Spare

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely not. I have no respect for someone trying to work out his issues by trashing his entire family on the world stage knowing they are hamstrung from responding in kind, or else just have more decency. He spent half his life screaming at the press for airing dirty laundry and here he is doing the same thing to everyone else in his family. What a self-absorbed, spoiled hypocrite. His father just lost his mother, and Harry decides now is a great time to pile on. Ugh. He's going to need his father and brother one day, because this marriage to Meghan won't last, but they won't be there because he's firebombing all the bridges. The whole thing is tawdry. Not giving it any attention or money.

Well said, pp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They were right to step back. Once William had kids, he really has no role except as personal assistant and it makes sense to have a life of his own vs. always in the shadow.

Nobody is blaming them for stepping back. It's the how and why.

[Anonymous]

Is anyone else following the "leaked" excerpts from the Spare book?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else following the "leaked" excerpts from the Spare book?

Yes. Unseemly is my first impression, but I supposed it had to be to earn that multi-million advance. Honestly don't know why his family would ever speak to him again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were right to step back. Once William had kids, he really has no role except as personal assistant and it makes sense to have a life of his own vs. always in the shadow.

Nobody is blaming them for stepping back. It's the how and why.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else following the "leaked" excerpts from the Spare book?

Yes. Unseemly is my first impression, but I supposed it had to be to earn that multi-million advance. Honestly don't know why his family would ever speak to him again.

The funny thing is he was such a screwup when he was younger, and was bailed out at every turn. He seems to take little accountability for his actions.

[Anonymous]

The description of the fight makes prince William seem like such a petty and ineffectual bully.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else following the "leaked" excerpts from the Spare book?

I have never liked Charles but I felt sympathy for him for the very first time: "Boys, please don't make my final years a misery." Sigh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, I won’t be reading it, listening to his wife’s podcast, or watching their curated reality show/documentary. I have no respect for someone who is selling out their family to be wealthy and famous.

So what's funny is that Harry is complaining that he has been sold out his entire life. To protect his brother. And he took it. But he drew the line once his wife and future child was involved and were being throw to the wolves (the press).

What is most fascinating to me is that William can't seem to see how his children will suffer this same fate if he doesn't work to change things from the inside. Does he want Charlotte and Louis to be fed to the wolves to protect George? Because that will happen. And it will tear them apart the exact same way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The description of the fight makes prince William seem like such a petty and ineffectual bully.

He has an entire staff to help him bully people, he doesn't need to be that good at it himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The description of the fight makes prince William seem like such a petty and ineffectual bully.

Remember it's a one-sided account, with quite vague descriptions of what he ("Harold") said. Also, seems likely Meghan was in fact rude to the staff, or at least perceived that way. Why couldn't Harry simply agree to speak with her about it? The fight seemed to reflect long-simmering tensions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, I won’t be reading it, listening to his wife’s podcast, or watching their curated reality show/documentary. I have no respect for someone who is selling out their family to be wealthy and famous.

So what's funny is that Harry is complaining that he has been sold out his entire life. To protect his brother. And he took it. But he drew the line once his wife and future child was involved and were being throw to the wolves (the press).

What is most fascinating to me is that William can't seem to see how his children will suffer this same fate if he doesn't work to change things from the inside. Does he want Charlotte and Louis to be fed to the wolves to protect George? Because that will happen. And it will tear them apart the exact same way.

We can only hope William will manage it better than Charles did. He does seem genuinely closer to his kids, which offers some hope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely not. I have no respect for someone trying to work out his issues by trashing his entire family on the world stage knowing they are hamstrung from responding in kind, or else just have more decency. He spent half his life screaming at the press for airing dirty laundry and here he is doing the same thing to everyone else in his family. What a self-absorbed, spoiled hypocrite. His father just lost his mother, and Harry decides now is a great time to pile on. Ugh. He's going to need his father and brother one day, because this marriage to Meghan won't last, but they won't be there because he's firebombing all the bridges. The whole thing is tawdry. Not giving it any attention or money.

Well said, pp.

Agree with you both. Harry is utterly despicable to me. A couple of additional points: the initial reportage regarding the Nazi costume said that William knew in advance - it was a huge story. No contemporaneous story EVER referenced Middleton. The miniseries summary of this story suggested that Harry arranged to educate himself with the London rabbi — the Spare leak does not. The Oprah crying and finger-pointing festivities suggested that Kate was aggressive — the Spare excerpt apparently reveals a truth that neither Meghan nor Harry would understand shows them to be in the wrong, where Meghan mocked Kate, who was not an intimate of hers, as having “baby brain” and thus being disagreeable (Meghan had not yet been pregnant, whereas her soon to be sister in law was on her 3rd with extreme morning sickness).

I truly cannot understand any actual grown-up who would look at what’s actually been said and done by all parties and think Harry seems reasonable. It just doesn’t work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The description of the fight makes prince William seem like such a petty and ineffectual bully.

Remember it's a one-sided account, with quite vague descriptions of what he ("Harold") said. Also, seems likely Meghan was in fact rude to the staff, or at least perceived that way. Why couldn't Harry simply agree to speak with her about it? The fight seemed to reflect long-simmering tensions.

Yep. I have a hard time believing that is how their fight/argument went down.

Whats baffling to me is how quickly into Harry's marriage that this all started. Was there no honeymoon period when everyone was nice to one another or at least pretended to me?

[Anonymous]

I am honestly stunned at all of the things that he has put in this book. It is extremely uncomfortable and sad.