Britney Griner deal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Britney Griner is the perfect pawn, she’s black, a lesbian and famous.

Russia probably had this in the works for months prior to her arrival.

Famous? Maybe 12 people has heard of her before this nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

And Britney Griner is not Russian. If a country wants to extend special privileges to it's citizens that it does no afford non citizens, that is their right. I wish the US would do more of that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Britney Griner is the perfect pawn, she’s black, a lesbian and famous.

Russia probably had this in the works for months prior to her arrival.

Famous? Maybe 12 people has heard of her before this nonsense.

+1

If she were so famous the WNBA would be more popular, sell more tickets and she wouldn’t need to play in the off season. And therefore never would have been in Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

And Britney Griner is not Russian. If a country wants to extend special privileges to it's citizens that it does no afford non citizens, that is their right. I wish the US would do more of that.

Like anything coming out of Russia can be trusted/believed!

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

She admitted to actually leaving them in her luggage, so there's that.

An incarcerated person held by autocrats can be made to admit to anything.

The fact that anyone would believe the Russian government over a fellow American just goes to show how unpatriotic many of you scumbags are.

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

And Britney Griner is not Russian. If a country wants to extend special privileges to it's citizens that it does no afford non citizens, that is their right. I wish the US would do more of that.

Like anything coming out of Russia can be trusted/believed!

I agree. That's why I don't go there. Or North Korea. Or Iran. And other places too. People who do that know the risks they are taking, the US should not intervene.

[Anonymous]

Instead of talking about Griner, you should google how tough Russian drug laws are. They HATE drugs. It is like the 80s when the US had the drug war. Also, weed is really stigmatized. Other countries values and sentences are not the same as ours….if you are old enough….do you remember that kid who got caned…. Other countries are horrified by our justice system where you are divided by race or rape is common in male prison.

That oil was hers, she just never got caught..it is sad that we are making this a political issue. The question is….was that oil hers? Is what she did illegal? Same with the North Koran kid…1, no one should be dumb enough to go to a country where the US has no diplomatic ties. 2. Don’t violate the law! No matter how small in a country that has horrible relations with the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instead of talking about Griner, you should google how tough Russian drug laws are. They HATE drugs. It is like the 80s when the US had the drug war. Also, weed is really stigmatized. Other countries values and sentences are not the same as ours….if you are old enough….do you remember that kid who got caned…. Other countries are horrified by our justice system where you are divided by race or rape is common in male prison.

That oil was hers, she just never got caught..it is sad that we are making this a political issue. The question is….was that oil hers? Is what she did illegal? Same with the North Koran kid…1, no one should be dumb enough to go to a country where the US has no diplomatic ties. 2. Don’t violate the law! No matter how small in a country that has horrible relations with the US.

The US had fairly normal relations with Russia before the Ukrainian invasion. Thousands of Americans visited daily without issue. When Putin started his war of choice, sh#t went nuts

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of talking about Griner, you should google how tough Russian drug laws are. They HATE drugs. It is like the 80s when the US had the drug war. Also, weed is really stigmatized. Other countries values and sentences are not the same as ours….if you are old enough….do you remember that kid who got caned…. Other countries are horrified by our justice system where you are divided by race or rape is common in male prison.

That oil was hers, she just never got caught..it is sad that we are making this a political issue. The question is….was that oil hers? Is what she did illegal? Same with the North Koran kid…1, no one should be dumb enough to go to a country where the US has no diplomatic ties. 2. Don’t violate the law! No matter how small in a country that has horrible relations with the US.

Michael Fay in Singapore. That was in the early 90s. Many Americans actually SUPPORTED him being caned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Fay

Prisons that "divide by race" are actually segregating by gang affiliation for safety reasons. Prison gang membership is along racial lines so that is what they are "dividing." In fact, there have been cases where corrupt guards have intentionally "integrated" to watch the blood bath for entertainment. https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2020/apr/1/california-prison-officials-put-hold-policy-led-gladiator-fights/

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

She admitted to actually leaving them in her luggage, so there's that.

An incarcerated person held by autocrats can be made to admit to anything.

The fact that anyone would believe the Russian government over a fellow American just goes to show how unpatriotic many of you scumbags are.

This all day. Why on earth would anyone believe she is actually guilty?

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

She admitted to actually leaving them in her luggage, so there's that.

An incarcerated person held by autocrats can be made to admit to anything.

The fact that anyone would believe the Russian government over a fellow American just goes to show how unpatriotic many of you scumbags are.

This all day. Why on earth would anyone believe she is actually guilty?

Because she admitted to accidentally leaving the items in her luggage.
Have you heard ANYONE in her camp claiming she has been set up? Have you heard ANYONE claim that the items were not actually hers?

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

She admitted to actually leaving them in her luggage, so there's that.

An incarcerated person held by autocrats can be made to admit to anything.

The fact that anyone would believe the Russian government over a fellow American just goes to show how unpatriotic many of you scumbags are.

This all day. Why on earth would anyone believe she is actually guilty?

Because she admitted to accidentally leaving the items in her luggage.
Have you heard ANYONE in her camp claiming she has been set up? Have you heard ANYONE claim that the items were not actually hers?

You don’t know how any of this works you naive dumbf#ck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

She admitted to actually leaving them in her luggage, so there's that.

An incarcerated person held by autocrats can be made to admit to anything.

The fact that anyone would believe the Russian government over a fellow American just goes to show how unpatriotic many of you scumbags are.

This all day. Why on earth would anyone believe she is actually guilty?

Because she admitted to accidentally leaving the items in her luggage.
Have you heard ANYONE in her camp claiming she has been set up? Have you heard ANYONE claim that the items were not actually hers?

I’m trying to imagine why you are so deeply stupid, but truly there isn’t a reasonable excuse.
THEY AREN’T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING TO PROVOKE RUSSIA. They have to play nice in order to get her out.
Honestly I’m embarrassed for you.

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

She admitted to actually leaving them in her luggage, so there's that.

An incarcerated person held by autocrats can be made to admit to anything.

The fact that anyone would believe the Russian government over a fellow American just goes to show how unpatriotic many of you scumbags are.

This all day. Why on earth would anyone believe she is actually guilty?

Because she admitted to accidentally leaving the items in her luggage.
Have you heard ANYONE in her camp claiming she has been set up? Have you heard ANYONE claim that the items were not actually hers?

I’m trying to imagine why you are so deeply stupid, but truly there isn’t a reasonable excuse.
THEY AREN’T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING TO PROVOKE RUSSIA. They have to play nice in order to get her out.
Honestly I’m embarrassed for you.

And, it seems to be working so well for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People actually think Griner brought cannibis vape cartridges into Russia? I think the odds she actually did that are pretty low. She's been working in Russia long enough to know you don't take controlled substances with you. Don't forget the timing of her arrest. Her (carefully planned with her lawyer) defense is that she never intended to pack it and in fact still does not know how it got in her luggage. She cannot outright deny doing it, because Russia has a 99% conviction rate and the only hope she has of not getting sentenced to 10+ years in prison is by pleading guilty. Her statement allows for the possibility that she did it and doesn't accuse anyone of planting it in her luggage, but definitely leaves that option open for how it got there.

Definitely possible she didn't, just like I don't think Warmbier took down the banner. But that (getting falsely accused of crimes with little/no recourse) is a risk you take when you go to countries like N. Korea and Russia. When you willingly do things you know have a huge risk, the US government should not make huge sacrifices to bail you out.

I think it's entirely possible she did. But so what? If a Russian national was caught in possession of that quantity they WOULD NOT BE JAILED. They would have had to appear and pay a fine. This whole thing is trumped up and political and everyone, EVERYONE needs to be calling it out for what it is - callous and illegitimate gamesmanship by Russia and shaming Russia for it.

She admitted to actually leaving them in her luggage, so there's that.

An incarcerated person held by autocrats can be made to admit to anything.

The fact that anyone would believe the Russian government over a fellow American just goes to show how unpatriotic many of you scumbags are.

This all day. Why on earth would anyone believe she is actually guilty?

Because she admitted to accidentally leaving the items in her luggage.
Have you heard ANYONE in her camp claiming she has been set up? Have you heard ANYONE claim that the items were not actually hers?

You don’t know how any of this works you naive dumbf#ck.

She's trying to get out of Russian jail, her accusing them of anything is not going to accomplish this goal. Her family would also be aware of this. What she's actually said appears tailored to thread the needle she needs to thread - admit guilt (the only way to receive a lighter sentence; this is why they have a 99% conviction rate), but say it was an accident and beg for leniency. What really happened is truly anyone's guess. But I found it very hard to believe Russia just so happened to catch her, a public figure (I certainly knew who she was and I don't follow the WNBA) doing something that dumb, right as US-Russia relations imploded.