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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.

Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.

And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.

Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.

While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.

Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.

Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.

Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.

You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.

Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses

You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!

For real- cue all the criticisms of other justices who retired “early” rather than serving out their lifetime appointment. I think there should be term limits however.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.

Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.

And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.

Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.

While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.

Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.

I appreciate that you sound like a kind person, but I’m making the “oh honey” face at you right now.

Roberts wanted it this way. It was six activist judges, bought for by dark money that Roberts okayed the continued spending of.

Republicans kept voting for this.

I think RBG was a bit stupid in not retiring, but what if she felt great up until Scalia died and then realized she couldn’t do anything but white knuckle it through the Trumpenvolk years? Republicans voted for Trump despite the truth about him being public.

I too am a lifelong Democrat, a Wellstone liberal FWIW. I’m a SAHM. I’m not some flaming liberal. But I am sick of trying to convince people that women are people, too. Having to cajole people to understand that women deserve bodily autonomy and the same rights that men are granted isn’t a fight I want to keep having with people who support the GOP no matter what they do.

If you are a Wellstone liberal, you are basically a flaming liberal

NP - you said what I was thinking reading through that

I loved that crazy little liberal dude! Such a damn shame when he died

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Anonymous wrote:we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin

This can apply to aborted babies as well

A mass of cells is not a baby or a person.

You realize you're a mass of cells, even at your age?

lol true!

Except that my clump of cells can breathe oxygen from the air.

And my lump of cells can live as a person outside of my mother’s body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have tried to be understanding toward my R friends and I can't any longer. I'm done being nice and trying to "see their side." I'm over it. The Republican party is the party of MAGA and I'm done trying to separate my R friends from the MAGAs. They're under your tent and you can no longer all yourself a Republican, yet say, but well I'm not MAGA. sorry can't have it both ways. I just don't know how to handle my R friends moving forward. In the past, I would reconcile it with we can agree to disagree and that was hard enough on issues like BLM and vaccines. Now I just cannot make any more exceptions after Roe.We don't even talk politics, but just knowing what they support makes my blood boil. Some of them are single issue votes (e.g., Israel) and that angers me even more because they choose this party for one issue only without looking at the bigger picture. I'm just going to have to find a way to still be friends and look for the positives, but I just cannot separate them from the MAGAs--they are the MAGAs whether they wear the red hat or not. ugh.

Whine Whine Whine

PS, OP. They are done with you, too.

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Anonymous wrote:we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin

This can apply to aborted babies as well

A mass of cells is not a baby or a person.

You realize you're a mass of cells, even at your age?

lol true!

Except that my clump of cells can breathe oxygen from the air.

Doesn’t make you special. When people reach their 50s we ought to stop supporting their health care so we can support the younger people. We’re all fertilizer anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin

This can apply to aborted babies as well

A mass of cells is not a baby or a person.

You realize you're a mass of cells, even at your age?

lol true!

Except that my clump of cells can breathe oxygen from the air.

And my lump of cells can live as a person outside of my mother’s body.

If you start needing artificial means to do those things (pacemaker, oxygen tank, etc.) you will be on par with the fetuses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have tried to be understanding toward my R friends and I can't any longer. I'm done being nice and trying to "see their side." I'm over it. The Republican party is the party of MAGA and I'm done trying to separate my R friends from the MAGAs. They're under your tent and you can no longer all yourself a Republican, yet say, but well I'm not MAGA. sorry can't have it both ways. I just don't know how to handle my R friends moving forward. In the past, I would reconcile it with we can agree to disagree and that was hard enough on issues like BLM and vaccines. Now I just cannot make any more exceptions after Roe.We don't even talk politics, but just knowing what they support makes my blood boil. Some of them are single issue votes (e.g., Israel) and that angers me even more because they choose this party for one issue only without looking at the bigger picture. I'm just going to have to find a way to still be friends and look for the positives, but I just cannot separate them from the MAGAs--they are the MAGAs whether they wear the red hat or not. ugh.

Whine Whine Whine

PS, OP. They are done with you, too.

Typical GOP response. "If you have a legitimate criticism of our disregard for the lives of anyone but ourselves, rather than engage in self-reflection, we will call you names like snowflake and whiner."

You have no counter argument, because you are morally bankrupt. And you were "done" with anyone who wasn't in your inner circle already. We all saw that and see it. Our whole country is paying for your selfishness.

Disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin

This can apply to aborted babies as well

A mass of cells is not a baby or a person.

You realize you're a mass of cells, even at your age?

lol true!

Except that my clump of cells can breathe oxygen from the air.

And my lump of cells can live as a person outside of my mother’s body.

If you start needing artificial means to do those things (pacemaker, oxygen tank, etc.) you will be on par with the fetuses.

Yes, no medical care for the members of the GOP. It interferes with God's will for them and God's desire that life be all about suffering.


Even typing that as complete sarcasm makes my skin crawl.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have tried to be understanding toward my R friends and I can't any longer. I'm done being nice and trying to "see their side." I'm over it. The Republican party is the party of MAGA and I'm done trying to separate my R friends from the MAGAs. They're under your tent and you can no longer all yourself a Republican, yet say, but well I'm not MAGA. sorry can't have it both ways. I just don't know how to handle my R friends moving forward. In the past, I would reconcile it with we can agree to disagree and that was hard enough on issues like BLM and vaccines. Now I just cannot make any more exceptions after Roe.We don't even talk politics, but just knowing what they support makes my blood boil. Some of them are single issue votes (e.g., Israel) and that angers me even more because they choose this party for one issue only without looking at the bigger picture. I'm just going to have to find a way to still be friends and look for the positives, but I just cannot separate them from the MAGAs--they are the MAGAs whether they wear the red hat or not. ugh.

Whine Whine Whine

PS, OP. They are done with you, too.

OP here--okay, why do you keep saying this? What exactly are they done with? They view me as their safe political space where they can share their insane theories with no fear of backlash from me and I'm no longer going to allow it and as I said before, if you want to call yourself a Republican then you need to own the MAGA platform because you party has been hijacked by MAGAs unless you as voters decide to reject them and get your party back to what you like to think of as moderate or fiscally conservative or whatever fantasy you've cooked up in your heads that your party is or once was. Until then, you are the MAGAs and you're the party of hatred, racism, and right-wing extremism, and let's not forget treason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.

Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.

And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.

Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.

While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.

Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.

I appreciate that you sound like a kind person, but I’m making the “oh honey” face at you right now.

Roberts wanted it this way. It was six activist judges, bought for by dark money that Roberts okayed the continued spending of.

Republicans kept voting for this.

I think RBG was a bit stupid in not retiring, but what if she felt great up until Scalia died and then realized she couldn’t do anything but white knuckle it through the Trumpenvolk years? Republicans voted for Trump despite the truth about him being public.

I too am a lifelong Democrat, a Wellstone liberal FWIW. I’m a SAHM. I’m not some flaming liberal. But I am sick of trying to convince people that women are people, too. Having to cajole people to understand that women deserve bodily autonomy and the same rights that men are granted isn’t a fight I want to keep having with people who support the GOP no matter what they do.

If you are a Wellstone liberal, you are basically a flaming liberal

Not really. He was pretty sensible and even his vote against the Iraq War has been shown to have been the right one. We’d be a much better country if Paul Wellstone was the senate majority leader instead of Colonel Cluck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have tried to be understanding toward my R friends and I can't any longer. I'm done being nice and trying to "see their side." I'm over it. The Republican party is the party of MAGA and I'm done trying to separate my R friends from the MAGAs. They're under your tent and you can no longer all yourself a Republican, yet say, but well I'm not MAGA. sorry can't have it both ways. I just don't know how to handle my R friends moving forward. In the past, I would reconcile it with we can agree to disagree and that was hard enough on issues like BLM and vaccines. Now I just cannot make any more exceptions after Roe.We don't even talk politics, but just knowing what they support makes my blood boil. Some of them are single issue votes (e.g., Israel) and that angers me even more because they choose this party for one issue only without looking at the bigger picture. I'm just going to have to find a way to still be friends and look for the positives, but I just cannot separate them from the MAGAs--they are the MAGAs whether they wear the red hat or not. ugh.

Whine Whine Whine

PS, OP. They are done with you, too.

OP here--okay, why do you keep saying this? What exactly are they done with? They view me as their safe political space where they can share their insane theories with no fear of backlash from me and I'm no longer going to allow it and as I said before, if you want to call yourself a Republican then you need to own the MAGA platform because you party has been hijacked by MAGAs unless you as voters decide to reject them and get your party back to what you like to think of as moderate or fiscally conservative or whatever fantasy you've cooked up in your heads that your party is or once was. Until then, you are the MAGAs and you're the party of hatred, racism, and right-wing extremism, and let's not forget treason.

Hey OP, DP here (pro choice normal person, not crazy forced birther) and I didn’t get that from your OP at all and I would be really interested for you to expand on this. I think the RWNJ PPs who keep jumping on to wrongly say that your friends are so done with you are aware that they’re about to become PNG to a lot of people and it makes them edgy.

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Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R

I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.

Yes, you sound extremely kind. /s

go ahead and justify the evil and hateful things that party has done, then. Go ahead, I'm waiting

I don't consider anything Republicans have done "evil or hateful." Sorry to disappoint!

DP no surprise here. That's to be expected of Republicans.

Right? I was done with anybody justifying taking babies from their mothers at the border and locking up children...then losing them. That was it for me. That is a crime against humanity, and you mf-ers wrote it off like it was nothing.

Sick, sick, sick

I find it more sick that the children were often not the offspring of those transporting them, and that a lot of the kids were raped/trafficked along the way.

There is some of that, sure, and there are things we can do to safeguard against this that DON’T involve taking a breastfeeding infant from its mother and then basically trafficking it ourselves.

Monsters.

Some of that, sure? There’s a TON of that going on but do focus on falsehoods that you can’t prove.

So, the 4 month old taken from its mother never happened, right?

It’s pointless arguing with you fools - you’re too far gone. Hence why I cut anyone defending this ish from my life.

Enjoy the next Q meeting

Father had a criminal record and could not get asylum. They had no problem leaving three of their other kids in Romania. The child was separated from his mother in Mexico. Unless the father can breast feed, there’s something wrong with the story

Do you not care about little kids getting raped and sold into sex trade?

[Anonymous]

Some Republicans I know are responding to the argument that banning abortion is not something the government should have any business doing. The "Don't Tread on Me" crowd doesn't like this.

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Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R

I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.

Yes, you sound extremely kind. /s

go ahead and justify the evil and hateful things that party has done, then. Go ahead, I'm waiting

I don't consider anything Republicans have done "evil or hateful." Sorry to disappoint!

DP no surprise here. That's to be expected of Republicans.

Right? I was done with anybody justifying taking babies from their mothers at the border and locking up children...then losing them. That was it for me. That is a crime against humanity, and you mf-ers wrote it off like it was nothing.

Sick, sick, sick

I find it more sick that the children were often not the offspring of those transporting them, and that a lot of the kids were raped/trafficked along the way.

There is some of that, sure, and there are things we can do to safeguard against this that DON’T involve taking a breastfeeding infant from its mother and then basically trafficking it ourselves.

Monsters.

Some of that, sure? There’s a TON of that going on but do focus on falsehoods that you can’t prove.

So, the 4 month old taken from its mother never happened, right?

It’s pointless arguing with you fools - you’re too far gone. Hence why I cut anyone defending this ish from my life.

Enjoy the next Q meeting

Father had a criminal record and could not get asylum. They had no problem leaving three of their other kids in Romania. The child was separated from his mother in Mexico. Unless the father can breast feed, there’s something wrong with the story

Do you not care about little kids getting raped and sold into sex trade?

I said I'm done. You're not worth arguing with.

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Anonymous wrote:Some Republicans I know are responding to the argument that banning abortion is not something the government should have any business doing. The "Don't Tread on Me" crowd doesn't like this.

Do… they not understand what they’ve been voting for?