1st day back in office, this is truly horrible

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just went back to the office last week…and you are complaining???

As a manager, I am struck by those who whine about our hybrid, flexible schedule. Our leadership has essentially labeled the whiners as difficult, unproductive people who could easily be replaced. Trust me: everyone is replaceable.

While some people are productive at home, many are not. Whiners are rarely as productive as they imagine. Your post tells me you aren’t equipped to see past your own needs…and that means you aren’t as strategic as you think.

I don't agree with your perspective but I think it's held by many. Many of the people who were cut during Goldman Sachs layoffs were not in the office a lot. The cuts were about needing to reduce operating costs and shifting to a business model more similar to Morgan Stanley, but cuts they were also about productivity and performance and at Goldman Sachs that is intertwined with whether you are in the office. I don't think that being in the office equals productivity (sometimes it's the opposite) but unfortunately many companies still think that there is a relationship there.

As a manager with a very large team, I can tell who is producing and who is less productive. While some people are productive at home, some simply are not. We have eliminated those who completely checked out. With upcoming cuts, we are scrutinizing everyone using certain metrics. While being in the office isn’t a metric, I can report that the less productive staff are those that openly whine about coming into the office and oftentimes have excuses for not coming in when the rest of the team is in twice a week.

Also: in 2023, anyone professing a fear of covid who still avoids human contact when in the office isn’t going to last very long.

[Anonymous]

Our company closed the office and saved $$ as well as hire from lower cost areas. was a major win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. Hate to have you as a co-worker.

This is all of your co-workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why Gen Z and z boomers get along. It is tge two lazy self entitled generations in middle that are losers.

Here is an example. My company next Thursday is throwing a big Thirsty Thursday. As the new people, single people and bosses want to meet each other.

The hard core hermits between 34–55 are boycotting. Last time we had 100 percent under 30 and over 55.

I am 60 my kids are fully grown I hate WFH full time and remote with no office. The “kids” under 30 single Want to go in.


Should be fun. We are doing two same night. One in LA and one in NYC.

I am taking Amtrak, checking in hotel, we have a club rented out. Then let’s me last year do some bar hopping, was a blast. And I am old. It is kinda like the over 55 is the moms and Dads of the under 30 and it is fun. The middle people are just angry hermits.

I have been giving out best pizza. Bagels, best sites to see best bar info as a lot of young people new hires never even been clubbing or partying in NYC. Usually around 1am us
old folks turn in. Last year the young crowd stayed out till 4am.

Guess what no one needs you 36-49 years olds at work you are Debbie downers.

Ew. Gross. You're a 60 year old hanging out with Gen Z after work at happy hour? You sound like a creepy boss who thinks they stand a chance with someone you get than half their age.

No one in their 20s wants to hangout with 60 year olds.

This seems like a toxic work culture where partying is part of the workplace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s easy to tell who the dinosaurs are on this thread.

+1 they are pathetic and bitter, always believing the worst of everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh STFU. You’ve had YEARS more time at home than many of us. If you don’t like it, quit. What utter nonsense.

My job sucks so everyone else’s should too! Wahh!

OP is not the childish one here. Lots of bootlickers and crappy middle managers here.

Lol. Tell me you will never be more than a bitter, low level employee and are going nowhere fast in your company* without telling me.

LOL indeed. I am fully remote and a well paid SME so you are 0/3.

PP you are looking worse and worse, sorry you don't have a well-paid WAH like this poster who is burning you. PP you are the bitter sounding one. We high paid WAH folks are happy and productive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quit. Some of us have been working in person the whole time and can't stand losers like you.

You... need help.

You're not better than anyone else. If you have been working in office the whole time, that means you had to which means you have a very different job.

Some of us can't stand losers like you who rub in that you're in person all the time because you're not able to get a WFH job.

Loser narcissist decided to chime in and tell us who she really is.

I don't think you should use the word loser. It's really childish and you need to grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to adulthood.

Sorry adulthood sucks for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going to be really interesting calling people back to office.

Since people moved away without telling boss.

Some kicked back retiring as WFH cushy so why retire

Some are working two full time jobs and will have to pick which one to go back too.

Reasons above are enough reasons to force people back.

Oh you again. Why don't you retire already?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why Gen Z and z boomers get along. It is tge two lazy self entitled generations in middle that are losers.

Here is an example. My company next Thursday is throwing a big Thirsty Thursday. As the new people, single people and bosses want to meet each other.

The hard core hermits between 34–55 are boycotting. Last time we had 100 percent under 30 and over 55.

I am 60 my kids are fully grown I hate WFH full time and remote with no office. The “kids” under 30 single Want to go in.


Should be fun. We are doing two same night. One in LA and one in NYC.

I am taking Amtrak, checking in hotel, we have a club rented out. Then let’s me last year do some bar hopping, was a blast. And I am old. It is kinda like the over 55 is the moms and Dads of the under 30 and it is fun. The middle people are just angry hermits.

I have been giving out best pizza. Bagels, best sites to see best bar info as a lot of young people new hires never even been clubbing or partying in NYC. Usually around 1am us
old folks turn in. Last year the young crowd stayed out till 4am.

Guess what no one needs you 36-49 years olds at work you are Debbie downers.

You sound like a bored old perv.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why Gen Z and z boomers get along. It is tge two lazy self entitled generations in middle that are losers.

Here is an example. My company next Thursday is throwing a big Thirsty Thursday. As the new people, single people and bosses want to meet each other.

The hard core hermits between 34–55 are boycotting. Last time we had 100 percent under 30 and over 55.

I am 60 my kids are fully grown I hate WFH full time and remote with no office. The “kids” under 30 single Want to go in.


Should be fun. We are doing two same night. One in LA and one in NYC.

I am taking Amtrak, checking in hotel, we have a club rented out. Then let’s me last year do some bar hopping, was a blast. And I am old. It is kinda like the over 55 is the moms and Dads of the under 30 and it is fun. The middle people are just angry hermits.

I have been giving out best pizza. Bagels, best sites to see best bar info as a lot of young people new hires never even been clubbing or partying in NYC. Usually around 1am us
old folks turn in. Last year the young crowd stayed out till 4am.

Guess what no one needs you 36-49 years olds at work you are Debbie downers.

First, this is pretty close to gibberish. But is I understand you, you are saying that people (i) without kids and (ii) whose kids are grown and out of the house are more eager to come to work in person, and interested in traveling to go drinking with a bunch of work people in a Thursday night. They people with kids are less interested in that. And you don't see the correlation there?

It seems your critical thinking skills are on the same level as your writing skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why Gen Z and z boomers get along. It is tge two lazy self entitled generations in middle that are losers.

Here is an example. My company next Thursday is throwing a big Thirsty Thursday. As the new people, single people and bosses want to meet each other.

The hard core hermits between 34–55 are boycotting. Last time we had 100 percent under 30 and over 55.

I am 60 my kids are fully grown I hate WFH full time and remote with no office. The “kids” under 30 single Want to go in.


Should be fun. We are doing two same night. One in LA and one in NYC.

I am taking Amtrak, checking in hotel, we have a club rented out. Then let’s me last year do some bar hopping, was a blast. And I am old. It is kinda like the over 55 is the moms and Dads of the under 30 and it is fun. The middle people are just angry hermits.

I have been giving out best pizza. Bagels, best sites to see best bar info as a lot of young people new hires never even been clubbing or partying in NYC. Usually around 1am us
old folks turn in. Last year the young crowd stayed out till 4am.

Guess what no one needs you 36-49 years olds at work you are Debbie downers.

They’re not hermits, they have kids in school and the flexibility of WFH has improved their quality of life tenfold.

Because they use “work” hours for laundry, cooking, watching television and childcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why Gen Z and z boomers get along. It is tge two lazy self entitled generations in middle that are losers.

Here is an example. My company next Thursday is throwing a big Thirsty Thursday. As the new people, single people and bosses want to meet each other.

The hard core hermits between 34–55 are boycotting. Last time we had 100 percent under 30 and over 55.

I am 60 my kids are fully grown I hate WFH full time and remote with no office. The “kids” under 30 single Want to go in.


Should be fun. We are doing two same night. One in LA and one in NYC.

I am taking Amtrak, checking in hotel, we have a club rented out. Then let’s me last year do some bar hopping, was a blast. And I am old. It is kinda like the over 55 is the moms and Dads of the under 30 and it is fun. The middle people are just angry hermits.

I have been giving out best pizza. Bagels, best sites to see best bar info as a lot of young people new hires never even been clubbing or partying in NYC. Usually around 1am us
old folks turn in. Last year the young crowd stayed out till 4am.

Guess what no one needs you 36-49 years olds at work you are Debbie downers.

They’re not hermits, they have kids in school and the flexibility of WFH has improved their quality of life tenfold.

Because they use “work” hours for laundry, cooking, watching television and childcare.

If I fold laundry or chop veggies or take a walk while listening to a webinar, why does it matter as long as I’m doing my job. People can multitask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going to be really interesting calling people back to office.

Since people moved away without telling boss.

Some kicked back retiring as WFH cushy so why retire

Some are working two full time jobs and will have to pick which one to go back too.

Reasons above are enough reasons to force people back.

Oh you again. Why don't you retire already?

I don’t think I will ever retire. With WFH why would anyone ever retire. My one WFH job I can do in like 3 hours a day. Could do it from nursing home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going to be really interesting calling people back to office.

Since people moved away without telling boss.

Some kicked back retiring as WFH cushy so why retire

Some are working two full time jobs and will have to pick which one to go back too.

Reasons above are enough reasons to force people back.

Oh you again. Why don't you retire already?

I don’t think I will ever retire. With WFH why would anyone ever retire. My one WFH job I can do in like 3 hours a day. Could do it from nursing home.

lol