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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.

Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.

And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.

Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.

While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.

Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.

Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.

Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.

You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.

Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses

You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!

Of course not. RBG should have realized her own mortality, understood the ramifications of losing that seat and retired on her own. Obama gently tried to suggest this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/rbg-retirement-obama.html

RBG decided not to retire and Amy Comey Barrett wound up with her seat. People can canonize her all they want but these are facts, as ugly as they are. We are now living with the results.

It’s seriously bizarre that you place all this on a pro choice woman instead of on the six lying extremist judges, the dark money forces who bought them, the knuckle draggers whose votes made them possible and the terrible humans who run the GOP.

For years now ever since ACBs nominations RBG has been denigrated and blamed. You never hear people go on and on about Thomas or Roberts or McConnell etc. Somehow all the blame for everything lays at the feet of RBG. It is sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.

Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.

And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.

Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.

While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.

Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.

Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.

Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.

You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.

Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses

You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!

Of course not. RBG should have realized her own mortality, understood the ramifications of losing that seat and retired on her own. Obama gently tried to suggest this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/rbg-retirement-obama.html

RBG decided not to retire and Amy Comey Barrett wound up with her seat. People can canonize her all they want but these are facts, as ugly as they are. We are now living with the results.

It’s seriously bizarre that you place all this on a pro choice woman instead of on the six lying extremist judges, the dark money forces who bought them, the knuckle draggers whose votes made them possible and the terrible humans who run the GOP.

For years now ever since ACBs nominations RBG has been denigrated and blamed. You never hear people go on and on about Thomas or Roberts or McConnell etc. Somehow all the blame for everything lays at the feet of RBG. It is sick.

It's rooted in misogyny and anti-Semitism, absolutely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin

This can apply to aborted babies as well

A mass of cells is not a baby or a person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.

Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.

And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.

Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.

While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.

Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.

Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.

Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.

You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.

Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses

You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!

Of course not. RBG should have realized her own mortality, understood the ramifications of losing that seat and retired on her own. Obama gently tried to suggest this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/rbg-retirement-obama.html

RBG decided not to retire and Amy Comey Barrett wound up with her seat. People can canonize her all they want but these are facts, as ugly as they are. We are now living with the results.

It’s seriously bizarre that you place all this on a pro choice woman instead of on the six lying extremist judges, the dark money forces who bought them, the knuckle draggers whose votes made them possible and the terrible humans who run the GOP.

For years now ever since ACBs nominations RBG has been denigrated and blamed. You never hear people go on and on about Thomas or Roberts or McConnell etc. Somehow all the blame for everything lays at the feet of RBG. It is sick.

It's rooted in misogyny and anti-Semitism, absolutely.

+2

Although I’d say it’s largely the misogyny. People really, really, really hate women, especially women who don’t work at being man pleasers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No worries there. Your Republican friends came to the same conclusion about you long ago.

But here's the difference. The Rs do it because their tent is small. They do it because they are the snobby, entitled, keep-it-all-for-myself rich (or wanna bes) who threw in with the ignorant, twisted Christian-right trolls who claim to follow Jesus and then trample everything he stood for. The tent was always small and the exclusion was so they could feel superior and/or keep all resources for themselves. NOT because they were morally upright or worthy people. They call themselves the moral majority or the party of family values but (like everything else GOP) they say one thing and do another.

Dems have a big tent. It's part of the problem; trying to be cohesive with so many different people under that tent. Trying to see other perspectives and make room for other opinions.

For many Dems who try to acknowledge different perspectives, their are just too many things with the GOP to ignore. BECAUSE we are trying to live as moral people. BECAUSE we cannot ignore how the GOP consistently works to cause suffering and harm to the majority of people in this country. Women, the poor, immigrants, gay people and the list goes on. All while trumpeting how moral they are and lying through their teeth.

If by 2022 you are still a GOP supporter, you are either willfully stupid, likely for selfish reasons, or just an awful person, also for selfish reasons. So F off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No worries there. Your Republican friends came to the same conclusion about you long ago.

But here's the difference. The Rs do it because their tent is small. They do it because they are the snobby, entitled, keep-it-all-for-myself rich (or wanna bes) who threw in with the ignorant, twisted Christian-right trolls who claim to follow Jesus and then trample everything he stood for. The tent was always small and the exclusion was so they could feel superior and/or keep all resources for themselves. NOT because they were morally upright or worthy people. They call themselves the moral majority or the party of family values but (like everything else GOP) they say one thing and do another.

Dems have a big tent. It's part of the problem; trying to be cohesive with so many different people under that tent. Trying to see other perspectives and make room for other opinions.

For many Dems who try to acknowledge different perspectives, their are just too many things with the GOP to ignore. BECAUSE we are trying to live as moral people. BECAUSE we cannot ignore how the GOP consistently works to cause suffering and harm to the majority of people in this country. Women, the poor, immigrants, gay people and the list goes on. All while trumpeting how moral they are and lying through their teeth.

If by 2022 you are still a GOP supporter, you are either willfully stupid, likely for selfish reasons, or just an awful person, also for selfish reasons. So F off.

ALL OF THIS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin

This can apply to aborted babies as well

A mass of cells is not a baby or a person.

You realize you're a mass of cells, even at your age?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin

This can apply to aborted babies as well

A mass of cells is not a baby or a person.

You realize you're a mass of cells, even at your age?

lol true!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No worries there. Your Republican friends came to the same conclusion about you long ago.

But here's the difference. The Rs do it because their tent is small. They do it because they are the snobby, entitled, keep-it-all-for-myself rich (or wanna bes) who threw in with the ignorant, twisted Christian-right trolls who claim to follow Jesus and then trample everything he stood for. The tent was always small and the exclusion was so they could feel superior and/or keep all resources for themselves. NOT because they were morally upright or worthy people. They call themselves the moral majority or the party of family values but (like everything else GOP) they say one thing and do another.

Dems have a big tent. It's part of the problem; trying to be cohesive with so many different people under that tent. Trying to see other perspectives and make room for other opinions.

For many Dems who try to acknowledge different perspectives, their are just too many things with the GOP to ignore. BECAUSE we are trying to live as moral people. BECAUSE we cannot ignore how the GOP consistently works to cause suffering and harm to the majority of people in this country. Women, the poor, immigrants, gay people and the list goes on. All while trumpeting how moral they are and lying through their teeth.

If by 2022 you are still a GOP supporter, you are either willfully stupid, likely for selfish reasons, or just an awful person, also for selfish reasons. So F off.

I don't think anyone with a brain seriously believes that 80+ million voters = small tent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No worries there. Your Republican friends came to the same conclusion about you long ago.

But here's the difference. The Rs do it because their tent is small. They do it because they are the snobby, entitled, keep-it-all-for-myself rich (or wanna bes) who threw in with the ignorant, twisted Christian-right trolls who claim to follow Jesus and then trample everything he stood for. The tent was always small and the exclusion was so they could feel superior and/or keep all resources for themselves. NOT because they were morally upright or worthy people. They call themselves the moral majority or the party of family values but (like everything else GOP) they say one thing and do another.

Dems have a big tent. It's part of the problem; trying to be cohesive with so many different people under that tent. Trying to see other perspectives and make room for other opinions.

For many Dems who try to acknowledge different perspectives, their are just too many things with the GOP to ignore. BECAUSE we are trying to live as moral people. BECAUSE we cannot ignore how the GOP consistently works to cause suffering and harm to the majority of people in this country. Women, the poor, immigrants, gay people and the list goes on. All while trumpeting how moral they are and lying through their teeth.

If by 2022 you are still a GOP supporter, you are either willfully stupid, likely for selfish reasons, or just an awful person, also for selfish reasons. So F off.

ALL OF THIS

+2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin

This can apply to aborted babies as well

A mass of cells is not a baby or a person.

You realize you're a mass of cells, even at your age?

lol true!

Except that my clump of cells can breathe oxygen from the air.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No worries there. Your Republican friends came to the same conclusion about you long ago.

But here's the difference. The Rs do it because their tent is small. They do it because they are the snobby, entitled, keep-it-all-for-myself rich (or wanna bes) who threw in with the ignorant, twisted Christian-right trolls who claim to follow Jesus and then trample everything he stood for. The tent was always small and the exclusion was so they could feel superior and/or keep all resources for themselves. NOT because they were morally upright or worthy people. They call themselves the moral majority or the party of family values but (like everything else GOP) they say one thing and do another.

Dems have a big tent. It's part of the problem; trying to be cohesive with so many different people under that tent. Trying to see other perspectives and make room for other opinions.

For many Dems who try to acknowledge different perspectives, their are just too many things with the GOP to ignore. BECAUSE we are trying to live as moral people. BECAUSE we cannot ignore how the GOP consistently works to cause suffering and harm to the majority of people in this country. Women, the poor, immigrants, gay people and the list goes on. All while trumpeting how moral they are and lying through their teeth.

If by 2022 you are still a GOP supporter, you are either willfully stupid, likely for selfish reasons, or just an awful person, also for selfish reasons. So F off.

I don't think anyone with a brain seriously believes that 80+ million voters = small tent.

Oh come on! There are MANY GOP voters who vote for GOP politicians, because the are suckers for the lies but all the while not realizing they are not under the tent. The willful ignorance is astounding. They throw themselves under the bus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.

Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.

And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.

Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.

While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.

Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.

Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.

Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.

You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.

Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses

You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!

Of course not. RBG should have realized her own mortality, understood the ramifications of losing that seat and retired on her own. Obama gently tried to suggest this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/rbg-retirement-obama.html

RBG decided not to retire and Amy Comey Barrett wound up with her seat. People can canonize her all they want but these are facts, as ugly as they are. We are now living with the results.

It’s seriously bizarre that you place all this on a pro choice woman instead of on the six lying extremist judges, the dark money forces who bought them, the knuckle draggers whose votes made them possible and the terrible humans who run the GOP.

It’s seriously bizarre that you think right-wing funders and the politicians they pay for, most of whom expressly ran for every election cycle with Roe in their targets, would do something other than what they promised to do. I also was unaware that septuagenarians who’d already survived cancer twice to hold onto a seat they’d occupied for 20 years were immortal and/or unaware of the confirmation process any President faced.

[Anonymous]

it wasn't until Obama's last year when they held up Garland that most people realized what a reckless game those a$$holes were playing

There was no chance to retire at that point

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.

Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.

And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.

Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.

While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.

Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.

I appreciate that you sound like a kind person, but I’m making the “oh honey” face at you right now.

Roberts wanted it this way. It was six activist judges, bought for by dark money that Roberts okayed the continued spending of.

Republicans kept voting for this.

I think RBG was a bit stupid in not retiring, but what if she felt great up until Scalia died and then realized she couldn’t do anything but white knuckle it through the Trumpenvolk years? Republicans voted for Trump despite the truth about him being public.

I too am a lifelong Democrat, a Wellstone liberal FWIW. I’m a SAHM. I’m not some flaming liberal. But I am sick of trying to convince people that women are people, too. Having to cajole people to understand that women deserve bodily autonomy and the same rights that men are granted isn’t a fight I want to keep having with people who support the GOP no matter what they do.

If you are a Wellstone liberal, you are basically a flaming liberal