussions. Those jobs are nothingburgers because they never had to transition to/from WAH and WOH. But I can assure you that the WOH people would rather have the WAH at home. All of my teacher friends complain about how much earlier they have to leave because of traffic. WAH people are also more likely to make mid-day appointments, thereby, reducing the amount of people who require early morning and late afternoon appointments.

I figured this out two months into my first office job when I was 25. So I created a freelance career. And people like you called me a loser without a real job for twenty years.
Now you've had a couple of years of working from home and you think you're super progressive for realizing that driving is bad for the environment and that a lot of office culture is a waste of time.

It's cute.

[Anonymous]

Welcome to adulthood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not live closer to work?

+1
Why did you take a job so far away?
You were presumably ok with commuting before WFH became a thing with covid.

Who says its far? Are you familiar with DMV traffic at all? Maybe many of you eat trash for breakfast, but if you are getting up, taking a showing, getting ready, cooking a proper breakfast, and have to do a 20-30 minute commute, that easily burns an hour and half.

Not everyone can afford to live closer to work of work locations are located where homes might cost 7 figures.

Mmkay. Well, keep whining and having toddler temper tantrums. That’s so much more productive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of us have been going back to work since 2021 and enduring wearing masks for a period of time and getting Covid checks at work. This is 2023. It’s time to get back to normalcy. Good luck, off, finding your next job. I hope they don’t give you a writing test.

Sorry you chose the wrong career.

They didn’t. Widespread WFH was a *temporary* concession during a pandemic. Deal with it. Put on pants, shoes and a bra (if applicable) and get on the road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Were you this incapable of functioning pre-pandemic, or is it a long Covid thing?

Were you not employed before 2020? Suck it up buttercup. It’s call real life.

But pre-pandemic there were very few people who knew how beneficial working from home could be for their health, wellness, family life, etc. Most people who had a WAH grumbled about not having face time or being disconnected since WAH infrastructure wasn't as robust as it is now. Or they said they felt isolated or went house crazy if they didn't have a system in place for getting out of the house daily.
With COVID people had to adjust to being in the house more often, WAH, etc. They got new routines, new priorities, more time/less time, some marriages fell apart, some got stronger, and some families readjusted their priorities after realizing how LITTLE time they get with their kids. Companies invested in WAH capabilities and many of us were WAH- even when we would have transitioned back to the office at any earlier time- for 1-2.5 years. Of course I wanted to go into the office when I had a toddler at home part-time and my job was always taking a back seat to my DH's fed job, which always seems to somehow be in emergency mode.

Now people are being asked to revert back to the office but all the benefits of the office no longer feel like benefits. I get to control my house temp, I have a fantastic setup at home that I personally paid for, all my meetings are virtual, I save money on gas, I can work outside on a pretty day, I walk on my treadmill 2-3x day for 10-15 minutes, etc. Managers act like they want people to work but all I hear about are companies paying out the wazoo for return-to-office parties and office "culture" events, which are not working.

Progress was never made by going backwards and that's what many companies are asking people to do. There are some jobs that will never be able to, and were never able to, work from home. That is not the point of WAH vs WOH discussions. Those jobs are nothingburgers because they never had to transition to/from WAH and WOH. But I can assure you that the WOH people would rather have the WAH at home. All of my teacher friends complain about how much earlier they have to leave because of traffic. WAH people are also more likely to make mid-day appointments, thereby, reducing the amount of people who require early morning and late afternoon appointments.

Nope, this is where you're wrong. It's not going backwards. WFH during Covid, for 99% of people, was a stopgap measure.

A stop gap measure that lasted for years and was incredibly successful. Many, many companies had record breaking years of profit. So management may have meant for this to be temporary but life has moved on and WFH is now a normal way of white, collar professional life.

Yes, a stopgap ,erasure for a pandemic. It’s over. Get to the office.