New Netflix documentary: "Live to Lead" from Harry and Meghan

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Anonymous wrote:The only real exception I see to this is Harry’s legitimate good works with the Invictus Games. That is straight up good service.

Too bad he bailed. But it will continue without him

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It's really quite amusing to see Meghan's hate-stalkers getting so flustered at the mere suggestion that Meghan might be intelligent. Ha! Truly one-dimensional, this hivemind is.

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Anonymous wrote:These are two over privileged narcissists who are angry because they aren't being worshipped. To complain about your free house because it isn't befitting their station in life when so many are homeless and hurting, is unconscionable.

They are petulant, whining babies and I hope the King freezes them out of his coronation. They wanted freedom but they still want daddy to support them.

Have you watched their Netflix doc?

DP

Apparently not.

They presented a solid and credible case for themselves and not in a whiny way. Meghan had a full and rich life prior to meeting and marrying Harry. They had shared passions that brought them together. Meghan showed herself as interested in both humanitarian pursuits and being an entertainer from a young age. Her half sister has no cred as she relinquished her own children and did not see Meghan when she was growing up.

The royal family did not protect Harry and Meghan from tabloid feeding frenzies with heavily racist undertones.

I actually like Kate and William as well. I wish William and Harry’s families were not cast as being in competition but as brothers in collaboration to serve Britain and the Commonwealth. Many people draw comfort from the familiarity and cultural continuity of these living symbols of Britain’s Glory days and long history - for better and worse.

However, the royal family squandered a golden opportunity to make themselves more appealing to contemporary diverse Britons and Commonwealth Citizens. The royals have an intensely racist past connected to slavery and colonialism but they could have shown they have made progress by welcoming Meghan into the fold. Instead they did the opposite.

And why is a Charles rushing to take away Archie’s and Lilybet’s titles in petty rebuke? He and Camilla should be doing everything they can to restore good relations with Harry and Meghan .it would be a win win for the monarchy.

The issue is that Meghan will not accept her place in the hierarchy. She refuses to be at all submissive to the people above her and is incensed that anyone has more perks or prestige than she does. I think the BRF did a lot to include her but she wanted to be the main star. Had no sense of deference to the line of succession and was affronted by it. Fundamentally I think she envies Catherine and will be a thorn in the side of the monarchy all her life.

Listen to yourself!
She should be submissive! She should accept her place!

🤦‍♀️

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Anonymous wrote:The only real exception I see to this is Harry’s legitimate good works with the Invictus Games. That is straight up good service.

Too bad he bailed. But it will continue without him

Why do the hater-fans of this couple have such a loose relationship with basic facts?

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a42110716/prince-harry-meghan-markle-ping-pong-invictus-games-promo/

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Anonymous wrote:^just adding, I started out liking her. It was her behavior over time that really turned me off. I’m not sure American audiences really get it as there is a culture gap but I used to live in the UK and it’s clear her ungrateful entitled self-aggrandizing attitude was not okay. Honestly I don’t think the BRF realized what they were taking on when they allowed a professional image manipulator and wannabe Hollywood A-listed into their midst. She plays the game better than any commoner would. Add to this that she is more intelligent than all the Royals (and especially Harry) and they have a real problem on their hands. TBH I think she saw this too and was just frustrated that they were holding her back from using her skills to leverage her new lifestyle into a brand like the Kardashians.

She isn’t more intelligent - she didn’t do as well at school as Catherine, she doesn’t have any artistic skills, she can’t maintain relationships. I know I’ll get shouted down but I don’t particularly care. What Meghan is is manipulative and remorseless in her discarding of significant people in her life - not just her dad, but childhood friends, her mailing her ring to her ex-husband. She’s brutal but that attracts admiration and the comparative lack of drama brought by others is seen as weakness instead of what it actually is, personal strength.

This is just completely made up? Meghan graduated from Northwestern with a double major. However you cut it up, that's pretty impressive and she clearly did well in school.

It is NOT made up: you are in fact presenting as factual things that aren’t. Meghan took no honors in college. Fact. Actual fact. Any celebrity who was cum laude or PBK has it in their Wiki. Actual fact. I’m tired of the presumption that a shameless, nasty grifter who is remorseless in attacking her sister in law is also her better. Nope. She isn’t, and it burns her, and the simple fact that she could not stand not entering every room first is why she and stupid Harry have lost much if not most of the goodwill they once had.

Ah, yes, because having cum laude or PBK is the sole marker of "doing well in school" - Meghan, who was able to attain admission into one of the US's best schools. Kate, meanwhile, went off to St Andrews, a school whose primary claim to fame is that Will and Kate went there. Anyone who knows anything about colleges knows that they're simply not in league with each other.

But I think it's really gauche to be bringing up one's performance in uni, even if you're the one calling out the pot shots.

FWIW Meghan hasn't attacked her SIL and in fact called her a "good person". Meanwhile, Kate is on record cozying up with the very people who have actually attacked Meghan in a court of law.

Kate seems like the better person. No one said she was a brain surgeon. But she has way more character than Meghan, in terms of having been extremely disciplined in her role within the BRF and maintaining her family while also allowing herself to be "owned" by the British people. Meghan would not do it.

Your ability to move goalposts is quite impressive. You were the one claiming that Kate is more intelligent than Meghan. When called out and faced with counter-evidence, you resort to questions of character, even though you don't know either of these people.

I'm not actually. I'm the one who said Meghan has the higher IQ but Kate has the higher EQ. You're arguing with more than one person, both of whom think Meghan leaves a lot to be desired.

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Anonymous wrote:^just adding, I started out liking her. It was her behavior over time that really turned me off. I’m not sure American audiences really get it as there is a culture gap but I used to live in the UK and it’s clear her ungrateful entitled self-aggrandizing attitude was not okay. Honestly I don’t think the BRF realized what they were taking on when they allowed a professional image manipulator and wannabe Hollywood A-listed into their midst. She plays the game better than any commoner would. Add to this that she is more intelligent than all the Royals (and especially Harry) and they have a real problem on their hands. TBH I think she saw this too and was just frustrated that they were holding her back from using her skills to leverage her new lifestyle into a brand like the Kardashians.

She isn’t more intelligent - she didn’t do as well at school as Catherine, she doesn’t have any artistic skills, she can’t maintain relationships. I know I’ll get shouted down but I don’t particularly care. What Meghan is is manipulative and remorseless in her discarding of significant people in her life - not just her dad, but childhood friends, her mailing her ring to her ex-husband. She’s brutal but that attracts admiration and the comparative lack of drama brought by others is seen as weakness instead of what it actually is, personal strength.

I didn’t say she was a better person or had more integrity or was more emotionally intelligent. I think she has a higher IQ. But there is no question that Kate is more emotionally intelligent and skilled at making and keeping relationships and is a vestry better-seeming person.

Why on Earth would you presume a higher IQ? One of them took honors in college and it wasn’t Meghan. One of them can play an instrument to some degree and draw; again, not Meghan. And I’ve seen Suits, and the emoting done there was by her struggle cleavage and tighter than tight pencil skirts. It was in no way appreciably more high brow than Deal or No Deal, actual truth be told.

I don't agree with pitting these women's intelligence against each other, but come on, let's at least be reasonable. Meghan went to Northwestern. Kate went to St Andrews. StA is fine, but it's not Northwestern. Meghan also speaks two languages and had a way more robust career in a way that Kate never had (and likely never could have).

I didn’t start it but I will certainly finish it. One of them did well, one didn’t pass the Foreign Service exam after her LONE “smart one” credential, her Argentinian internship from her “who are you again?” Uncle. I’d LOVE TO SEE the evidence that Meghan speaks any foreign language beyond the wine menu of a mid-range restaurant - she reeks of Melania Trump’s I Speak 6 Languages. Evidence, please - hey, you want to be reasonable, correct?

Oh, how embarrassing for you. Meghan narrated the Spanish translation for the audiobook of her children's book The Bench (you can hear it for yourself here), and there are numerous accounts of people describing her aptitude in speaking Spanish.

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a33064619/meghan-markle-spanish/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo9E8GPAETg&ab_channel=AccessHollywood

But of course, you'll refuse to acknowledge this and keep letting your tabloid-fueled bias against this woman inform your hatred.

You’re a total joke, as was this waste of trees. Thank you to the person who responded. Ev. I. Dence of decent mastery, please. No? Where is it? How embarrassing for you!

It appears you can barely speak one language, so I'm not sure why you're insulting anyone else's purported language skills.

No. Sorry, went to famously more selective schools than the Duchess, spoke a foreign language as my first, so native in something other than English; have studied others throughout undergrad and after. I’m not sure how this proves anything about Meghan’s claims re achievement in 2 foreign languages.

Who claimed Meghan's "achievement in 2 foreign languages"? She speaks English and Spanish. That's 2 languages.

You're embarrassing yourself.

That’s what people meant? Do some stretches with all that goalpost moving, querida. Embarrassed for you but that’s got to be the default for everyone near you.

Hahahaha ok pobrecita great job on your ability to use Google Translate. Sorry you get so angry when confronted with reality.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really quite amusing to see Meghan's hate-stalkers getting so flustered at the mere suggestion that Meghan might be intelligent. Ha! Truly one-dimensional, this hivemind is.

Its even more amusing that fools can not see the obvious in Me-Gain.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry and Meghan are the only likeable people in that family as far as I can tell.

That doesn’t say much. We all agree wth ourselves.

And I think they’re each a joke, and neither is anywhere near as bright nor charming as they take themselves to be. Give me Camilla any day - but I’m not attracted to self-pity. YMMV.

Ah, yes, Camilla, who's friends with the person who called for Meghan to be stripped naked and paraded through the streets of every town in Britain while people throw feces at her. Camilla, who's taken it upon herself to call herself a champion for violence against women.

You weaken your argument when you make stuff up. She’s not friends with him, she happened to be at the same party as him, hosted by the former CEO of Fortnum and Masons, along with 100 other guests.

You weaken your argument when you refuse to view facts objectively. Jeremy Clarkson has documented his friendship with Camilla in the past.

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/camillas-country-life-jeremy-clarkson-7330205

Don't let your preconceived biases cloud you.

Where's this PP who claimed Camilla wasn't friends with Jeremy Clarkson?

It seem anytime the Meghan hater-stans are confronted with any sort of counter-evidence, they always, always choose one of two options: (a) disappear and pretend they never made the claim to begin with, or (b) move goalposts and shout even more angrily into the void. Markers of unintelligence and/or immaturity.

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Anonymous wrote:These are two over privileged narcissists who are angry because they aren't being worshipped. To complain about your free house because it isn't befitting their station in life when so many are homeless and hurting, is unconscionable.

They are petulant, whining babies and I hope the King freezes them out of his coronation. They wanted freedom but they still want daddy to support them.

Have you watched their Netflix doc?

DP

Apparently not.

They presented a solid and credible case for themselves and not in a whiny way. Meghan had a full and rich life prior to meeting and marrying Harry. They had shared passions that brought them together. Meghan showed herself as interested in both humanitarian pursuits and being an entertainer from a young age. Her half sister has no cred as she relinquished her own children and did not see Meghan when she was growing up.

The royal family did not protect Harry and Meghan from tabloid feeding frenzies with heavily racist undertones.

I actually like Kate and William as well. I wish William and Harry’s families were not cast as being in competition but as brothers in collaboration to serve Britain and the Commonwealth. Many people draw comfort from the familiarity and cultural continuity of these living symbols of Britain’s Glory days and long history - for better and worse.

However, the royal family squandered a golden opportunity to make themselves more appealing to contemporary diverse Britons and Commonwealth Citizens. The royals have an intensely racist past connected to slavery and colonialism but they could have shown they have made progress by welcoming Meghan into the fold. Instead they did the opposite.

And why is a Charles rushing to take away Archie’s and Lilybet’s titles in petty rebuke? He and Camilla should be doing everything they can to restore good relations with Harry and Meghan .it would be a win win for the monarchy.

The issue is that Meghan will not accept her place in the hierarchy. She refuses to be at all submissive to the people above her and is incensed that anyone has more perks or prestige than she does. I think the BRF did a lot to include her but she wanted to be the main star. Had no sense of deference to the line of succession and was affronted by it. Fundamentally I think she envies Catherine and will be a thorn in the side of the monarchy all her life.

Listen to yourself!
She should be submissive! She should accept her place!

🤦‍♀️

She should. All the other members of the BRF do. It has nothing to do with race. That's what American audiences don't understand. They just see "biracial" and "know your place" and they see/hear "uppity black woman" tropes. That's really not what this is about. Sophie & Edward Duke & Duchess of Wessex (who replaced the Sussexes) know their place and they are white AF.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really quite amusing to see Meghan's hate-stalkers getting so flustered at the mere suggestion that Meghan might be intelligent. Ha! Truly one-dimensional, this hivemind is.

Its even more amusing that fools can not see the obvious in Me-Gain.

Maybe Meghan will Divorce Harry and marry Elon Musk. Elon and Meghan deserve each other.

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Anonymous wrote:These are two over privileged narcissists who are angry because they aren't being worshipped. To complain about your free house because it isn't befitting their station in life when so many are homeless and hurting, is unconscionable.

They are petulant, whining babies and I hope the King freezes them out of his coronation. They wanted freedom but they still want daddy to support them.

Have you watched their Netflix doc?

DP

Apparently not.

They presented a solid and credible case for themselves and not in a whiny way. Meghan had a full and rich life prior to meeting and marrying Harry. They had shared passions that brought them together. Meghan showed herself as interested in both humanitarian pursuits and being an entertainer from a young age. Her half sister has no cred as she relinquished her own children and did not see Meghan when she was growing up.

The royal family did not protect Harry and Meghan from tabloid feeding frenzies with heavily racist undertones.

I actually like Kate and William as well. I wish William and Harry’s families were not cast as being in competition but as brothers in collaboration to serve Britain and the Commonwealth. Many people draw comfort from the familiarity and cultural continuity of these living symbols of Britain’s Glory days and long history - for better and worse.

However, the royal family squandered a golden opportunity to make themselves more appealing to contemporary diverse Britons and Commonwealth Citizens. The royals have an intensely racist past connected to slavery and colonialism but they could have shown they have made progress by welcoming Meghan into the fold. Instead they did the opposite.

And why is a Charles rushing to take away Archie’s and Lilybet’s titles in petty rebuke? He and Camilla should be doing everything they can to restore good relations with Harry and Meghan .it would be a win win for the monarchy.

The issue is that Meghan will not accept her place in the hierarchy. She refuses to be at all submissive to the people above her and is incensed that anyone has more perks or prestige than she does. I think the BRF did a lot to include her but she wanted to be the main star. Had no sense of deference to the line of succession and was affronted by it. Fundamentally I think she envies Catherine and will be a thorn in the side of the monarchy all her life.

Listen to yourself!
She should be submissive! She should accept her place!

🤦‍♀️

She should. All the other members of the BRF do. It has nothing to do with race. That's what American audiences don't understand. They just see "biracial" and "know your place" and they see/hear "uppity black woman" tropes. That's really not what this is about. Sophie & Edward Duke & Duchess of Wessex (who replaced the Sussexes) know their place and they are white AF.

Sophie and Edward are the perfect example of how Meghan and Harry will be villainized for actions and behaviors that many other members of the royal family have done before them. Your unique and singular hatred from them betrays some sort of bias, but people don't like being told that they've been dripfed how to think by the media. Shrugs. One thing that's become clear to me in the past few weeks, as someone who was previously quite ambivalent about Meghan and Harry, is that they're undoubtedly on the right side of history on this one. The actions of the Royal Family over the last couple of weeks/months have completely vindicated pretty much all of their claims.

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I can understand people judging or criticizing celebrities. However, I don't get cult like supporters who can't hear any criticism against their beloved deities. Where is this devotion originating from?

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Anonymous wrote:I can understand people judging or criticizing celebrities. However, I don't get cult like supporters who can't hear any criticism against their beloved deities. Where is this devotion originating from?

Cult-like supporters? I'm seeing none of that, but much more of the opposite. Cult-like haters who are so devoted to their hatred against this person that they resort to name-calling and are genuinely incapable of incorporating new information or evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:I can understand people judging or criticizing celebrities. However, I don't get cult like supporters who can't hear any criticism against their beloved deities. Where is this devotion originating from?

Cult-like supporters? I'm seeing none of that, but much more of the opposite. Cult-like haters who are so devoted to their hatred against this person that they resort to name-calling and are genuinely incapable of incorporating new information or evidence.

You just proved my point.

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Anonymous wrote:I can understand people judging or criticizing celebrities. However, I don't get cult like supporters who can't hear any criticism against their beloved deities. Where is this devotion originating from?

Cult-like supporters? I'm seeing none of that, but much more of the opposite. Cult-like haters who are so devoted to their hatred against this person that they resort to name-calling and are genuinely incapable of incorporating new information or evidence.

You just proved my point.

Please explain the "cult-like" behavior that you're seeing.