New Netflix documentary: "Live to Lead" from Harry and Meghan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of these people have shot videos for leave to lead in 2019 when Harry and Megan had nothing to do with the project. Several have come out recently upset that Harry and Megan are tied up with this project because they feel it reduces the credibility and the focus.

Other than Jacinda Ardern's response to a request for comment, which to me did not read as upset, who else?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are two over privileged narcissists who are angry because they aren't being worshipped. To complain about your free house because it isn't befitting their station in life when so many are homeless and hurting, is unconscionable.

They are petulant, whining babies and I hope the King freezes them out of his coronation. They wanted freedom but they still want daddy to support them.

Have you watched their Netflix doc?

DP

Apparently not.

They presented a solid and credible case for themselves and not in a whiny way. Meghan had a full and rich life prior to meeting and marrying Harry. They had shared passions that brought them together. Meghan showed herself as interested in both humanitarian pursuits and being an entertainer from a young age. Her half sister has no cred as she relinquished her own children and did not see Meghan when she was growing up.

The royal family did not protect Harry and Meghan from tabloid feeding frenzies with heavily racist undertones.

I actually like Kate and William as well. I wish William and Harry’s families were not cast as being in competition but as brothers in collaboration to serve Britain and the Commonwealth. Many people draw comfort from the familiarity and cultural continuity of these living symbols of Britain’s Glory days and long history - for better and worse.

However, the royal family squandered a golden opportunity to make themselves more appealing to contemporary diverse Britons and Commonwealth Citizens. The royals have an intensely racist past connected to slavery and colonialism but they could have shown they have made progress by welcoming Meghan into the fold. Instead they did the opposite.

And why is a Charles rushing to take away Archie’s and Lilybet’s titles in petty rebuke? He and Camilla should be doing everything they can to restore good relations with Harry and Meghan .it would be a win win for the monarchy.

The issue is that Meghan will not accept her place in the hierarchy. She refuses to be at all submissive to the people above her and is incensed that anyone has more perks or prestige than she does. I think the BRF did a lot to include her but she wanted to be the main star. Had no sense of deference to the line of succession and was affronted by it. Fundamentally I think she envies Catherine and will be a thorn in the side of the monarchy all her life.

[Anonymous]

^just adding, I started out liking her. It was her behavior over time that really turned me off. I’m not sure American audiences really get it as there is a culture gap but I used to live in the UK and it’s clear her ungrateful entitled self-aggrandizing attitude was not okay. Honestly I don’t think the BRF realized what they were taking on when they allowed a professional image manipulator and wannabe Hollywood A-listed into their midst. She plays the game better than any commoner would. Add to this that she is more intelligent than all the Royals (and especially Harry) and they have a real problem on their hands. TBH I think she saw this too and was just frustrated that they were holding her back from using her skills to leverage her new lifestyle into a brand like the Kardashians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of these people have shot videos for leave to lead in 2019 when Harry and Megan had nothing to do with the project. Several have come out recently upset that Harry and Megan are tied up with this project because they feel it reduces the credibility and the focus.

Other than Jacinda Ardern's response to a request for comment, which to me did not read as upset, who else?

If this doesn’t read to you as upset you are not very skilled at decoding diplomatic communication.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are two over privileged narcissists who are angry because they aren't being worshipped. To complain about your free house because it isn't befitting their station in life when so many are homeless and hurting, is unconscionable.

They are petulant, whining babies and I hope the King freezes them out of his coronation. They wanted freedom but they still want daddy to support them.

Have you watched their Netflix doc?

DP

Apparently not.

They presented a solid and credible case for themselves and not in a whiny way. Meghan had a full and rich life prior to meeting and marrying Harry. They had shared passions that brought them together. Meghan showed herself as interested in both humanitarian pursuits and being an entertainer from a young age. Her half sister has no cred as she relinquished her own children and did not see Meghan when she was growing up.

The royal family did not protect Harry and Meghan from tabloid feeding frenzies with heavily racist undertones.

I actually like Kate and William as well. I wish William and Harry’s families were not cast as being in competition but as brothers in collaboration to serve Britain and the Commonwealth. Many people draw comfort from the familiarity and cultural continuity of these living symbols of Britain’s Glory days and long history - for better and worse.

However, the royal family squandered a golden opportunity to make themselves more appealing to contemporary diverse Britons and Commonwealth Citizens. The royals have an intensely racist past connected to slavery and colonialism but they could have shown they have made progress by welcoming Meghan into the fold. Instead they did the opposite.

And why is a Charles rushing to take away Archie’s and Lilybet’s titles in petty rebuke? He and Camilla should be doing everything they can to restore good relations with Harry and Meghan .it would be a win win for the monarchy.

The issue is that Meghan will not accept her place in the hierarchy. She refuses to be at all submissive to the people above her and is incensed that anyone has more perks or prestige than she does. I think the BRF did a lot to include her but she wanted to be the main star. Had no sense of deference to the line of succession and was affronted by it. Fundamentally I think she envies Catherine and will be a thorn in the side of the monarchy all her life.

Nah, that’s your sour grapes on it, not reality. And I don’t even like her, I just think people are insane about her.

[Anonymous]

There is no doubt the press published heinous things about Meghan (as well as many positive things). However they also published heinous things about Charles & Camilla, about the relationship between Charles & Diana, about Kate Middleton (too less photos anyone? Remember the upskirt shot when the wind blew her skirt up? Very very invasive digging around her and her family and everyone they had ever known? The hounded her for YEARS before marriage and didn’t relent for a while after). There’s no doubt Harry has a hair trigger for it as he claims to have been traumatized. But there really isn’t anything new about what the tabloids (which are uniformly horrible) did to her. Did she really think that there wouldn’t be scurrilous commentary and bigotry when a biracial woman married into the BRF? Of course not. She just couldn’t deal with not be in control of it all (which by the way the BRF isn’t either). She didn’t want to be part of the devil’s bargain the BRD has made with the press, she wanted total creative control over her image.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Harry and Meghan are the only likeable people in that family as far as I can tell.

That doesn’t say much. We all agree wth ourselves.

And I think they’re each a joke, and neither is anywhere near as bright nor charming as they take themselves to be. Give me Camilla any day - but I’m not attracted to self-pity. YMMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of these people have shot videos for leave to lead in 2019 when Harry and Megan had nothing to do with the project. Several have come out recently upset that Harry and Megan are tied up with this project because they feel it reduces the credibility and the focus.

Other than Jacinda Ardern's response to a request for comment, which to me did not read as upset, who else?

If this doesn’t read to you as upset you are not very skilled at decoding diplomatic communication.

OK, sure. So, who else? You said several.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are two over privileged narcissists who are angry because they aren't being worshipped. To complain about your free house because it isn't befitting their station in life when so many are homeless and hurting, is unconscionable.

They are petulant, whining babies and I hope the King freezes them out of his coronation. They wanted freedom but they still want daddy to support them.

Have you watched their Netflix doc?

DP

Apparently not.

They presented a solid and credible case for themselves and not in a whiny way. Meghan had a full and rich life prior to meeting and marrying Harry. They had shared passions that brought them together. Meghan showed herself as interested in both humanitarian pursuits and being an entertainer from a young age. Her half sister has no cred as she relinquished her own children and did not see Meghan when she was growing up.

The royal family did not protect Harry and Meghan from tabloid feeding frenzies with heavily racist undertones.

I actually like Kate and William as well. I wish William and Harry’s families were not cast as being in competition but as brothers in collaboration to serve Britain and the Commonwealth. Many people draw comfort from the familiarity and cultural continuity of these living symbols of Britain’s Glory days and long history - for better and worse.

However, the royal family squandered a golden opportunity to make themselves more appealing to contemporary diverse Britons and Commonwealth Citizens. The royals have an intensely racist past connected to slavery and colonialism but they could have shown they have made progress by welcoming Meghan into the fold. Instead they did the opposite.

And why is a Charles rushing to take away Archie’s and Lilybet’s titles in petty rebuke? He and Camilla should be doing everything they can to restore good relations with Harry and Meghan .it would be a win win for the monarchy.

The issue is that Meghan will not accept her place in the hierarchy. She refuses to be at all submissive to the people above her and is incensed that anyone has more perks or prestige than she does. I think the BRF did a lot to include her but she wanted to be the main star. Had no sense of deference to the line of succession and was affronted by it. Fundamentally I think she envies Catherine and will be a thorn in the side of the monarchy all her life.

Nah, that’s your sour grapes on it, not reality. And I don’t even like her, I just think people are insane about her.

+1. This is all just COMPLETE conjecture. It's actually mad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of these people have shot videos for leave to lead in 2019 when Harry and Megan had nothing to do with the project. Several have come out recently upset that Harry and Megan are tied up with this project because they feel it reduces the credibility and the focus.

Like who?

Vague statements suggesting problematic behavior with absolutely no specifics— is fanning the flames without being informative. Was that your goal with this post? If not, I’d genuinely be interested in knowing more about who these people are — and what their criticisms have been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harry and Meghan are the only likeable people in that family as far as I can tell.

That doesn’t say much. We all agree wth ourselves.

And I think they’re each a joke, and neither is anywhere near as bright nor charming as they take themselves to be. Give me Camilla any day - but I’m not attracted to self-pity. YMMV.

Ah, yes, Camilla, who's friends with the person who called for Meghan to be stripped naked and paraded through the streets of every town in Britain while people throw feces at her. Camilla, who's taken it upon herself to call herself a champion for violence against women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^just adding, I started out liking her. It was her behavior over time that really turned me off. I’m not sure American audiences really get it as there is a culture gap but I used to live in the UK and it’s clear her ungrateful entitled self-aggrandizing attitude was not okay. Honestly I don’t think the BRF realized what they were taking on when they allowed a professional image manipulator and wannabe Hollywood A-listed into their midst. She plays the game better than any commoner would. Add to this that she is more intelligent than all the Royals (and especially Harry) and they have a real problem on their hands. TBH I think she saw this too and was just frustrated that they were holding her back from using her skills to leverage her new lifestyle into a brand like the Kardashians.

She isn’t more intelligent - she didn’t do as well at school as Catherine, she doesn’t have any artistic skills, she can’t maintain relationships. I know I’ll get shouted down but I don’t particularly care. What Meghan is is manipulative and remorseless in her discarding of significant people in her life - not just her dad, but childhood friends, her mailing her ring to her ex-husband. She’s brutal but that attracts admiration and the comparative lack of drama brought by others is seen as weakness instead of what it actually is, personal strength.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harry and Meghan are the only likeable people in that family as far as I can tell.

That doesn’t say much. We all agree wth ourselves.

And I think they’re each a joke, and neither is anywhere near as bright nor charming as they take themselves to be. Give me Camilla any day - but I’m not attracted to self-pity. YMMV.

Ah, yes, Camilla, who's friends with the person who called for Meghan to be stripped naked and paraded through the streets of every town in Britain while people throw feces at her. Camilla, who's taken it upon herself to call herself a champion for violence against women.

Camilla has done more to help DV victims than Meghan has done for anyone, at anytime. Yes, I saw their reality show. I wonder why she didn’t highlight Uvalde? What a total joke.

[Anonymous]

I’m no fan of Camilla either, she just seems like pretty much a witch. But what people here in the US don’t appreciate is that the UK is a society that heavily values people paying their dues and sacrificing and doing their duty. Camilla and Charles started out in the most torrid tawdry and embarrassing way possible. Charles then had to wait nearly a decade to marry Camilla, did not ascend to the throne until his 70s (he is I think the longest heir-in-waiting in BRF history) and Camilla served him for many years while they rehabilitated themselves in the public eye. Now that they have stood the test of time and people realize he always loved her and was forced to marry Di they are more accepting (although he still really isn’t very loved there). But it took decades.

Meghan basically came in like gangbusters as if she wanted to single-handedly shake up the whole establishment. The establishment was not having it. She was astoundingly unintimidated by it all and miscalculated her own welcome in the family, which was always conditional on her fitting in not on her bending the establishment to her will.

[Anonymous]

"A philanthropist is a< person(s) who seek(s) to promote the welfare of others, especially by the generous donation of money to good causes.

Everything they do is for money. This is greed not philantrophy! Stop bring taken in by this well dressed narcissistic snake oil couple