Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GFM is over $600k and he doesn't even have any kids to support. I've seen a breadwinner literally die leaving a bunch of dependent chidren and not get that much. Must be a fancy area.

It’s a horrible tragedy but this guy does not need $600k. That’s not going to bring back his children. I hope he donates this money to mental health organizations or other charities in his kids names.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GFM is over $600k and he doesn't even have any kids to support. I've seen a breadwinner literally die leaving a bunch of dependent chidren and not get that much. Must be a fancy area.

It’s a horrible tragedy but this guy does not need $600k. That’s not going to bring back his children. I hope he donates this money to mental health organizations or other charities in his kids names.

I find it so interesting what GoFundMes people donate to. What is money going to help with here, really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GFM is over $600k and he doesn't even have any kids to support. I've seen a breadwinner literally die leaving a bunch of dependent chidren and not get that much. Must be a fancy area.

It’s a horrible tragedy but this guy does not need $600k. That’s not going to bring back his children. I hope he donates this money to mental health organizations or other charities in his kids names.

I find it so interesting what GoFundMes people donate to. What is money going to help with here, really?

People just want to help in some way. Donating money is a simple way of doing that.

I don't really care what the recipient of the funds does with the money

[Anonymous]

I feel like I'd donate if I knew this guy would divorce her and go find peace somewhere.

I can't find sympathy for her. She jumped from a second story? I mean doesn't everyone know that'll at most break an arm or a leg and not kill you? It sounds like she did it to save face / as a defense. I have no doubt as they did in to the evidence they will find she was planning this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GFM is over $600k and he doesn't even have any kids to support. I've seen a breadwinner literally die leaving a bunch of dependent chidren and not get that much. Must be a fancy area.

It’s a horrible tragedy but this guy does not need $600k. That’s not going to bring back his children. I hope he donates this money to mental health organizations or other charities in his kids names.

I find it so interesting what GoFundMes people donate to. What is money going to help with here, really?

I imagine there will be lots of legal bills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like I'd donate if I knew this guy would divorce her and go find peace somewhere.

I can't find sympathy for her. She jumped from a second story? I mean doesn't everyone know that'll at most break an arm or a leg and not kill you? It sounds like she did it to save face / as a defense. I have no doubt as they did in to the evidence they will find she was planning this.

His wife will almost definitely be institutionalized and/or incarcerated for the rest of her life.

[Anonymous]

If your are considered not guilty due to reasons of insanity, are you automatically remanded to an institution for treatment? Or are some people set free after their trial? Is the insanity ruling still considered a conviction, just that you will never go to prison?

[Anonymous]

Most aware people now know that post-partum depression is real and dangerous.

That realization is a relatively recent phenomenon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

This is seriously one of the dumber takes I’ve seen on here, and that’s saying something.

Agreed.

My mom raised six kids with no help.

According to PP, she should have been a raving loon!

[Anonymous]

I live nearby and had severe PPD, I was suicidal. I also attended a 5 day a week outpatient program. I'm in shock. But for the grace of God

[Anonymous]

There's more awareness about post partum illness today. Also Andrea Yates seemed like a religious zealot who was being controlled by her husband vs Lindsay who was an independent working woman. This case is so tragic. I'm a survivor of post partum psychosis. It can happen to someone who has had a history of mental illness and it can happen to someone who hasn't. When it happened to me I knew I was losing touch with reality. Fortunately I knew I needed help and was able to get therapy and medication. But it took me several years to recover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GFM is over $600k and he doesn't even have any kids to support. I've seen a breadwinner literally die leaving a bunch of dependent chidren and not get that much. Must be a fancy area.

It’s a horrible tragedy but this guy does not need $600k. That’s not going to bring back his children. I hope he donates this money to mental health organizations or other charities in his kids names.

I find it so interesting what GoFundMes people donate to. What is money going to help with here, really?

I imagine there will be lots of legal bills.

Side question, is he obligated to pay for private counsel for his wife? I’m sure any number of name brand law firms would represent her for the publicity alone. They are from a wealthy town but the house was only $500k.

[Anonymous]

To those that are judging her horrible actions, we need to remember that she was out of her mind. This is not the act of a well or rational person. It's so sad and so tragic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like I'd donate if I knew this guy would divorce her and go find peace somewhere.

I can't find sympathy for her. She jumped from a second story? I mean doesn't everyone know that'll at most break an arm or a leg and not kill you? It sounds like she did it to save face / as a defense. I have no doubt as they did in to the evidence they will find she was planning this.

She is suffering from a real and serious mental illness. You need to read the memoir inferno by Catherine Cho. PP psychosis is real and terrifying.

https://people.com/health/author-of-terrifying-memoir-of-postpartum-psychosis-is-pregnant-again-unbowed-by-50-50-odds-of-recurrence/

[Anonymous]

Patrick Clancy public statement:

Thank you all for your love and support. The warmth I've received from the community is palpable and your generosity gives me hope that I can focus on some sort of healing. I've seen all of your messages and contributions, including some from people I haven't seen in over a decade and many I've never met. I see and appreciate everyone of you.

A lot of people have said they can't imagine and they're right, there's absolutely nothing that can prepare you. The shock and pain is excruciating and relentless. I'm constantly reminded of them and with the little sleep I get, I dream about them on repeat. Any parent knows, it's impossible to understand how much you will love your kids until you have them. The same goes for understanding the devastation of losing them. Cora, Dawson, and Callan were the essence of my life and I'm completely lost without them.

My family was the best thing that ever happened to me. I took so much pride in being Lindsay's husband and a dad to Cora, Dawson, and Callan. I always reminded myself that each day with them was a new gift. Callan usually woke up first and would rest his head on my shoulder for a few minutes as he adjusted to morning. Dawson typically sang or spoke his thoughts out loud for a while before we'd go get him. Cora was a big girl and would simply walk downstairs. I can still vividly picture her coming into the living room each morning with her hair in a mess, smile on her face. We always started our days together, reading books, cuddling up on the couch, and playing with magnet tiles. I loved taking them places, whether it was scooting at Chandler elementary, vacation, skiing, out on the boat, or to Duxbury Beach, one of our favorite places on earth. They gave me purpose and I never took it for granted. There is now a massive void where that purpose once was.

Cora had an infectious laugh and was stunningly beautiful. She was the cautious one, but it was really because she was so caring. She used to say she wanted to be a doctor and a mama when she grew up and she would practice by giving Callan check ups. If she was leaving the house to go somewhere, she would pick someone to take care of Caroline and Charlotte, her baby dolls. She had all the doll accessories available, so her sitters were well-equipped.

Before she turned 2, she was already wrapping them in perfect swaddles. We would tell her she's such a 'good little mama.' She loved all babies, both real and pretend. She loved sloths, unicorns, tea parties, going to lunch with Nana and Grandpa, and giving presents to people. She knew everything about princesses, her favorite being Sofia the First. She truly loved her brothers and us and said it often in her sweet voice. We did a lot of father-daughter activities together, like skiing and visiting San Francisco or just talking. I loved her, my first born, so much.

Dawson had beautiful, bold, brown eyes that beamed with friendship. He was naturally humorous and generous beyond the norm of a typical toddler, always willing to share his toys with others. For all the love he received, he always gave back more. His best quality was his pure kindness. He loved trucks, tractors, dinosaurs, Paw Patrol, 'worker guys' and being outside. He was adventurous and mischievous and enjoyed causing trouble, which he typically found hilarious. He was also remarkably smart. We always said if we didn't save enough for retirement, it'll be ok - we'll just live in Dawson's guest house. He would hug me tighter than most adults and every night he told me in consistent words at bedtime, without fail, 'goodnight dada, I love you.' We had a special bond from day 1. He was my buddy, my first boy, and truly a gift.

Callan was our easy going child. I always said it was because he was the third child - he had to adapt and he did easily. He was born with hardly any fuss and was by far our best sleeper. He was just an incredibly happy and vibrant baby, constantly smiling. Our nickname for him was 'Happy Callan.' He was sitting on his own and you could tell he was enjoying his growing independence as he would grab any object within reach. Sometimes he joined my Microsoft calls in the background, playing in his jumpy. I would keep my camera on, too proud to leave it off. He started saying 'Dada' whenever I walked in the room. The last moment we had together was our routine. I would come up from my office at the end of the day and swing him between my legs while he laughed and smiled. If I was ever having a bad day, Callan always knew how to heal me. Perhaps that's why he held on a little longer - to spare me whatever pain he could. As excruciating as it was, I was fortunate and grateful to feel his warmth until his very last moment. Faith is my only hope of believing he felt mine.

Callan died with enormous courage despite being so little. Maybe it was his way of demonstrating what I need to do to press forward. I'll always try to draw inspiration from him. He'll always be my little hero.

I want to share some thoughts about Lindsay. She's recently been portrayed largely by people who have never met her and never knew who the real Lindsay was. Our marriage was wonderful and diametrically grew stronger as her condition rapidly worsened. I took as much pride in being her husband as I did in being a father and felt persistently lucky to have her in my life. I still remember the very moment I first laid eyes on her and can recall how overcome I was with the kind of love at first sight you only see in movies. It really didn't take long before I was certain I wanted to marry her. We said 'I love you' to each other multiple times daily, as if it were a reflex. We habitually started every morning with a passionate hug, yielding a sigh of relief like we had each received the perfect medicine. If too much time passed with out a hug, she'd look at me and ask, 'did you forget?' We mutually understood the reality that people can have bad days, but we stuck to the rule that when one of us got lost, the other was always there to bring them home, always. She loved being a nurse, but nothing matched her intense love for our kids and dedication to being a mother. It was all she ever wanted. Her passion taught me how to be a better father.

I want to ask all of you that you find it deep within yourselves to forgive Lindsay, as I have. The real Lindsay was generously loving and caring towards everyone - me, our kids, family, friends, and her patients. The very fibers of her soul are loving. All I wish for her now is that she can somehow find peace.

I promise I'll put all my energy into healing and rediscovering my purpose. I owe that to all of you, Duxbury fire and police, our compassionate healthcare workers, our local faith leaders, the Microsoft community, and especially Cora, Dawson, and Callan. I don't know how or when I'll be able to do it, but your love and generosity will help me get started. I know that love always wins.

Cora, Dawson, and Callan, you gave me so much in your short time here. I don't know if the pain will ever go away, but I'll do my best to carry on in your honor. Dada loves you so much and will always remember you.

With love and endless gratitude