The peer group is extremely important for undergraduate education. Dartmouth's Ivy League peer group will be way superior to GT's peer group. It's a fact, not an assertion. Besides, who cares about a bachelor's in aerospace engineering. It will be the PhD that counts not a generic bachelor's degree where you take a lot of non-specialized classes and call it aerospace engineering (ie work at airports servicing airplanes) |
Unfortunately for the citizens of deep blue Nashville laws are made by the state government which is pretty red. |
Plus at Darty your DD's will have had to learn about having to deal with sexual harassment from profs, which is a life skill. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/06/us/dartmouth-sexual-abuse-settlement.html |
| Some of you are completely insane. |
| Emory, Washington U, Vandy, Rice and ND will fall. |
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There are some outraged posters here who are weirdly invested in cheerleading the Amtrak corridor schools. ie, "the NE schools."
To wit: let's accept, for the point of discussion, that every 18 yo high stats female will definitely eschew the T20 schools in NoAbortion states going forward (so, WashU, Vandy, Rice, maybe Duke? Notre Dame ... and watch out for Penn and Emory, in purple states). Fine. Why does it follow that schools "in the NE" will be the ones who surge ahead? Nobody has mentioned USC, or Berkeley, etc. Your bias is showing |
Your understanding of the word 'fact' is flawed. Dartmouth's median SAT score is in the 99th percentile. Georgia Tech's is in the 97th percentile. It's seriously distorted to think that's 'way superior'. |
Berkeley was mentioned few times as likely to rise. |
A "basic engineering sciences" degree versus specialized focus in the degree you actually desire is "notches above"? That is the issue---way too many people are tied up with "it's an Ivy so it's the best". Research opportunities for undergrads at a school without much focus cannot be better, the education cannot be better. Just like my kid wants an engineering that is not at all schools (IE, it's not MechE, EE, CS, CE, Civil E, BioEng/Biomedical) so they didn't apply to schools that don't have what they want (Chem Eng)---sure they could do BME as undergrad but it's not exactly what they want and it's much much better to get a Chem Eng and then do a BME minor or focus on that area, rather than getting a BME where you really need a Masters to go anywhere. Why would anyone go somewhere that doesn't actually have their major (and general eng is exactly that---unless you want Harvey Mudd--at that level their "general eng" is good, but they know that most go onto grad work ) |
| I am confident we'll see a slow and steady decline in private schools located in red states. I will personally ensure those states do not see the tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of tuition dollars from my family ever again. I know many likeminded parents in my circle as well. |
So many people are distorted by the Rankings system. And they are a bit uninformed as there are "real jobs" in aerospace engineering for just a bachelor degree. Tons of them. But yes, go get a general engineering sciences instead of aerospace or even MechE and attempt to use your Dartmouth connections and pride yourself on "smart cohorts from university". When you finally land a job (not likely to be a real aerospace job without any focus as an undergrad), you will find yourself working with many smart engineers from many schools who are just as driven and intelligent as you, except they will have a degree that is focused and targeted in the area of interests, as well as a great general engineering background, as that's at the core of most T100 engineering schools (or ABET accredited schools). |
You're being dramatic. Duke has been prestigious for forever and frankly Duke, Emory, Vandy, WashU have so much money that they can mitigate the laws of their states. For instance Emory will still perform abortions as the county they are in will not prosecute such things. |
Definitely overblown and overdramatic. The laws of the state in which my future law school would be was NEVEr a consideration and the same will be true of undergrad. Even if you picked Texas, there are still at least two contiguous states that so far aren't trigger. If my DD needed an abortion she knows to come to me and frankly, i'm taking her to my OB where I know she will be safe. For those who won't tell their parents or can't afford to drive, Planned Parenthood will drive. This is not the big issue that DCUMers want to make it out to be |
You're being completely and willfully oblivious if you don't think families and students themselves won't be taking these trends into account. I know more students than parents who have completely ruled out schools in conservative states, and I can only imagine that this latest ruling has only cemented those opinions further. |
It may not be "the big issue" for DCUMers who can afford to travel. Many of us (myself included) are concerned for the women in those states that cannot afford to travel to get the healthcare they need and deserve; for the women who need an emergency procedure to save their lives that is now not allowed where they live. And yes, if it's an emergency for our own kids, most of us DCUMers cannot afford to transport our kids to another state once the emergency has occurred. |