Taylor Swift is awful (and her music isn't even very good)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor's songs are far better and classic than the 100% fake Beyonce hype. Beyonce's "yessssss queen" hype is the fakest astroturfed nonsense I've ever seen.

False equivalence. Beyoncé isn't selling herself as a sensitive singer-songwriter. She makes club music meant to be danced to, meant to move the people who hear it to get on the dance floor. It's a totally different goal than Taylor Swift.

The one thing they have in common is that they are both selling an aesthetic, and I just personally far prefer Beyoncé's. It makes me feel powerful and beautiful. Both women are marketing savants and powerful business women, but for Beyoncé this is actually part of her aesthetic and appeal and that feels authentic to me. Whereas Swift's aesthetic is that of the sensitive girl who is unlucky in love. One, why would I want to identify with that? Even if I could relate to it at times in my life, it's not an identity I want to embrace, it's one I wanted to (and did) move on from. And two, it feels inauthentic because as has been mentioned several times on this thread, Swift isn't just some sad girl who is unlucky in love. Why is all her music about old boyfriends or getting back at people who doubted her when she's actually very much in control? Just the way she always casts herself as the underdog is bizarre given who she actually is and what she has accomplished.

There is something deeply satisfying to me about seeing Beyoncé perform a song about being assertive and in control while being assertive and in control. Meanwhile Swift will perform some sad sack song about how a boy left her for a hotter girl while looking drop dead gorgeous and pouting perfectly lipsticked lips and it's just confusing. Why doesn't she just own her power and authority? Why hide behind the idea that she's a "nerd" or grew up poor (she didn't)? It makes no sense.

I like both Beyonce and Taylor but I appreciate that Taylor writes her own songs. Beyonce is a better performer, but she doesn’t write her music and lip syncs most of her songs during live performances. Still a great show but different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's odd she obsessively curates her life to look perfect and old fashioned, but she's unmarried and childless at nearly age 33. Any child, especially first child, past age 35 is technically a geriatric pregnancy.

Why are you obsessed with her uterus? Maybe she doesn't want kids! My DD is 19 and since she could formulate the thought has said she doesn't think she wants kids. Some people don't. And that's okay.

I don't think Taylor curates her life to be old fashioned. Maybe she just tries to live somewhat simply, and doesn't buy into the idea that the way the Kardashians live life is the best way to live life.

Uh oh someone doesn’t know what words mean. She doesn’t try to live “simply.” She, like PP said, follows an old fashioned and preppy/Southern (and sometimes New England when she feels like it) old money aesthetic. This is obviously different from the Kardashians but not “simple living.” Do you think wealthy people in the Hamptons live simply?

Given this, it’s weird af that she’s unmarried and childless well into her 30’s. The aesthetic she’s striving for doesn’t vibe with her reality and just makes her seem stunted.

??? That’s not her aesthetic.

Her aesthetic absolutely is old money country southern debutante and New England wasp. In either of those spheres, childless and unmarried at 32-33 is weird af.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's odd she obsessively curates her life to look perfect and old fashioned, but she's unmarried and childless at nearly age 33. Any child, especially first child, past age 35 is technically a geriatric pregnancy.

Why are you obsessed with her uterus? Maybe she doesn't want kids! My DD is 19 and since she could formulate the thought has said she doesn't think she wants kids. Some people don't. And that's okay.

I don't think Taylor curates her life to be old fashioned. Maybe she just tries to live somewhat simply, and doesn't buy into the idea that the way the Kardashians live life is the best way to live life.

Uh oh someone doesn’t know what words mean. She doesn’t try to live “simply.” She, like PP said, follows an old fashioned and preppy/Southern (and sometimes New England when she feels like it) old money aesthetic. This is obviously different from the Kardashians but not “simple living.” Do you think wealthy people in the Hamptons live simply?

Given this, it’s weird af that she’s unmarried and childless well into her 30’s. The aesthetic she’s striving for doesn’t vibe with her reality and just makes her seem stunted.

??? That’s not her aesthetic.

Her aesthetic absolutely is old money country southern debutante and New England wasp. In either of those spheres, childless and unmarried at 32-33 is weird af.

Yeah, I don’t see that, but no problem if you do and don’t care for her. Doubt she cares!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taylor's songs are far better and classic than the 100% fake Beyonce hype. Beyonce's "yessssss queen" hype is the fakest astroturfed nonsense I've ever seen.

False equivalence. Beyoncé isn't selling herself as a sensitive singer-songwriter. She makes club music meant to be danced to, meant to move the people who hear it to get on the dance floor. It's a totally different goal than Taylor Swift.

The one thing they have in common is that they are both selling an aesthetic, and I just personally far prefer Beyoncé's. It makes me feel powerful and beautiful. Both women are marketing savants and powerful business women, but for Beyoncé this is actually part of her aesthetic and appeal and that feels authentic to me. Whereas Swift's aesthetic is that of the sensitive girl who is unlucky in love. One, why would I want to identify with that? Even if I could relate to it at times in my life, it's not an identity I want to embrace, it's one I wanted to (and did) move on from. And two, it feels inauthentic because as has been mentioned several times on this thread, Swift isn't just some sad girl who is unlucky in love. Why is all her music about old boyfriends or getting back at people who doubted her when she's actually very much in control? Just the way she always casts herself as the underdog is bizarre given who she actually is and what she has accomplished.

There is something deeply satisfying to me about seeing Beyoncé perform a song about being assertive and in control while being assertive and in control. Meanwhile Swift will perform some sad sack song about how a boy left her for a hotter girl while looking drop dead gorgeous and pouting perfectly lipsticked lips and it's just confusing. Why doesn't she just own her power and authority? Why hide behind the idea that she's a "nerd" or grew up poor (she didn't)? It makes no sense.

I like both Beyonce and Taylor but I appreciate that Taylor writes her own songs. Beyonce is a better performer, but she doesn’t write her music and lip syncs most of her songs during live performances. Still a great show but different.

But, and I really cannot emphasize this enough: Taylor's songs are bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's odd she obsessively curates her life to look perfect and old fashioned, but she's unmarried and childless at nearly age 33. Any child, especially first child, past age 35 is technically a geriatric pregnancy.

Why are you obsessed with her uterus? Maybe she doesn't want kids! My DD is 19 and since she could formulate the thought has said she doesn't think she wants kids. Some people don't. And that's okay.

I don't think Taylor curates her life to be old fashioned. Maybe she just tries to live somewhat simply, and doesn't buy into the idea that the way the Kardashians live life is the best way to live life.

Uh oh someone doesn’t know what words mean. She doesn’t try to live “simply.” She, like PP said, follows an old fashioned and preppy/Southern (and sometimes New England when she feels like it) old money aesthetic. This is obviously different from the Kardashians but not “simple living.” Do you think wealthy people in the Hamptons live simply?

Given this, it’s weird af that she’s unmarried and childless well into her 30’s. The aesthetic she’s striving for doesn’t vibe with her reality and just makes her seem stunted.

??? That’s not her aesthetic.

Her aesthetic absolutely is old money country southern debutante and New England wasp. In either of those spheres, childless and unmarried at 32-33 is weird af.

Yeah, I don’t see that, but no problem if you do and don’t care for her. Doubt she cares!

Given the number of songs she's written about people criticizing her... she might actually care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taylor's songs are far better and classic than the 100% fake Beyonce hype. Beyonce's "yessssss queen" hype is the fakest astroturfed nonsense I've ever seen.

False equivalence. Beyoncé isn't selling herself as a sensitive singer-songwriter. She makes club music meant to be danced to, meant to move the people who hear it to get on the dance floor. It's a totally different goal than Taylor Swift.

The one thing they have in common is that they are both selling an aesthetic, and I just personally far prefer Beyoncé's. It makes me feel powerful and beautiful. Both women are marketing savants and powerful business women, but for Beyoncé this is actually part of her aesthetic and appeal and that feels authentic to me. Whereas Swift's aesthetic is that of the sensitive girl who is unlucky in love. One, why would I want to identify with that? Even if I could relate to it at times in my life, it's not an identity I want to embrace, it's one I wanted to (and did) move on from. And two, it feels inauthentic because as has been mentioned several times on this thread, Swift isn't just some sad girl who is unlucky in love. Why is all her music about old boyfriends or getting back at people who doubted her when she's actually very much in control? Just the way she always casts herself as the underdog is bizarre given who she actually is and what she has accomplished.

There is something deeply satisfying to me about seeing Beyoncé perform a song about being assertive and in control while being assertive and in control. Meanwhile Swift will perform some sad sack song about how a boy left her for a hotter girl while looking drop dead gorgeous and pouting perfectly lipsticked lips and it's just confusing. Why doesn't she just own her power and authority? Why hide behind the idea that she's a "nerd" or grew up poor (she didn't)? It makes no sense.

I like both Beyonce and Taylor but I appreciate that Taylor writes her own songs. Beyonce is a better performer, but she doesn’t write her music and lip syncs most of her songs during live performances. Still a great show but different.

But, and I really cannot emphasize this enough: Taylor's songs are bad.

“Fighting with him was like trying to solve a crossword and realizing there’s no right answer”

What? Crosswords all have right answers. Oh my god, does Taylor think hard crosswords simply don't have right answers at all?! Maybe her lyrics are bad because of her limited vocabulary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to calm down.

+1 You're being too loud.

You need to just stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to calm down.

+1 You're being too loud.

Can you just stop

Like can you just not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to calm down.

+1 You're being too loud.

Can you just stop

Like can you just not

An uncool thing about Taylor Swift is how she wrote this song like she's defending her gay friends from online criticism but it was really just a way to criticize people who don't like her music. Actually a classic Swiftboat maneuver.

[Anonymous]

I used to find her annoying, but her music is catchy, she is pretty talented and now that my teen really likes her, she's not such a terrible role model.

[Anonymous]

I love that someone had to post in website feedback thinking they caught OP sock puppeting. This thread is running the same course of how all the other Taylor threads go. 😂

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taylor's songs are far better and classic than the 100% fake Beyonce hype. Beyonce's "yessssss queen" hype is the fakest astroturfed nonsense I've ever seen.

False equivalence. Beyoncé isn't selling herself as a sensitive singer-songwriter. She makes club music meant to be danced to, meant to move the people who hear it to get on the dance floor. It's a totally different goal than Taylor Swift.

The one thing they have in common is that they are both selling an aesthetic, and I just personally far prefer Beyoncé's. It makes me feel powerful and beautiful. Both women are marketing savants and powerful business women, but for Beyoncé this is actually part of her aesthetic and appeal and that feels authentic to me. Whereas Swift's aesthetic is that of the sensitive girl who is unlucky in love. One, why would I want to identify with that? Even if I could relate to it at times in my life, it's not an identity I want to embrace, it's one I wanted to (and did) move on from. And two, it feels inauthentic because as has been mentioned several times on this thread, Swift isn't just some sad girl who is unlucky in love. Why is all her music about old boyfriends or getting back at people who doubted her when she's actually very much in control? Just the way she always casts herself as the underdog is bizarre given who she actually is and what she has accomplished.

There is something deeply satisfying to me about seeing Beyoncé perform a song about being assertive and in control while being assertive and in control. Meanwhile Swift will perform some sad sack song about how a boy left her for a hotter girl while looking drop dead gorgeous and pouting perfectly lipsticked lips and it's just confusing. Why doesn't she just own her power and authority? Why hide behind the idea that she's a "nerd" or grew up poor (she didn't)? It makes no sense.

I like both Beyonce and Taylor but I appreciate that Taylor writes her own songs. Beyonce is a better performer, but she doesn’t write her music and lip syncs most of her songs during live performances. Still a great show but different.

But, and I really cannot emphasize this enough: Taylor's songs are bad.

I disagree and so does a lot of the public and music industry. But I don’t think every person is going to like the same artists. You don’t enjoy her songs, which doesn’t make you superior in any way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's odd she obsessively curates her life to look perfect and old fashioned, but she's unmarried and childless at nearly age 33. Any child, especially first child, past age 35 is technically a geriatric pregnancy.

Why are you obsessed with her uterus? Maybe she doesn't want kids! My DD is 19 and since she could formulate the thought has said she doesn't think she wants kids. Some people don't. And that's okay.

I don't think Taylor curates her life to be old fashioned. Maybe she just tries to live somewhat simply, and doesn't buy into the idea that the way the Kardashians live life is the best way to live life.

Uh oh someone doesn’t know what words mean. She doesn’t try to live “simply.” She, like PP said, follows an old fashioned and preppy/Southern (and sometimes New England when she feels like it) old money aesthetic. This is obviously different from the Kardashians but not “simple living.” Do you think wealthy people in the Hamptons live simply?

Given this, it’s weird af that she’s unmarried and childless well into her 30’s. The aesthetic she’s striving for doesn’t vibe with her reality and just makes her seem stunted.

??? That’s not her aesthetic.

Her aesthetic absolutely is old money country southern debutante and New England wasp. In either of those spheres, childless and unmarried at 32-33 is weird af.

Yeah, I don’t see that, but no problem if you do and don’t care for her. Doubt she cares!

Given the number of songs she's written about people criticizing her... she might actually care.

She writes about online trolls and people attacking her in the press. But a DCUM rando who simply likes different music? Haven’t heard that song.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's odd she obsessively curates her life to look perfect and old fashioned, but she's unmarried and childless at nearly age 33. Any child, especially first child, past age 35 is technically a geriatric pregnancy.

Why are you obsessed with her uterus? Maybe she doesn't want kids! My DD is 19 and since she could formulate the thought has said she doesn't think she wants kids. Some people don't. And that's okay.

I don't think Taylor curates her life to be old fashioned. Maybe she just tries to live somewhat simply, and doesn't buy into the idea that the way the Kardashians live life is the best way to live life.

Uh oh someone doesn’t know what words mean. She doesn’t try to live “simply.” She, like PP said, follows an old fashioned and preppy/Southern (and sometimes New England when she feels like it) old money aesthetic. This is obviously different from the Kardashians but not “simple living.” Do you think wealthy people in the Hamptons live simply?

Given this, it’s weird af that she’s unmarried and childless well into her 30’s. The aesthetic she’s striving for doesn’t vibe with her reality and just makes her seem stunted.

??? That’s not her aesthetic.

Her aesthetic absolutely is old money country southern debutante and New England wasp. In either of those spheres, childless and unmarried at 32-33 is weird af.

Yeah, I don’t see that, but no problem if you do and don’t care for her. Doubt she cares!

Given the number of songs she's written about people criticizing her... she might actually care.

She writes about online trolls and people attacking her in the press. But a DCUM rando who simply likes different music? Haven’t heard that song.

OP thinks he is as important as the press. It is a little sad.

[Anonymous]

So much internalized misogyny in this thread.