Why do Atheists care? Here is one scary reason:

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Anonymous wrote:This article isn’t troubling. 61% of Republicans said they favored the government declaring the US a Christian nation, and most of those were older Americans. Most under 40 disagreed. So, you can relax.

Because the old folks will die soon, right? Still, it's scary, because these are the people who studied Civics in public school where they learned that the US is not a Christian nation.

Well, they learned that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; but they also learned that the US was founded on Judeo Christian values, and most of the people who settled the US were Christian.

Nope.

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/03/america-was-not-founded-as-a-christian-country-based-on-judeo-christian-values_partner/

https://bigthink.com/the-present/why-americas-christian-foundation-is-a-myth/

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/american-history/

the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

The biggest clue it is not founded on Judeo-Christian values? The Bible is not mentioned once in the constitution. I wonder why that is...

OP said "Judeo-Christian values" not the religions themselves. If you don't know that there is a difference this conversation might be over your head.

Lol. How ironic that the guy who ad hominems that something is "over your head" doesn't understand what "United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" means.

Also noticed no one answered when I asked what specific founding values didn't exist before Judaism or Christianity.

DP. That one’s easy, you must have little self-awareness to think anybody would want to engage with a troll in an OT gotcha game. You’re quite the little bean counter, aren’t you, taking threads like this as scripture and analyzing them for everything that’s said or, wow, not said. As if anybody cares about this thread as much as you do.

Translated as: "I can't respond without failure, so here are a bunch of ad hominems".

ps - If you can't answer a "gotcha" it's because you've been "got" and your point is WRONG. Those with substantive responses are eager to provide them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This article isn’t troubling. 61% of Republicans said they favored the government declaring the US a Christian nation, and most of those were older Americans. Most under 40 disagreed. So, you can relax.

Because the old folks will die soon, right? Still, it's scary, because these are the people who studied Civics in public school where they learned that the US is not a Christian nation.

Well, they learned that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; but they also learned that the US was founded on Judeo Christian values, and most of the people who settled the US were Christian.

Nope.

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/03/america-was-not-founded-as-a-christian-country-based-on-judeo-christian-values_partner/

https://bigthink.com/the-present/why-americas-christian-foundation-is-a-myth/

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/american-history/

the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

The biggest clue it is not founded on Judeo-Christian values? The Bible is not mentioned once in the constitution. I wonder why that is...

OP said "Judeo-Christian values" not the religions themselves. If you don't know that there is a difference this conversation might be over your head.

Lol. How ironic that the guy who ad hominems that something is "over your head" doesn't understand what "United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" means.

Also noticed no one answered when I asked what specific founding values didn't exist before Judaism or Christianity.

DP. That one’s easy, you must have little self-awareness to think anybody would want to engage with a troll in an OT gotcha game. You’re quite the little bean counter, aren’t you, taking threads like this as scripture and analyzing them for everything that’s said or, wow, not said. As if anybody cares about this thread as much as you do.

Translated as: "I can't respond without failure, so here are a bunch of ad hominems".

ps - If you can't answer a "gotcha" it's because you've been "got" and your point is WRONG. Those with substantive responses are eager to provide them.

LOL. Keep telling yourself you’ve “won” an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with your ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which you’re desperately trying to make happen. You’re funny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This article isn’t troubling. 61% of Republicans said they favored the government declaring the US a Christian nation, and most of those were older Americans. Most under 40 disagreed. So, you can relax.

Because the old folks will die soon, right? Still, it's scary, because these are the people who studied Civics in public school where they learned that the US is not a Christian nation.

Well, they learned that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; but they also learned that the US was founded on Judeo Christian values, and most of the people who settled the US were Christian.

Nope.

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/03/america-was-not-founded-as-a-christian-country-based-on-judeo-christian-values_partner/

https://bigthink.com/the-present/why-americas-christian-foundation-is-a-myth/

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/american-history/

the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

The biggest clue it is not founded on Judeo-Christian values? The Bible is not mentioned once in the constitution. I wonder why that is...

OP said "Judeo-Christian values" not the religions themselves. If you don't know that there is a difference this conversation might be over your head.

Lol. How ironic that the guy who ad hominems that something is "over your head" doesn't understand what "United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" means.

Also noticed no one answered when I asked what specific founding values didn't exist before Judaism or Christianity.

DP. That one’s easy, you must have little self-awareness to think anybody would want to engage with a troll in an OT gotcha game. You’re quite the little bean counter, aren’t you, taking threads like this as scripture and analyzing them for everything that’s said or, wow, not said. As if anybody cares about this thread as much as you do.

Translated as: "I can't respond without failure, so here are a bunch of ad hominems".

ps - If you can't answer a "gotcha" it's because you've been "got" and your point is WRONG. Those with substantive responses are eager to provide them.

LOL. Keep telling yourself you’ve “won” an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with your ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which you’re desperately trying to make happen. You’re funny.

Translation: “I have no substantive response.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This article isn’t troubling. 61% of Republicans said they favored the government declaring the US a Christian nation, and most of those were older Americans. Most under 40 disagreed. So, you can relax.

Because the old folks will die soon, right? Still, it's scary, because these are the people who studied Civics in public school where they learned that the US is not a Christian nation.

Well, they learned that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; but they also learned that the US was founded on Judeo Christian values, and most of the people who settled the US were Christian.

Nope.

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/03/america-was-not-founded-as-a-christian-country-based-on-judeo-christian-values_partner/

https://bigthink.com/the-present/why-americas-christian-foundation-is-a-myth/

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/american-history/

the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

The biggest clue it is not founded on Judeo-Christian values? The Bible is not mentioned once in the constitution. I wonder why that is...

OP said "Judeo-Christian values" not the religions themselves. If you don't know that there is a difference this conversation might be over your head.

Lol. How ironic that the guy who ad hominems that something is "over your head" doesn't understand what "United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" means.

Also noticed no one answered when I asked what specific founding values didn't exist before Judaism or Christianity.

DP. That one’s easy, you must have little self-awareness to think anybody would want to engage with a troll in an OT gotcha game. You’re quite the little bean counter, aren’t you, taking threads like this as scripture and analyzing them for everything that’s said or, wow, not said. As if anybody cares about this thread as much as you do.

Translated as: "I can't respond without failure, so here are a bunch of ad hominems".

ps - If you can't answer a "gotcha" it's because you've been "got" and your point is WRONG. Those with substantive responses are eager to provide them.

LOL. Keep telling yourself you’ve “won” an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with your ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which you’re desperately trying to make happen. You’re funny.

Translation: “I have no substantive response.”

Translation: pp is desperate to continue an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with their ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which they’re desperately trying to make happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This article isn’t troubling. 61% of Republicans said they favored the government declaring the US a Christian nation, and most of those were older Americans. Most under 40 disagreed. So, you can relax.

Because the old folks will die soon, right? Still, it's scary, because these are the people who studied Civics in public school where they learned that the US is not a Christian nation.

Well, they learned that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; but they also learned that the US was founded on Judeo Christian values, and most of the people who settled the US were Christian.

Nope.

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/03/america-was-not-founded-as-a-christian-country-based-on-judeo-christian-values_partner/

https://bigthink.com/the-present/why-americas-christian-foundation-is-a-myth/

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/american-history/

the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

The biggest clue it is not founded on Judeo-Christian values? The Bible is not mentioned once in the constitution. I wonder why that is...

OP said "Judeo-Christian values" not the religions themselves. If you don't know that there is a difference this conversation might be over your head.

Lol. How ironic that the guy who ad hominems that something is "over your head" doesn't understand what "United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" means.

Also noticed no one answered when I asked what specific founding values didn't exist before Judaism or Christianity.

DP. That one’s easy, you must have little self-awareness to think anybody would want to engage with a troll in an OT gotcha game. You’re quite the little bean counter, aren’t you, taking threads like this as scripture and analyzing them for everything that’s said or, wow, not said. As if anybody cares about this thread as much as you do.

Translated as: "I can't respond without failure, so here are a bunch of ad hominems".

ps - If you can't answer a "gotcha" it's because you've been "got" and your point is WRONG. Those with substantive responses are eager to provide them.

LOL. Keep telling yourself you’ve “won” an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with your ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which you’re desperately trying to make happen. You’re funny.

Translation: “I have no substantive response.”

Translation: pp is desperate to continue an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with their ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which they’re desperately trying to make happen.

You nailed the problem here. That was my post you’re quoting (“LOL. Keep telling yourself…) and I’ve stopped engaging with the “fight me” atheist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This article isn’t troubling. 61% of Republicans said they favored the government declaring the US a Christian nation, and most of those were older Americans. Most under 40 disagreed. So, you can relax.

Because the old folks will die soon, right? Still, it's scary, because these are the people who studied Civics in public school where they learned that the US is not a Christian nation.

Well, they learned that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; but they also learned that the US was founded on Judeo Christian values, and most of the people who settled the US were Christian.

Nope.

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/03/america-was-not-founded-as-a-christian-country-based-on-judeo-christian-values_partner/

https://bigthink.com/the-present/why-americas-christian-foundation-is-a-myth/

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/american-history/

the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

The biggest clue it is not founded on Judeo-Christian values? The Bible is not mentioned once in the constitution. I wonder why that is...

OP said "Judeo-Christian values" not the religions themselves. If you don't know that there is a difference this conversation might be over your head.

Lol. How ironic that the guy who ad hominems that something is "over your head" doesn't understand what "United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" means.

Also noticed no one answered when I asked what specific founding values didn't exist before Judaism or Christianity.

DP. That one’s easy, you must have little self-awareness to think anybody would want to engage with a troll in an OT gotcha game. You’re quite the little bean counter, aren’t you, taking threads like this as scripture and analyzing them for everything that’s said or, wow, not said. As if anybody cares about this thread as much as you do.

Translated as: "I can't respond without failure, so here are a bunch of ad hominems".

ps - If you can't answer a "gotcha" it's because you've been "got" and your point is WRONG. Those with substantive responses are eager to provide them.

LOL. Keep telling yourself you’ve “won” an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with your ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which you’re desperately trying to make happen. You’re funny.

Translation: “I have no substantive response.”

Translation: pp is desperate to continue an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with their ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which they’re desperately trying to make happen.

You nailed the problem here. That was my post you’re quoting (“LOL. Keep telling yourself…) and I’ve stopped engaging with the “fight me” atheist.

It was directed at so-called Christian poster. Good bye

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This article isn’t troubling. 61% of Republicans said they favored the government declaring the US a Christian nation, and most of those were older Americans. Most under 40 disagreed. So, you can relax.

Because the old folks will die soon, right? Still, it's scary, because these are the people who studied Civics in public school where they learned that the US is not a Christian nation.

Well, they learned that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; but they also learned that the US was founded on Judeo Christian values, and most of the people who settled the US were Christian.

Nope.

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/03/america-was-not-founded-as-a-christian-country-based-on-judeo-christian-values_partner/

https://bigthink.com/the-present/why-americas-christian-foundation-is-a-myth/

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/american-history/

the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

The biggest clue it is not founded on Judeo-Christian values? The Bible is not mentioned once in the constitution. I wonder why that is...

OP said "Judeo-Christian values" not the religions themselves. If you don't know that there is a difference this conversation might be over your head.

Lol. How ironic that the guy who ad hominems that something is "over your head" doesn't understand what "United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" means.

Also noticed no one answered when I asked what specific founding values didn't exist before Judaism or Christianity.

DP. That one’s easy, you must have little self-awareness to think anybody would want to engage with a troll in an OT gotcha game. You’re quite the little bean counter, aren’t you, taking threads like this as scripture and analyzing them for everything that’s said or, wow, not said. As if anybody cares about this thread as much as you do.

Translated as: "I can't respond without failure, so here are a bunch of ad hominems".

ps - If you can't answer a "gotcha" it's because you've been "got" and your point is WRONG. Those with substantive responses are eager to provide them.

LOL. Keep telling yourself you’ve “won” an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with your ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which you’re desperately trying to make happen. You’re funny.

Translation: “I have no substantive response.”

Translation: pp is desperate to continue an online debate with internet strangers who can’t be bothered to deal with their ignorance and bigotry on a topic that isn’t even part of the thread but which they’re desperately trying to make happen.

You nailed the problem here. That was my post you’re quoting (“LOL. Keep telling yourself…) and I’ve stopped engaging with the “fight me” atheist.

It was directed at so-called Christian poster. Good bye

Haha. Read it again, it was directed at you.

[Anonymous]

dcum atheists can be summed up thusly: online, and miserable.

Atheists have entire countries without religion they can choose from, to move to…one atheist said they have a country to move to, but won’t name said country. Wonder why?

If America and their superstitions are so very ignorant and make life so very uncomfortable, move to an atheist paradise!

[Anonymous]

Wow, what a conspiracy theory - a political party is scheming to make the U.S. an official Christian nation without separation of church + state. Wow, this one can go in the hotch pot with aliens exist.

[Anonymous]

Q: What religious expression is protected by law?

A: The First Amendment to the Constitution protects Americans’ right to religious freedom through two provisions: the Establishment of Religion clause and the Free-Exercise clause.

This first Clause basically prevents the government from preferring a particular house of worship or religion or proclaiming a particular religion to be the “official” religion. It also prevents the government from legally declaring any religion to be false, even if the majority of people don’t believe in it.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/projects-and-initiatives/civil-rights-civics-institute/religiousfreedom/

The government can’t say anyone’s religion is “false.” I don’t know what dcum atheists are on about, saying Americans have to give up their religion to make America better. Who is sitting around worrying (without any cause, excuse, or reason) that Americans are worshiping the “wrong way?” dcum atheists. none of your business. find a hobby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whether you are religious or not you should listen to Christopher Hitchens take on this subject. Fascinating and scary. He called it just like it's happening. His main goal in his later life was to prevent anyone's beliefs from intruding in ANY way on anyone else, including running of a country. He also spoke about Thomas Jefferson's reason for wanting separation of church and state which most people think is because Thomas Jefferson was religious and it was the opposite.


I think I found out about this book on DCUM, but "The United States of Hobby Lobby" also goes into the religious right's plans for this country and how many people are working behind the scenes to make this a Christian nation.

Hitchens described himself as an anti-theist, who saw all religions as false, harmful and authoritarian.[30]

30] Hitchens, Christopher (2005). Letters to a Young Contrarian. Basic Books. pp. 55, 57. ISBN 0465030335. “I am [not a] part of the generalised agnosticism of our culture. I am not even an atheist so much as I am an anti-theist... all religions are versions of the same untruth... the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful... cradle-to-grave divine supervision; a permanent surveillance and monitoring... I am [not] privy to the secrets of the universe or its creator... even [the best of the theisms] are complicit in this quiet and irrational authoritarianism.“

Hitchens was not an atheist, he was an anti-theist.

His belief that all religion is bad and harmful is not right for America and our laws and freedoms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Q: What religious expression is protected by law?

A: The First Amendment to the Constitution protects Americans’ right to religious freedom through two provisions: the Establishment of Religion clause and the Free-Exercise clause.

This first Clause basically prevents the government from preferring a particular house of worship or religion or proclaiming a particular religion to be the “official” religion. It also prevents the government from legally declaring any religion to be false, even if the majority of people don’t believe in it.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/projects-and-initiatives/civil-rights-civics-institute/religiousfreedom/

The government can’t say anyone’s religion is “false.” I don’t know what dcum atheists are on about, saying Americans have to give up their religion to make America better. Who is sitting around worrying (without any cause, excuse, or reason) that Americans are worshiping the “wrong way?” dcum atheists. none of your business. find a hobby.

Get out of here with your reasoned argument. This thread is for trashing all religion. Because…ummm….DCUM’s atheists are miserable and bored, like someone said upthread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:dcum atheists can be summed up thusly: online, and miserable.

Atheists have entire countries without religion they can choose from, to move to…one atheist said they have a country to move to, but won’t name said country. Wonder why?

If America and their superstitions are so very ignorant and make life so very uncomfortable, move to an atheist paradise!

The US is not a Christian country. Get over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Q: What religious expression is protected by law?

A: The First Amendment to the Constitution protects Americans’ right to religious freedom through two provisions: the Establishment of Religion clause and the Free-Exercise clause.

This first Clause basically prevents the government from preferring a particular house of worship or religion or proclaiming a particular religion to be the “official” religion. It also prevents the government from legally declaring any religion to be false, even if the majority of people don’t believe in it.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/projects-and-initiatives/civil-rights-civics-institute/religiousfreedom/

The government can’t say anyone’s religion is “false.” I don’t know what dcum atheists are on about, saying Americans have to give up their religion to make America better. Who is sitting around worrying (without any cause, excuse, or reason) that Americans are worshiping the “wrong way?” dcum atheists. none of your business. find a hobby.

You should share this with the Christofacists who are trying to make the US a “Christian country”.
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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:dcum atheists can be summed up thusly: online, and miserable.

Atheists have entire countries without religion they can choose from, to move to…one atheist said they have a country to move to, but won’t name said country. Wonder why?

If America and their superstitions are so very ignorant and make life so very uncomfortable, move to an atheist paradise!

The US is not a Christian country. Get over it.

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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/01/04/faith-on-the-hill-2021/

Much has been written about President Joe Biden’s Catholic faith. He often speaks of his religious convictions and quotes the Bible, and he attends Mass regularly.

The U.S. Constitution famously prohibits any religious test or requirement for public office. Still, almost all of the nation’s presidents have been Christians and many have been Episcopalians or Presbyterians, with most of the rest belonging to other prominent Protestant denominations.


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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/01/20/biden-only-second-catholic-president-but-nearly-all-have-been-christians-2/

America does not have an official, state religion, but most of our elected officials are Christian.